deep earths

[gonetoearth 5,144]

KNOWING WHEN TO REST A TERRIER IS THE ACT OF A TERRIER MAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THERE ARE TERRIER MEN AND THEN THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO OWN TERRIERS !!!!!!!!!!

[foxfan 479]

I am going to stick my neck out here and will probably get shot down in flames but can only say it as ive seen it over the years .....imo I honestly dont think there is that much differance in each terriers scenting capabilities not when to ground anyway ...obviously some terriers have better noses than others but I think that all hunting types of dogs have good scent and in the confines of an earth even in big spots I think that the quarry is not found mainly by scent but a mixture of a lot of things .....I f another dog has been entered the earth before and lifted then another terrier has been entered then I think that would hamper a terrier finding as the scent would be all over the place .....you hear this all the time that to be a good finder they must have a good nose but I dont think there can be that much of a differance in each terriers smelling capabilities ....I may be wrong but food for thought

 

OOh, cant agree there sorry, how would you explain the following : 3 terriers running loose along a track, one terrier stops puts it's nose in the air, goes down a bank swims a storm drain climbs the oposite bank crosses a track, drops in and bolts two foxes one after the other.

Now the other two terriers never had a clue there was anything there. Can only be difference in scenting ability surely ?

[BIG G wheton machine 1,594]

has he been carrying an injury you have missed?maybe why he dont face quarry and says nobody home?been digging to a dog the last few weeks and he has been spot on-tried him boxing day and he bolted 2 from a big old place,then moved on-when he settled and we got a mark it was 3.3/3.5m under 2 big trees and a fenceline running through it-gave him half hour and started to dig-real hard going took half hour to get a metre then we hit compacted shale and it slowed right down.turned around and dog showed outside 1 of the holes-he was in a right sorry state and so we cleaned him up and collared up my little bitch-she flew in and went straight to where the other dog had been-dig back on-4hrs later and we had opened up enough to see the bitch working the quarry-so she was lifted and quarry dispatched-talking to my mate and he said the dog had spewed-but looking back he was still sore from the last few digs the boy had, had with him-my mate reckons the dog knew we couldnt get down to him quick enough so thats why he gave up-what do you think?when i saw the dog work the week before he was real tidy and we where digging him at about 1.5/2m twice the same day without a problem.has anyone else had this happen to them?ive told my mate to rest him fully and then we will see if it was a one off or hes ruined.would of thought that the dog wouldnt care how deep the quarry was judging by how much gusto he had when working on the last few occassions-my view is the dog was sore and walked because he is smart-i could be wrong-what do you all think?interested in anwsers from proper dog men and not the keyboard crew atb bobby

In my opinion when a working terrier goes to his quarry there should be no excuse for it to leave it maybe you shouldn't have entered the dog sore but even still he walked and that is that you can lie him up and try him again he might dig 50 more but in the back of your head you will never have full faith in him

. If you have any of this type you want shut of say after 15 digs and its still playing on your mind ill feed it bud

I'm not saying its not worth keeping but if he walked once sore or not and he gets took into the trenches again there is a chance he will walk

well if that happens again and again then ya know what to do but is def worth giving it another try fully healed. remember if hes sore before entering and gets more stick then he feels hes getting a beating its all about keeping the dog winning us humans arnt the only ones that learn from days in the field

This is true as well but you can't get it handy for the terrier all the time so you need a dog that can take a bit of a hiding if that's what it takes to get the job done

yep i understand what your saying but getting a hiding on top of a hiding is a recipe for failure so is it the owner of the dog to blame for not recognising that the dog was injured and needed another week of rest to get back to its best?

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could be the other 2 didnt have the same experience just a thought

[aaron01 737]

KNOWING WHEN TO REST A TERRIER IS THE ACT OF A TERRIER MAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THERE ARE TERRIER MEN AND THEN THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO OWN TERRIERS !!!!!!!!!!

Listen I'm not an ejit it's yours mans fault for dropping him sore but every terrier man does it from time to time so surely it was a test of the dogs determanition if the dog had of stayed and dug the stuff you would be signing its praises and rightfully so but it didn't so does that terrier lack that little bit

[gonetoearth 5,144]

I am going to stick my neck out here and will probably get shot down in flames but can only say it as ive seen it over the years .....imo I honestly dont think there is that much differance in each terriers scenting capabilities not when to ground anyway ...obviously some terriers have better noses than others but I think that all hunting types of dogs have good scent and in the confines of an earth even in big spots I think that the quarry is not found mainly by scent but a mixture of a lot of things .....I f another dog has been entered the earth before and lifted then another terrier has been entered then I think that would hamper a terrier finding as the scent would be all over the place .....you hear this all the time that to be a good finder they must have a good nose but I dont think there can be that much of a differance in each terriers smelling capabilities ....I may be wrong but food for thought

. Ooops carnt agree letting three terriers running free just say they all piled in one after another. First with the scenting ability smashed to foook. OOOOOOPS

 

OOh, cant agree there sorry, how would you explain the following : 3 terriers running loose along a track, one terrier stops puts it's nose in the air, goes down a bank swims a storm drain climbs the oposite bank crosses a track, drops in and bolts two foxes one after the other.

Now the other two terriers never had a clue there was anything there. Can only be difference in scenting ability surely ?

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has he been carrying an injury you have missed?maybe why he dont face quarry and says nobody home?been digging to a dog the last few weeks and he has been spot on-tried him boxing day and he bolted 2 from a big old place,then moved on-when he settled and we got a mark it was 3.3/3.5m under 2 big trees and a fenceline running through it-gave him half hour and started to dig-real hard going took half hour to get a metre then we hit compacted shale and it slowed right down.turned around and dog showed outside 1 of the holes-he was in a right sorry state and so we cleaned him up and collared up my little bitch-she flew in and went straight to where the other dog had been-dig back on-4hrs later and we had opened up enough to see the bitch working the quarry-so she was lifted and quarry dispatched-talking to my mate and he said the dog had spewed-but looking back he was still sore from the last few digs the boy had, had with him-my mate reckons the dog knew we couldnt get down to him quick enough so thats why he gave up-what do you think?when i saw the dog work the week before he was real tidy and we where digging him at about 1.5/2m twice the same day without a problem.has anyone else had this happen to them?ive told my mate to rest him fully and then we will see if it was a one off or hes ruined.would of thought that the dog wouldnt care how deep the quarry was judging by how much gusto he had when working on the last few occassions-my view is the dog was sore and walked because he is smart-i could be wrong-what do you all think?interested in anwsers from proper dog men and not the keyboard crew atb bobby

In my opinion when a working terrier goes to his quarry there should be no excuse for it to leave it maybe you shouldn't have entered the dog sore but even still he walked and that is that you can lie him up and try him again he might dig 50 more but in the back of your head you will never have full faith in him

. If you have any of this type you want shut of say after 15 digs and its still playing on your mind ill feed it bud

I'm not saying its not worth keeping but if he walked once sore or not and he gets took into the trenches again there is a chance he will walk

it could show that he has this streak in him there is 1 thing for sure time will tell u

[gonetoearth 5,144]

KNOWING WHEN TO REST A TERRIER IS THE ACT OF A TERRIER MAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THERE ARE TERRIER MEN AND THEN THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO OWN TERRIERS !!!!!!!!!!

Listen I'm not an ejit it's yours mans fault for dropping him sore but every terrier man does it from time to time so surely it was a test of the dogs determanition if the dog had of stayed and dug the stuff you would be signing its praises and rightfully so but it didn't so does that terrier lack that little bit

. Aint my ego why i go digging bud ITS ALL ABOUT THE TERRIERS !

[aaron01 737]

has he been carrying an injury you have missed?maybe why he dont face quarry and says nobody home?been digging to a dog the last few weeks and he has been spot on-tried him boxing day and he bolted 2 from a big old place,then moved on-when he settled and we got a mark it was 3.3/3.5m under 2 big trees and a fenceline running through it-gave him half hour and started to dig-real hard going took half hour to get a metre then we hit compacted shale and it slowed right down.turned around and dog showed outside 1 of the holes-he was in a right sorry state and so we cleaned him up and collared up my little bitch-she flew in and went straight to where the other dog had been-dig back on-4hrs later and we had opened up enough to see the bitch working the quarry-so she was lifted and quarry dispatched-talking to my mate and he said the dog had spewed-but looking back he was still sore from the last few digs the boy had, had with him-my mate reckons the dog knew we couldnt get down to him quick en

ough so thats why he gave up-what do you think?when i saw the dog work the week before he was real tidy and we where digging him at about 1.5/2m twice the same day without a problem.has anyone else had this happen to them?ive told my mate to rest him fully and then we will see if it was a one off or hes ruined.would of thought that the dog wouldnt care how deep the quarry was judging by how much gusto he had when working on the last few occassions-my view is the dog was sore and walked because he is smart-i could be wrong-what do you all think?interested in anwsers from proper dog men and not the keyboard crew atb bobby

In my opinion when a working terrier goes to his quarry there should be no excuse for it to leave it maybe you shouldn't have entered the dog sore but even still he walked and that is that you can lie him up and try him again he might dig 50 more but in the back of your head you will never have full faith in him

. If you have any of this type you want shut of say after 15 digs and its still playing on your mind ill feed it bud

I'm not saying its not worth keeping but if he walked once sore or not and he gets took into the trenches again there is a chance he will walk

it could show that he has this streak in him there is 1 thing for sure time will tell u

My point excatly there will be a question mark beside him

[whippet 99 2,613]

KNOWING WHEN TO REST A TERRIER IS THE ACT OF A TERRIER MAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THERE ARE TERRIER MEN AND THEN THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO OWN TERRIERS !!!!!!!!!!

which one are you...........?

i own them .............terrierman no such thing ...................

i havent seen very much and never will ..............but ive seen so called professionals on a short drain , one up one end with draining rods and the other up the other end looking in with a torch and they wondered why it wouldnt bolt ............?

all this terriermen and theres terrier men is aload of pish..........lol

[aaron01 737]

KNOWING WHEN TO REST A TERRIER IS THE ACT OF A TERRIER MAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THERE ARE TERRIER MEN AND THEN THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO OWN TERRIERS !!!!!!!!!!

Listen I'm not an ejit it's yours mans fault for dropping him sore but every terrier man does it from time to time so surely it was a test of the dogs determanition if the dog had of stayed and dug the stuff you would be signing its praises and rightfully so but it didn't so does that terrier lack that little bit

. Aint my ego why i go digging bud ITS ALL ABOUT THE TERRIERS !

I have no ego either but he asked for an opinion and I gave mine

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KNOWING WHEN TO REST A TERRIER IS THE ACT OF A TERRIER MAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THERE ARE TERRIER MEN AND THEN THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO OWN TERRIERS !!!!!!!!!!

Listen I'm not an ejit it's yours mans fault for dropping him sore but every terrier man does it from time to time so surely it was a test of the dogs determanition if the dog had of stayed and dug the stuff you would be signing its praises and rightfully so but it didn't so does that terrier lack that little bit

. Aint my ego why i go digging bud ITS ALL ABOUT THE TERRIERS !

I have no ego either but he asked for an opinion and I gave mine

yeah you do you egotistical prick laugh out loud

[gonetoearth 5,144]

KNOWING WHEN TO REST A TERRIER IS THE ACT OF A TERRIER MAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THERE ARE TERRIER MEN AND THEN THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO OWN TERRIERS !!!!!!!!!!

which one are you...........?

i own them .............terrierman no such thing ...................

i havent seen very much and never will ..............but ive seen so called professionals on a short drain , one up one end with draining rods and the other up the other end looking in with a torch and they wondered why it wouldnt bolt ............?

all this terriermen and theres terrier men is aload of pish..........lol

. Id answer you but you might throw the dummy out the pram and start going all of line oh and they wernt terrier men they worked for dynarod. Bud. X

[whippet 99 2,613]

KNOWING WHEN TO REST A TERRIER IS THE ACT OF A TERRIER MAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THERE ARE TERRIER MEN AND THEN THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO OWN TERRIERS !!!!!!!!!!

which one are you...........?

i own them .............terrierman no such thing ...................

i havent seen very much and never will ..............but ive seen so called professionals on a short drain , one up one end with draining rods and the other up the other end looking in with a torch and they wondered why it wouldnt bolt ............?

all this terriermen and theres terrier men is aload of pish..........lol

. Id answer you but you might throw the dummy out the pram and start going all of line oh and they wernt terrier men they worked for dynarod. Bud. X

you didnt turn up at bodmin...................i wore my favouroute aftershave ........x

[aaron01 737]

KNOWING WHEN TO REST A TERRIER IS THE ACT OF A TERRIER MAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THERE ARE TERRIER MEN AND THEN THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO OWN TERRIERS !!!!!!!!!!

Listen I'm not an ejit it's yours mans fault for dropping him sore but every terrier man does it from time to time so surely it was a test of the dogs determanition if the dog had of stayed and dug the stuff you would be signing its praises and rightfully so but it didn't so does that terrier lack that little bit

. Aint my ego why i go digging bud ITS ALL ABOUT THE TERRIERS !

I have no ego either but he asked for an opinion and I gave mine

yeah you do you egotistical prick laugh out loud

I'm all ego and no terriers lol