Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 true dog men search for gameness which is what i'd want in my bullgreyhound if i was running one would you agree Why would you need "gameness" in a lurcher????? Theres NO quarry in this country that requires a lurcher to be game !!! why would you need a lurcher to be game? are we talking bullgreyhounds or lurchers? if a bull greyhound is not game what use is it? i'm confused. A bull x greyhound IS a lurcher and I'll ask you again WHY does a lurcher need to be game? They dont have to be cuz there isnt any such thing but it does help if they are rough if you are running game that can hurt em. That being said you wont find many rough ones that aint got some bulldog in em. I have never seen a rought terrier type dog in my life and I'm firmly convinced that there is no such thing and I dont believe any of the bullshit folks write on here bout there being rough terriers. It would prolly take me less than a full day to prove them wrong. Quote Link to post
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 true dog men search for gameness which is what i'd want in my bullgreyhound if i was running one would you agree Why would you need "gameness" in a lurcher????? Theres NO quarry in this country that requires a lurcher to be game !!! why would you need a lurcher to be game? are we talking bullgreyhounds or lurchers? if a bull greyhound is not game what use is it? i'm confused. A bull x greyhound IS a lurcher and I'll ask you again WHY does a lurcher need to be game? if its not game will not have the pray drive to hunt also squirrells do bite and you can hunt those within the law of hunting with dogs Squirrels are illegal to hunt with dogs and prey drive and gameness are NOT the same. So what your saying is only bull x's are prey driven then? Quote Link to post
Crackers 807 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 I know a lad in stoke called paul williams said if you can find a rabbit in stoke your bloody lucky hahaha To be fair they are thin on the ground here. We had 4 the other night which is about as good as it gets. you ain't going the right place then, there's plenty up there I run my dogs with lads from stoke we get plenty Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 I know a lad in stoke called paul williams said if you can find a rabbit in stoke your bloody lucky hahaha To be fair they are thin on the ground here. We had 4 the other night which is about as good as it gets. you ain't going the right place then, there's plenty up there I run my dogs with lads from stoke we get plenty Actually in stoke itself? What do you class as plenty? I cover Stoke from one end to the other on a weekly basis and never see many. Gaz Quote Link to post
Crackers 807 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 I know a lad in stoke called paul williams said if you can find a rabbit in stoke your bloody lucky hahaha To be fair they are thin on the ground here. We had 4 the other night which is about as good as it gets. you ain't going the right place then, there's plenty up there I run my dogs with lads from stoke we get plenty Actually in stoke itself? What do you class as plenty? I cover Stoke from one end to the other on a weekly basis and never see many. Gaz enough to keep the dogs fit I know a few dog lads round stoke Quote Link to post
rob190364 2,594 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 true dog men search for gameness which is what i'd want in my bullgreyhound if i was running one would you agree Why would you need "gameness" in a lurcher????? Theres NO quarry in this country that requires a lurcher to be game !!! why would you need a lurcher to be game? are we talking bullgreyhounds or lurchers? if a bull greyhound is not game what use is it? i'm confused. A bull x greyhound IS a lurcher and I'll ask you again WHY does a lurcher need to be game? if its not game will not have the pray drive to hunt also squirrells do bite and you can hunt those within the law of hunting with dogs Squirrels are illegal to hunt with dogs and prey drive and gameness are NOT the same. So what your saying is only bull x's are prey driven then? Johnny, he's right!! you need a bull cross of at least 90lbs to (illegally) hunt squirrels....and they need to be 'game' enough to not thrown the towel in when the going gets tough this place!!!!! or ...you decide! Quote Link to post
Curtis101 1 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 true dog men search for gameness which is what i'd want in my bullgreyhound if i was running one would you agree Why would you need "gameness" in a lurcher????? Theres NO quarry in this country that requires a lurcher to be game !!! why would you need a lurcher to be game? are we talking bullgreyhounds or lurchers? if a bull greyhound is not game what use is it? i'm confused. A bull x greyhound IS a lurcher and I'll ask you again WHY does a lurcher need to be game? if its not game will not have the pray drive to hunt also squirrells do bite and you can hunt those within the law of hunting with dogs Squirrels are illegal to hunt with dogs and prey drive and gameness are NOT the same. So what your saying is only bull x's are prey driven then? Johnny, he's right!! you need a bull cross of at least 90lbs to (illegally) hunt squirrels....and they need to be 'game' enough to not thrown the towel in when the going gets tough this place!!!!! or ...you decide! yes i no a bull greyhound is a lurcher! you said why does a lurcher need to be game well in my opinion a bull greyhound needs to be game, you cant be serious and say the bullgreyhound does not need to be game! when you said bull greyhound and lurcher in the same sence as you did clearly say it confused me into thinking you ment another type of lurcher not includeing the bull. for other various game i.e rabbits hare etc then no i wouldnt say they need to be to game as rabbits dont really bite back, but yes rageing squirrels do so bullgreys need to be game! DEERR Quote Link to post
doga 50 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 there putting the apbt over the greyhound for every attribute wind/stamina/gameness/mouth/heart/determanation/athleticism you name it the pitbull terrier brings every attribute to the bullgreyhound if you have a real bullgreyhound there is no need for the bedlington terrier or any other dog to be in there for certain quary. curtis i got to add this to your argument but not all pits are suitable for lurcher production,i would also like to ask you what is the difference between a apbt and a genuine working stafford ie what other breeds are used in there make up to make them different,i can add this i know the difference in the majority of the two breeds when it comes to structure or build but that is the majority not all. Hi thanks for your reply. Yes i see your point, they are several breeds claiming to be pit bulls. Staffordshire Terriers, American Staffordshire Terriers, American Pit Bull terriers, American Bulldogs, Staffordshire Terriers are usually very compact dogs. Short and stocky and not tall. am staffs usually bigger and heavy'r dogs stocky and have large heads. american pitbull terriers dont usually get above 70 lbs for an expection mayday one of the most prolific pitbull terriers in history was 75lbs chainweight and are tall, lanky, proportioned dogs. If you see or hear of one of those 110 lb., big headed, stocky giant pit bulls it is not a full blooded APBT. ammstaffs and staffs are bred for looks and not for work the pitbull terrier the true game pitbull terrier will always be for working purposes. dogfighters will always use the best which has been found is history since the 1900's the pitbull terrier so the answer to your question is a staff will never be in the same league as a pitbull terrier. well in that case then curtis refer to history a bit more freind because im sure youle find that staffords have held there own with apbt,after all said and done the yank stuff has origins in uk they were its base blood,not all working strains of staff are stuffy in build there are a few that more resemble pits ie alot of irish gear does,there are genuine stafford strains around that are bred as game as any pit strains absolute fact not short and stiff but some getting on for fifty lb and 21",ive seen them on both sides curtis. 1 Quote Link to post
Curtis101 1 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 (edited) there putting the apbt over the greyhound for every attribute wind/stamina/gameness/mouth/heart/determanation/athleticism you name it the pitbull terrier brings every attribute to the bullgreyhound if you have a real bullgreyhound there is no need for the bedlington terrier or any other dog to be in there for certain quary. curtis i got to add this to your argument but not all pits are suitable for lurcher production,i would also like to ask you what is the difference between a apbt and a genuine working stafford ie what other breeds are used in there make up to make them different,i can add this i know the difference in the majority of the two breeds when it comes to structure or build but that is the majority not all. Hi thanks for your reply. Yes i see your point, they are several breeds claiming to be pit bulls. Staffordshire Terriers, American Staffordshire Terriers, American Pit Bull terriers, American Bulldogs, Staffordshire Terriers are usually very compact dogs. Short and stocky and not tall. am staffs usually bigger and heavy'r dogs stocky and have large heads. american pitbull terriers dont usually get above 70 lbs for an expection mayday one of the most prolific pitbull terriers in history was 75lbs chainweight and are tall, lanky, proportioned dogs. If you see or hear of one of those 110 lb., big headed, stocky giant pit bulls it is not a full blooded APBT. ammstaffs and staffs are bred for looks and not for work the pitbull terrier the true game pitbull terrier will always be for working purposes. dogfighters will always use the best which has been found is history since the 1900's the pitbull terrier so the answer to your question is a staff will never be in the same league as a pitbull terrier. well in that case then curtis refer to history a bit more freind because im sure youle find that staffords have held there own with apbt,after all said and done the yank stuff has origins in uk they were its base blood,not all working strains of staff are stuffy in build there are a few that more resemble pits ie alot of irish gear does,there are genuine stafford strains around that are bred as game as any pit strains absolute fact not short and stiff but some getting on for fifty lb and 21",ive seen them on both sides curtis. I don't know how to explain it any better than this... all modern SBT trace back to the show dogs...nobody has kept a strain just for working ...all trace back to the early show dogs of the 1930...no one kennel in uk has bred the SBT for gameness since after the beginning of showing of SBT...no line has been kept for gameness from the show dogs of the 1930 till now...there is no continuous game tested line from the early dog to now...if you don't grasp what Im saying , I can't explain any better.... if you think there is a continuous line I would love to see it dont get me wrong there has been but not now i'm affraid Edited January 4, 2013 by Curtis101 Quote Link to post
terrierxhound 26 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 there putting the apbt over the greyhound for every attribute wind/stamina/gameness/mouth/heart/determanation/athleticism you name it the pitbull terrier brings every attribute to the bullgreyhound if you have a real bullgreyhound there is no need for the bedlington terrier or any other dog to be in there for certain quary. curtis i got to add this to your argument but not all pits are suitable for lurcher production,i would also like to ask you what is the difference between a apbt and a genuine working stafford ie what other breeds are used in there make up to make them different,i can add this i know the difference in the majority of the two breeds when it comes to structure or build but that is the majority not all. Hi thanks for your reply. Yes i see your point, they are several breeds claiming to be pit bulls. Staffordshire Terriers, American Staffordshire Terriers, American Pit Bull terriers, American Bulldogs, Staffordshire Terriers are usually very compact dogs. Short and stocky and not tall. am staffs usually bigger and heavy'r dogs stocky and have large heads. american pitbull terriers dont usually get above 70 lbs for an expection mayday one of the most prolific pitbull terriers in history was 75lbs chainweight and are tall, lanky, proportioned dogs. If you see or hear of one of those 110 lb., big headed, stocky giant pit bulls it is not a full blooded APBT. ammstaffs and staffs are bred for looks and not for work the pitbull terrier the true game pitbull terrier will always be for working purposes. dogfighters will always use the best which has been found is history since the 1900's the pitbull terrier so the answer to your question is a staff will never be in the same league as a pitbull terrier. well in that case then curtis refer to history a bit more freind because im sure youle find that staffords have held there own with apbt,after all said and done the yank stuff has origins in uk they were its base blood,not all working strains of staff are stuffy in build there are a few that more resemble pits ie alot of irish gear does,there are genuine stafford strains around that are bred as game as any pit strains absolute fact not short and stiff but some getting on for fifty lb and 21",ive seen them on both sides curtis. i agree doga iv always kept a staff around but an irish bred one and all were around 20 inches high and all of them could work i think curtis needs to take his head out of the books his just seeing pics of little fat show bred stafs in them by the sounds of it curtis u realy like apbt,s next u will tell us they can make tea they can do everything else according to u Quote Link to post
Curtis101 1 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 and the irish got rid of the staffs because they could not compete against the apbt. Quote Link to post
Curtis101 1 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 show me 1 game staff and you will change my mind Quote Link to post
Curtis101 1 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 there putting the apbt over the greyhound for every attribute wind/stamina/gameness/mouth/heart/determanation/athleticism you name it the pitbull terrier brings every attribute to the bullgreyhound if you have a real bullgreyhound there is no need for the bedlington terrier or any other dog to be in there for certain quary. curtis i got to add this to your argument but not all pits are suitable for lurcher production,i would also like to ask you what is the difference between a apbt and a genuine working stafford ie what other breeds are used in there make up to make them different,i can add this i know the difference in the majority of the two breeds when it comes to structure or build but that is the majority not all. Hi thanks for your reply. Yes i see your point, they are several breeds claiming to be pit bulls. Staffordshire Terriers, American Staffordshire Terriers, American Pit Bull terriers, American Bulldogs, Staffordshire Terriers are usually very compact dogs. Short and stocky and not tall. am staffs usually bigger and heavy'r dogs stocky and have large heads. american pitbull terriers dont usually get above 70 lbs for an expection mayday one of the most prolific pitbull terriers in history was 75lbs chainweight and are tall, lanky, proportioned dogs. If you see or hear of one of those 110 lb., big headed, stocky giant pit bulls it is not a full blooded APBT. ammstaffs and staffs are bred for looks and not for work the pitbull terrier the true game pitbull terrier will always be for working purposes. dogfighters will always use the best which has been found is history since the 1900's the pitbull terrier so the answer to your question is a staff will never be in the same league as a pitbull terrier. well in that case then curtis refer to history a bit more freind because im sure youle find that staffords have held there own with apbt,after all said and done the yank stuff has origins in uk they were its base blood,not all working strains of staff are stuffy in build there are a few that more resemble pits ie alot of irish gear does,there are genuine stafford strains around that are bred as game as any pit strains absolute fact not short and stiff but some getting on for fifty lb and 21",ive seen them on both sides curtis. i agree doga iv always kept a staff around but an irish bred one and all were around 20 inches high and all of them could work i think curtis needs to take his head out of the books his just seeing pics of little fat show bred stafs in them by the sounds of it curtis u realy like apbt,s next u will tell us they can make tea they can do everything else according to u What the irish staff and staff are diffrent strains? you should not comment you no very little about sbt or apbt's. Quote Link to post
hunting1234 122 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 and the irish got rid of the staffs because they could not compete against the apbt. I have to disagree with you on that my friend Quote Link to post
Curtis101 1 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 and the irish got rid of the staffs because they could not compete against the apbt. I have to disagree with you on that my friend why do you disagree put your point across.. i'm happy to hear everyones FACTS Quote Link to post
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