The Seeker 3,048 Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 a lot of things come into the equation when buying a scope 1 budget . 2 day or night or both . 3 calibre ( airgun,rimfire or centrefire ) . 4 max distances you are likely to shoot .etc these are just a rough list to consider. i shoot at night and my scope is always left at 7 ( 3 x 9 x 50 burris ).reason being i read an article in a gun magazine trying to explaining the myths /misconceptions of scope sizes regarding light.what came out of the tests was an adults eye pupil max diameter was around 7 mm so that was the max ammount of light which could enter the eye irrespective of scope objective size ( 40 ,42 ,56 )that is why mine on my 3 x 9 50 set at 7 gives ratio a fraction over 7 .there are other factors which come into it .some 56 scopes have 25 mm inner tubes so light entering is basically the same as a 25 mm tube.clarity of glass and quality of lenses will degrade light input.a lot of people who shoot nv find cheaper scopes with less lens special coatings get a better clarity picture than with some more expensive scopes ( and around 6 x mag ). the findings of this testing in this article was that if you have a scope which has the same components a 50,56, mm dia scope or 40 scope the max light entering your eye for max optical viewing is still 7 mm which is basically all you can see due to your eye pupil size. this might be why a lot of fixed mag scopes are 6 x 42 ,8 x 56 ( where this 7 factor is inbuilt.) if i could find this article again i will post it on here.in your case probably max shooting at 100 yds daytime night there are a number of cheaper options.better to try bfore you buy if possible.i have a 3 x 9 x50 nikko sterling on my 22 rimfire with mildot reticle ,which cost £50 ,which is good enough for my needs.if you want to buy a top quality scope on limited budget second hand can save a lot of money. good luck. And I think it is by the age 30, the max exit pupil has reduced to only 5mm and not the 7mm of the young adult! Quality of glass and coatings are defiantly the best option. I only use cheap scopes on my rimmies, ( Nikon monarch 3 and bushnell) but they are both more than suitable for day, dawn/dusk and lamping. Got to agree with Tegater on the Nikon range I have a Monarch on my .223 and it's very good for the money, also a mate has the pro staff for a rimmy I could think of no better scope on a budget. A Zeiss representative looked through the pro staff and admitted he had no idea how they did it for the money. Quote Link to post
stillair1 16 Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 As said quality optics over big front end lenses. Something like a bushnell trophy 4-12x40. It has enough mag at 12x to fine zero at 50yds. Wind it back down to 6mag to hunt with, set parallax at 50yds and your good to go. Quote Link to post
bullit666 5 Posted December 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 Excellent advice chaps. Dogvixen01 very insightful. Like I said its not that I want some spetsnaz scope for no money. I just wanted to get something that would do the job for night and day and not break the bank. I dont need super hd. Just good enough that I can see Bugs and blast him in the kisser. Thanks for the clarification. I feel I can make a slightly more educated decision. Quote Link to post
bullit666 5 Posted December 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Monarch 3 cheap. Lol Quote Link to post
The Seeker 3,048 Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Monarch 3 cheap. Lol I paid £150 for mine 2nd hand so yes I would say quite cheap. Quote Link to post
bullit666 5 Posted December 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Thats good money. Brand new is a bit out of my budget. Quote Link to post
PLEDGEY 496 Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 MTC Mamba Lite. Quote Link to post
tegater 789 Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Monarch 3 cheap. Lol Yea for the monarch I agree, but for the .22, I just have a Bushnell sportsman and that is more than adequate and cost about £60 I think. For me a .22 is a 50_70m rifle in usual field circumstances. Quote Link to post
bullit666 5 Posted December 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Monarch 3 cheap. Lol Yea for the monarch I agree, but for the .22, I just have a Bushnell sportsman and that is more than adequate and cost about £60 I think. For me a .22 is a 50_70m rifle in usual field circumstances. Thats what im saying. 70m = 80yards ish. Just wanna be able to zoom and place the shot rather than not having enough mag to see my target clearly. I dont need super sas quality gear. Its a .22 ! Im not even fussed about weight.. I got a bipod and if im walking about im a strong lad so can hold a rifle steady for a 60yard shot off my knee. All I can take from this thus far is pricey scopes have clear optics and more minutes. Which we all knew anyways...but other than that its just get what you fancy? Quote Link to post
tegater 789 Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 In my opinion you don't even need a bipod with a .22 unless taking it back a bit, but yes any decent zoom like the bushnell, hawke, etc will do. You don't need a zoom over 9x either, a fixed 3 or 4x will suffice if that saves you pennies. Quote Link to post
tom 2 9 Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 hiya mate ive got a hawke nighteye 3-12x50 on my 452 does the job,if you ask on these sites you just get confused and end up paying shit loads on something you dont need.Keep it simple. 2 Quote Link to post
bullit666 5 Posted December 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 nice tom 2 thats what i like. Quote Link to post
oxo 498 Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 For the money and mag you want a Bushnell Legend 5-15x40 will be a good bet. Quote Link to post
bullit666 5 Posted December 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 For the money and mag you want a Bushnell Legend 5-15x40 will be a good bet. say one of those on the bay for 1£145. Im eying up a very nice classic. Bit ott but why the hell not Quote Link to post
oxo 498 Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 For the money and mag you want a Bushnell Legend 5-15x40 will be a good bet. say one of those on the bay for 1£145. Im eying up a very nice classic. Bit ott but why the hell not Theres one on airgunbbs at the minute (bushnell legend) for £115, nothing to do with me Quote Link to post
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