paulus 26 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 Paulus, do you think that that really is the fundamental reason for all this? I used to but not so sure now. All of these hydrocarbon reservoirs and mineral formations are only hypotheses at this time I'm led to believe, it's suspected that there could be vast amounts but not yet proven so I'm told. In my opinion, it's got little to do with money, the Argies genuinely believe the Islands are theirs and we stole them off of them. Argy politicians see It as their 'go to' when they need to drum up national moral. For us, it's a matter of principle, the Islanders are British by birth and choice and have been for hundreds of years, as such we should defend and support them as we would any other of our countrymen. To let the Argies have the islands would open the door for others to lay claim to our other overseas territories. When we are able to mine/drill the Antarctic then I'm sure our motives will be different but currently I don't think that oil and minerals are our main concern with the Falklands. Maybe I'm giving our politicians too much credit? lol i belive theres 2 stories to this the one ive mentioned already and the other one is the islanders right to make there own decision as to who they ulimatly deceide to pledge there allegiance to, one thing the islanders do realise is that without an allegiance to someone there infastructure would calapse quickly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 Sure there's a global agreement not to exploit any Antarctic resources if there's any there.. Yep, in effect until 2048.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocol_on_Environmental_Protection_to_the_Antarctic_Treaty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 Sure there's a global agreement not to exploit any Antarctic resources if there's any there.. Yep, in effect until 2048.. http://en.wikipedia....ntarctic_Treaty the Antarctic Treaty does not address the regulation of mineral resource activities here: http://www.antarctica.ac.uk/about_antarctica/geopolitical/environmental_issues/mining.php Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 Sure there's a global agreement not to exploit any Antarctic resources if there's any there.. Yep, in effect until 2048.. http://en.wikipedia....ntarctic_Treaty the Antarctic Treaty does not address the regulation of mineral resource activities here: http://www.antarctica.ac.uk/about_antarctica/geopolitical/environmental_issues/mining.php did you read my link mate, I didn't link to the Antarctic Treaty! From the bottom of your link which is regarding the treaty I linked too.. The Environmental Protocol now bans all mineral resource activities in Antarctica (other than scientific research). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 Sure there's a global agreement not to exploit any Antarctic resources if there's any there.. Yep, in effect until 2048.. http://en.wikipedia....ntarctic_Treaty the Antarctic Treaty does not address the regulation of mineral resource activities here: http://www.antarctic...sues/mining.php did you read my link mate, I didn't link to the Antarctic Treaty! From the bottom of your link which is regarding the treaty I linked too.. The Environmental Protocol now bans all mineral resource activities in Antarctica (other than scientific research). and what do you think scientific research covers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 Sure there's a global agreement not to exploit any Antarctic resources if there's any there.. Yep, in effect until 2048.. http://en.wikipedia....ntarctic_Treaty the Antarctic Treaty does not address the regulation of mineral resource activities here: http://www.antarctic...sues/mining.php did you read my link mate, I didn't link to the Antarctic Treaty! From the bottom of your link which is regarding the treaty I linked too.. The Environmental Protocol now bans all mineral resource activities in Antarctica (other than scientific research). and what do you think scientific research covers Oi, don't you me, you saw 'tarctic Treaty' on the end of that shortened link i posted and assumed it linked the Antarctic treaty, didn't ya? I'm Welsh mate, were the kings of the sidestep and I can see an attempted one a mile off! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,784 Posted January 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 (edited) I think Paulus still has a point though Malt, despite current treaties and legislation eventually other resources are gonna grow very thin (if you follow the text book science of hydrocarbon generation anyway). If we as a species don't develop and embrace new technologies and are still dependant on these resources then I can quite easily imagine further treaties being 're-jigged' to allow commercial exploitation of any potential Antarctic hydrocarbon and mineral reserves. This of course would make the Falklands strategically/logistically very valuable. I still don't think it is a large reason for a sovereignty claim though, from either side. Edited January 4, 2013 by Born Hunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 Sure there's a global agreement not to exploit any Antarctic resources if there's any there.. Yep, in effect until 2048.. http://en.wikipedia....ntarctic_Treaty the Antarctic Treaty does not address the regulation of mineral resource activities here: http://www.antarctic...sues/mining.php did you read my link mate, I didn't link to the Antarctic Treaty! From the bottom of your link which is regarding the treaty I linked too.. The Environmental Protocol now bans all mineral resource activities in Antarctica (other than scientific research). and what do you think scientific research covers Oi, don't you me, you saw 'tarctic Treaty' on the end of that shortened link i posted and assumed it linked the Antarctic treaty, didn't ya? I'm Welsh mate, were the kings of the sidestep and I can see an attempted one a mile off! :laugh: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forest of dean redneck 11,679 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 Wait til they find oil in Argentina or Britain wants a slice of the corned beef trade, We invade them,her arse would screw up! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnGalway 1,043 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 I'm just biding my time until granite becomes the new oil. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Swampy 147 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 (edited) So my shares in the Falkland Island Oil and Gas Co are worthless then? Shit I'd better sell them! Which could potentially earn me about............£60,169.75p According to the missus who is tracking it all I think I'll hang on thanks. Its there, it just needs to be found in a viable place. If anyone had bought shares in Rock hopper early doors you could have made a pretty penny too! Kerching ning rgds Swampy Edited January 4, 2013 by Swampy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,784 Posted January 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 To my knowledge though it's not been proven to be there yet, or at least not in the quantities being thrown about. The geologists say there could be X recoverable barrels there but geologists are often wrong. Is it Rock hopper that have managed to find a commercially viable reservoir? I hope there are Billions of barrels to be recovered but there are no garuntees as of yet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Swampy 147 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 To my knowledge though it's not been proven to be there yet, or at least not in the quantities being thrown about. The geologists say there could be X recoverable barrels there but geologists are often wrong. Is it Rock hopper that have managed to find a commercially viable reservoir? I hope there are Billions of barrels to be recovered but there are no garuntees as of yet? Both companies have found oil but only the small pockets at very great depths.Hence why shares are looking good. Although I beleieve they only have licenses for a couple of years. I'm sure they will be renewed but as soon as they hit a viable source I can retire.......Again!..... There is also a Russian outfit down there, who I suspect are hand in hand with BP who are bankrolling much of the exploration. I was there in 82, ironic really! Rgds Swampy cashing in Ning Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,784 Posted January 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 (edited) You'll be buying your own Island if they find as much as some are quoting! All the best with that, I mean that. Were you with the task force in 82 if you don't mind me asking? Edited January 4, 2013 by Born Hunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Swampy 147 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 You'll be buying your own Island if they find as much as some are quoting! All the best with that, I mean that. Were you with the task force in 82 if you don't mind me asking? No I was MN. On the MV Singularity. Took a couple of Chinooks and a Sea king down there along with containers full of lion bars, bounty and twix. Missed the action but still got my war bonus! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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