Your grade!!

[Simoman 110]

Just wondering, when you buy a pup you have aspirations of what you want the dog to develop into, what quarry it will take and how it will complement your hunting.....What percentage of pups you have reared and carefully entered have made YOUR grade bearing in mind what the intended work for the dog was?

Edited July 7, 2007 by Simoman

[ASME IX 1]

100% if they were to work the bins lol.

 

mines about 60%

 

asme9

[Bosun11 537]

With all honesty Simo, two, my old two bull 1/2x's. Was at the time quite sick of rearing 'well bred' lurcher to lurcher crosses only to find them lacking, usually on the big stuff, with these it was a case of right lines, right stuff, job done!!

Still an always will, admire any cross thats bred to do an does well, any specific or all round job but at the time (15 years ago) these dogs were a revalation........pure 'Cuprinol'.......did exactley what it said on the tin!!

[THE POACHER 13]

i think this may turn into a good thread as people got diffrent standards and work diffrent quarry ive raised 3 lurchers from pups one dog called blue which done everything ive asked for he was a very quick dog i wanted him mainly for lamping rabbits or fox but he turned into a good all round dog doing all quarry apart from deer he was a suluki grey/colliegrey x beddy grey then i brung on the dog ive got now which is a 1/4 bull 3/4 grey and again i wanted him for lamping rabbits and fox which he done very well he also a good dog to have out with the terriers he was no good for hare as he was not quick enough to stay with them which didnt bother me to be honest then i got a young bull x this year 3/8 5/8 i wanted him to retreve shot foxes on the lamp and lamp rabbits also abit of work out marking with the terriers but he didnt get the chance as he had to be pts as he had badly broken his hip vet said he will just about walk alone run so it was for the best

 

basicaly all i wanted was a dog that would catch rabbits and take fox single handed before the ban

 

 

will be keeping my eye on this thread

[Guest JDF]

me personaly,i'm not as hard on runners as other types,i give them an education in all the branches of lurcher work and work them to they're strentghs,that way i've had few failures.

[juckler123 707]

Good question SIMOMAN

Ive been lucky with pups only had one out of about a dozen that i brought up from pups and he was a yapper he ended up at a keepers in scotland where he could yap to his hearts content.

I only ever had one for a for a particular job and that was a 1st x collie grew all the others have been bitsas worker to worker bred ive only ever bought one pup that i didnt know the parentage of so that probably why i have been so lucky as i expect them to do their jobs fully

[Phil Lloyd 10,738]

Just wondering, when you buy a pup you have aspirations of what you want the dog to develop into, what quarry it will take and how it will complement your hunting.....What percentage of pups you have reared and carefully entered have made YOUR grade bearing in mind what the intended work for the dog was?

 

 

I think a genuine lurcher 'enthusiast' is always looking to own a dog that is a wee bit special...

And once again we enter into the often confused area of just what is,..and what isn't,..'special..

Personally,..my big ambition is to one day own a decent running dog that can actualy catch a rabbit...

 

I like to see all these questions ,and hear all the answers...

Its strange what folk talk about on the Net,...diverse subjects that might never be raised at other times,..very interesting... All the best to ALL crosses,...cheers,.CHALKWARREN...

[skycat 6,173]

me personaly,i'm not as hard on runners as other types,i give them an education in all the branches of lurcher work and work them to they're strentghs,that way i've had few failures.

 

I'm with JDF on this one: not all my dogs are going to make out and out ferreting dogs: some would rather be hunting and catching and working their socks off all the time rather than waiting for a bolt or marking buries: so they turn into lamping specialists. Before the ban about 70% of my 'line' took fox s/h, and those dogs were obviously used largely for fox, either with terriers or on the lamp. Some of mine have thrown more to the Saluki in stamina than others too, so they were the ones that were used for hares.

I guess I'm really lucky in having all sorts of work for them to do, and if one dog shines at a particular thing, then it gets the chance to really get good at that one thing by doing it a lot. Practice makes perfect as they say. I'd say I'm lucky too inasmuch that I've never had a dog that was crap at everything either. Only had one that didn't have much 'heart', which I bought in many years ago: nice dog, but she just didn't have enough 'want' in her: so she went to a weekend ferreting cum pet home.

[Guest ceredigion bull cross]

Just wondering, when you buy a pup you have aspirations of what you want the dog to develop into, what quarry it will take and how it will complement your hunting.....What percentage of pups you have reared and carefully entered have made YOUR grade bearing in mind what the intended work for the dog was?

 

at the moment i am in the middle of basic training 2 lurchers , 1 bull x that i bred last year , and 1 hancocks blue merle collie x grey .... i want the 2 of them to turn out to be allrounders , that to me means ferreting , lamping rabbits , and terrier work .........pre ban i would of added lamping fox's but we ain't allowed to do that anymore GUV as for making the grade my old dog which is a bull x is a good allround pre ban dog so i think he is a good teacher for the pups

[Guest COMPUTER HUNTER]

you only get out of a dog is what you put in if you put very little effort into a dog then ur going to get very little from the dog iv bn round working digs all my life butt reared 2 pups one was bullgrey salukigrey that i bred my self and the dog i got now i got off a good freind hes a bullgrey whippetgrey the bullgrey saluki grey was 2 and a half when i lost him he done all i asked, the dog i got now i put very little into him as once i lost my olddog i was pissed off and thought id never get another dog like him i know you will never peplace what you have lost butt you do try and do it butt he does a days graft and keeps me happy

[Guest ceredigion bull cross]

SIMOMAN i don't want to be hijacking your post but how about we all put a pic up of old dogs we were/are proud to own

[Guest oldskool]

i'm lookin really forward to reading this thread... my aim is for lamping dogs to rabbit, fox and hare and ones that can work well wth the terrier... so far i've had about 3 failures out of 7 young'uns... the three that failed was>> 1 bitsa pup that was bought in and 2 were bred and reared by myself.... they still would have taken fox, perhaps not well, but they lacked try after a bit of regular lamping on all quarry... i wrote them off and started over again with my latest litter... i think my percentage must be around 70?? i've learned through breeding my own that it takes good breeding as much as it does good entering... breeding a fair dog with a few certain good qualities to a good dog doesnt work out IMO !

[macker 5]

i'm lookin really forward to reading this thread... my aim is for lamping dogs to rabbit, fox and hare and ones that can work well wth the terrier... so far i've had about 3 failures out of 7 young'uns... the three that failed was>> 1 bitsa pup that was bought in and 2 were bred and reared by myself.... they still would have taken fox, perhaps not well, but they lacked try after a bit of regular lamping on all quarry... i wrote them off and started over again with my latest litter... i think my percentage must be around 70?? i've learned through breeding my own that it takes good breeding as much as it does good entering... breeding a fair dog with a few certain good qualities to a good dog doesnt work out IMO !

well said i also feel the same

[Simoman 110]

Thanks for the replies fellas, I was hoping this would prove an interesting thread as one mans "grade" is different to anothers, i'm sure that pre-ban many people would have bought a pup expecting it to take a variety of quarry, many would have been disapointed if the dog didn't have a go at anything that appeared infront of it whereas others would have accepted the dogs shortcomings in one area if it excelled in another. I look forward to your opinions

[Simoman 110]

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