pigeonphill 69 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 (edited) Is that both castration and vascicimised? Yes Tomos that is for both castration and vasectomy.......Ive never had a hob vasectomised i always get castration.....keeps the smell down and i find (personal opinion) that they are less aggressive. its alot easier for castration as they take the nuts away but for a vasectomy they have to find the small tubes that lead to the balls which is not easy and a lot of vets wont or cant do this and the ones that do take it on ,dont always get it right Edited January 4, 2013 by pigeonphill Quote Link to post
stinkers 102 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 Is that both castration and vascicimised? Yes Tomos that is for both castration and vasectomy.......Ive never had a hob vasectomised i always get castration.....keeps the smell down and i find (personal opinion) that they are less aggressive. its alot easier for castration as they take the nuts away but for a vasectomy they have to find the small tubes that lead to the balls which is not easy and a lot of vets wont or cant do this and the ones that do take it on ,dont always get it right and i know been there done it True .....personally i fnd castration more beneficial ....plus my jills always get done too so no need for a Vasectomised hob. I dont see the point unless you wish to breed a jill later on that she should have to ragged by a hob unnecessarily......just my opinion though Quote Link to post
pigeonphill 69 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 Is that both castration and vascicimised? Yes Tomos that is for both castration and vasectomy.......Ive never had a hob vasectomised i always get castration.....keeps the smell down and i find (personal opinion) that they are less aggressive. its alot easier for castration as they take the nuts away but for a vasectomy they have to find the small tubes that lead to the balls which is not easy and a lot of vets wont or cant do this and the ones that do take it on ,don't always get it right and i know been there done it True .....personally i find castration more beneficial ....plus my jill's always get done too so no need for a Vasectomised hob. I don't see the point unless you wish to breed a jill later on that she should have to ragged by a hob unnecessarily......just my opinion though i don't know how much you pay for a jill to be done but if you keep a few it could come to a fair few £ and like you say it still gives you the option to breed if they prove to be a good worker and mating is a natural thing but horses for courses if it works for you and you can afford it there's nothing wrong in having them done and its nice to be talking about a topic with out it getting spoilt regards phill Quote Link to post
The one 8,479 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 You sure he's trying to mate it ?.it's early for there nuts to have dropped sound like a dominance issue just now . Quote Link to post
pigeonphill 69 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 You sure he's trying to mate it ?.it's early for there nuts to have dropped sound like a dominance issue just now . if its not a mating thing it soon will be, the seasons are all going to pot the last few years look how early some jills come into season now and the hobs hormones are still there just before there balls drop Quote Link to post
stinkers 102 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 Is that both castration and vascicimised? Yes Tomos that is for both castration and vasectomy.......Ive never had a hob vasectomised i always get castration.....keeps the smell down and i find (personal opinion) that they are less aggressive. its alot easier for castration as they take the nuts away but for a vasectomy they have to find the small tubes that lead to the balls which is not easy and a lot of vets wont or cant do this and the ones that do take it on ,don't always get it right and i know been there done it True .....personally i find castration more beneficial ....plus my jill's always get done too so no need for a Vasectomised hob. I don't see the point unless you wish to breed a jill later on that she should have to ragged by a hob unnecessarily......just my opinion though i don't know how much you pay for a jill to be done but if you keep a few it could come to a fair few £ and like you say it still gives you the option to breed if they prove to be a good worker and mating is a natural thing but horses for courses if it works for you and you can afford it there's nothing wrong in having them done and its nice to be talking about a topic with out it getting spoilt regards phill Agreed it can be expensive but i only keep 2 stinkers at a time.....i do have lodgers occassionally,,,,,, very occassionally. I wouldnt be breeding any of my stinkers and never have, if i had my own property and the room to do it then i may have done it but its not for me. Im happy with a couple to keep me out in the fields and doing a bit of hunting and a shed to go to for some sanity . Quote Link to post
ferretsuk 5 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 i got mine done at 8 months Quote Link to post
Ferret mad Dave 65 Posted January 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 He seems too try it with the others but they boss him its defo not fighting they have been together for ages you can just feel his balls like but he is carrying I little bit a weight Quote Link to post
stinkers 102 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 You sure he's trying to mate it ?.it's early for there nuts to have dropped sound like a dominance issue just now . It is more than likely dominance as i said first off......but if its like that now whats he gonna be like when he's all testosteroned up and wanting to rag for real.......the other hob wil probably end up seriously hurt or even worse. Would be gutted if mine killed its housemate ......if it can be prevented then it should be. Quote Link to post
joe14 98 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 Vasectomy wont help, they will still be entire and in season and hormones all over. You need to get them both castrated, takes a few weeks after for their hormones to calm. Quote Link to post
stinkers 102 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 Dont know if any other lads have noticed the difference in a hobs coat when its been castrated to a vasectomised hob but ithink there coats are a lot healhier looking and they certainly smell a lot better. Used to take one of my hobs around in my poachers pouch when i was younger ....he was castrated........never even knew he was there, and nor did the landlord of my local :boogy: . Got another one who was real friendly took him to the pub befre he got castrated and the woman on the next table caught a whiff of him .........made my excuses and left Quote Link to post
Ferret mad Dave 65 Posted January 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 Must say tho i have noticed the smell is getting stronger not a lot like just a bit they are all going too get done too some degree Quote Link to post
ferret100 47 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 Sounds like the hormones are kicking in alright, ferts can begin to come into season dec/jan just because they are awkward beggars. They are only going to get worse unfortunately, soon they'll be knocking seven bells out of each other too. Really only 2 options, one is castration, the other is the implant. Vets are reluctant to operate on undescended testis due to risk of damage to the supplying blood vessels, nerves and otential damage to itnernal organs, BUT it can be done. The implant is a hormone regulator which is applied in the same manner and location as a microchip. Many vets prefer to give ferts a whiff of gas for this for 2 reasons, firstly the implant needle is significantly bigger than a microchip needle and secondly, the implant is expensive so if a fert is compus mentus, acts the maggot and the implant isn't inserted properly it costs a lot to replace it. Unless you have the capacity to separate the youngsters from your other ferts and each other until their balls drop, give a good exotics vet a call and see what can be done. It will save you and your ferts a lot of hassle. Atb. Quote Link to post
dave1600d 35 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 get em both castrated asap mate,,better all round,,mine are both castrated,,,,,,, my jills are all spayed as well,,,,,,,best all round for all of em,,,get em done mate or the one being picked on may be dead one day coz the others killed it,,,at least seperate them..ATB..dave Quote Link to post
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