Are small amounts of blood enough?

[morton 5,368]

In lurcher breeding if you have a dog and bitch both with 1/4 of separate breeds in there such as 1/4 collie on one side and 1/4 bull on the other and the remainder whippet and greyhound, is there going to be enough of either to be of any use?

 

Ie - If you are using the 3/4 whip/grey 1/4 bull because of his strength and the 3/4 whip/grey 1/4 collie because of her brains is there a chance that these traits would get diluted further and the pups won't have the dogs strength and won't have the bitches brains?

 

Cheers.

 

Gaz.

Forget percentages,as soon as mathematics becomes important to breeding lurchers,then the breedings flawed.Decent working mutt bred to the same will usually produce the same,the ability of the parents in the field is far more important than the percentage of this and that and what will show in the mix,ability first and foremost.

 

I aren't talking about mathematics or percentages.

 

Say you've got 2 dogs pre ban, 1 good at hares due to dash of saluki blood, one good at foxes due to dash of bull blood.

 

What would you expect from pups? Be ok at both? Some throw to one some to the other?

If you breed a good coursing dog to a good fox dog,you will most likely end up with a mediocre coursing dog and an average fox dog,some pups will buck the trend some will not,as soon as breeding starts to become hit and miss then the breedings flawed,breed to a dogs ability not against it.

[Tiny 7 1,694]

You really have gone off the chart with your bitch....

 

 

Getting it Blood tested

 

 

And on here asking if this would match this ect and your mates got a Sal/Gh/Whip.

 

 

 

 

 

 

IMO if your breeding 3/4 to 3/4 be it what ever cross. It dont always work on paper. Put the very best too the very you shouldnt go far wrong...!!

 

 

 

 

Where did you get your bitch from back in July?

 

What do you mean? I've gone off the chart?

 

What's my mate having a sal/whip/grey got to do with this topic?

 

And I got her from a bloke Why?

Every other week your on here asking about this X's and that cross (Fair matey its a hunting site) but come on..

 

 

Your bitch has been a Sal/BullGh then a Sal/Collie/Bull/Gh now she's a Sal/Gh/Whip as youve had her dna tested.. Then kennels and then what size ect and then your lurcher went into to your terrier after you was told not too....... And then this x crossed that x and your mates proven dog over that ect ........

 

It's getting a bit much now, Stop trying too find the sicence behind it and get out and hammer your bitch and see if she;'s got what it takes or if your after a pup theres plenty a good litter about if you look carefully and choose what suits you and quarry your after......

 

 

Its Xmas matey i wish you all the best

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

You really have gone off the chart with your bitch....

 

 

Getting it Blood tested

 

 

And on here asking if this would match this ect and your mates got a Sal/Gh/Whip.

 

 

 

 

 

 

IMO if your breeding 3/4 to 3/4 be it what ever cross. It dont always work on paper. Put the very best too the very you shouldnt go far wrong...!!

 

 

 

 

Where did you get your bitch from back in July?

 

What do you mean? I've gone off the chart?

 

What's my mate having a sal/whip/grey got to do with this topic?

 

And I got her from a bloke Why?

Every other week your on here asking about this X's and that cross (Fair matey its a hunting site) but come on..

 

 

Your bitch has been a Sal/BullGh then a Sal/Collie/Bull/Gh now she's a Sal/Gh/Whip as youve had her dna tested.. Then kennels and then what size ect and then your lurcher went into to your terrier after you was told not too....... And then this x crossed that x and your mates proven dog over that ect ........

 

It's getting a bit much now, Stop trying too find the sicence behind it and get out and hammer your bitch and see if she;'s got what it takes or if your after a pup theres plenty a good litter about if you look carefully and choose what suits you and quarry your after......

 

 

Its Xmas matey i wish you all the best

 

It might be Xmas but your still talking bollox.

 

If you don't like people asking about lurchers and running dogs on the lurchers and running dog section then maybe you should frequent the ferreting section...

 

But be warned. They WILL talk about ferrets my friend

[Daytimeonly 91]

the right dog to the right bitch, should produce the right pups

[Tiny 7 1,694]

You really have gone off the chart with your bitch....

 

 

Getting it Blood tested

 

 

And on here asking if this would match this ect and your mates got a Sal/Gh/Whip.

 

 

 

 

 

 

IMO if your breeding 3/4 to 3/4 be it what ever cross. It dont always work on paper. Put the very best too the very you shouldnt go far wrong...!!

 

 

 

 

Where did you get your bitch from back in July?

 

What do you mean? I've gone off the chart?

 

What's my mate having a sal/whip/grey got to do with this topic?

 

And I got her from a bloke Why?

Every other week your on here asking about this X's and that cross (Fair matey its a hunting site) but come on..

 

 

Your bitch has been a Sal/BullGh then a Sal/Collie/Bull/Gh now she's a Sal/Gh/Whip as youve had her dna tested.. Then kennels and then what size ect and then your lurcher went into to your terrier after you was told not too....... And then this x crossed that x and your mates proven dog over that ect ........

 

It's getting a bit much now, Stop trying too find the sicence behind it and get out and hammer your bitch and see if she;'s got what it takes or if your after a pup theres plenty a good litter about if you look carefully and choose what suits you and quarry your after......

 

 

Its Xmas matey i wish you all the best

 

It might be Xmas but your still talking bollox.

 

If you don't like people asking about lurchers and running dogs on the lurchers and running dog section then maybe you should frequent the ferreting section...

 

But be warned. They WILL talk about ferrets my friend

 

 

Do you know what matey...... Its Xmas lets just leave it but anyone only has too look back on your proflie till last yr and they'll see.......

 

Atb last ill say on the subject.........!!

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

You really have gone off the chart with your bitch....

 

 

Getting it Blood tested

 

 

And on here asking if this would match this ect and your mates got a Sal/Gh/Whip.

 

 

 

 

 

 

IMO if your breeding 3/4 to 3/4 be it what ever cross. It dont always work on paper. Put the very best too the very you shouldnt go far wrong...!!

 

 

 

 

Where did you get your bitch from back in July?

 

What do you mean? I've gone off the chart?

 

What's my mate having a sal/whip/grey got to do with this topic?

 

And I got her from a bloke Why?

Every other week your on here asking about this X's and that cross (Fair matey its a hunting site) but come on..

 

 

Your bitch has been a Sal/BullGh then a Sal/Collie/Bull/Gh now she's a Sal/Gh/Whip as youve had her dna tested.. Then kennels and then what size ect and then your lurcher went into to your terrier after you was told not too....... And then this x crossed that x and your mates proven dog over that ect ........

 

It's getting a bit much now, Stop trying too find the sicence behind it and get out and hammer your bitch and see if she;'s got what it takes or if your after a pup theres plenty a good litter about if you look carefully and choose what suits you and quarry your after......

 

 

Its Xmas matey i wish you all the best

 

It might be Xmas but your still talking bollox.

 

If you don't like people asking about lurchers and running dogs on the lurchers and running dog section then maybe you should frequent the ferreting section...

 

But be warned. They WILL talk about ferrets my friend

 

 

Do you know what matey...... Its Xmas lets just leave it but anyone only has too look back on your proflie till last yr and they'll see.......

 

Atb last ill say on the subject.........!!

 

What will they see?

 

That I ask alot of questions?

 

PM sent.

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

Another thread ruined by a busy body with nothing better to do but spout shite :-(

[courseadog 231]

Well it's a lotery

One of my dogs is 1/2whippetx 3/4 colie grey

He has thrown the colie cote and colour but has the

Stamp of the sire strike while the irons hot

The breeding makes him only 1/8 colie but has

Markings and is a merle

[paulus 26]

its simple you can put a collie to a greyhound and call them 1/2 crosses but the reality is some will be more collie and some will be more greyhound however if you put a good dog to a good bitch theres a good chance you will get a good pup, yes breeding out faults is a concern and should be considered but if the faults are that bad then maybe the dog shouldnt be bred off or possibly ive had to much christmas spirit

[Tiny 7 1,694]

You really have gone off the chart with your bitch....

 

 

Getting it Blood tested

 

 

And on here asking if this would match this ect and your mates got a Sal/Gh/Whip.

 

 

 

 

 

 

IMO if your breeding 3/4 to 3/4 be it what ever cross. It dont always work on paper. Put the very best too the very you shouldnt go far wrong...!!

 

 

 

 

Where did you get your bitch from back in July?

 

What do you mean? I've gone off the chart?

 

What's my mate having a sal/whip/grey got to do with this topic?

 

And I got her from a bloke Why?

Every other week your on here asking about this X's and that cross (Fair matey its a hunting site) but come on..

 

 

Your bitch has been a Sal/BullGh then a Sal/Collie/Bull/Gh now she's a Sal/Gh/Whip as youve had her dna tested.. Then kennels and then what size ect and then your lurcher went into to your terrier after you was told not too....... And then this x crossed that x and your mates proven dog over that ect ........

 

It's getting a bit much now, Stop trying too find the sicence behind it and get out and hammer your bitch and see if she;'s got what it takes or if your after a pup theres plenty a good litter about if you look carefully and choose what suits you and quarry your after......

 

 

Its Xmas matey i wish you all the best

 

It might be Xmas but your still talking bollox.

 

If you don't like people asking about lurchers and running dogs on the lurchers and running dog section then maybe you should frequent the ferreting section...

 

But be warned. They WILL talk about ferrets my friend

 

 

Do you know what matey...... Its Xmas lets just leave it but anyone only has too look back on your proflie till last yr and they'll see.......

 

Atb last ill say on the subject.........!!

 

What will they see?

 

That I ask alot of questions?

 

PM sent.

Pm sent back......

 

 

And your thread anit waisted...... I anit now busy body.!!! you crack on.....

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

its simple you can put a collie to a greyhound and call them 1/2 crosses but the reality is some will be more collie and some will be more greyhound however if you put a good dog to a good bitch theres a good chance you will get a good pup, yes breeding out faults is a concern and should be considered but if the faults are that bad then maybe the dog shouldnt be bred off or possibly ive had to much christmas spirit

 

That makes sense. Thanks Paulus

[graham4877 1,181]

SO this DNA test said it was a sal/whip/ grey??

[whippet 99 2,613]

In lurcher breeding if you have a dog and bitch both with 1/4 of separate breeds in there such as 1/4 collie on one side and 1/4 bull on the other and the remainder whippet and greyhound, is there going to be enough of either to be of any use?

 

Ie - If you are using the 3/4 whip/grey 1/4 bull because of his strength and the 3/4 whip/grey 1/4 collie because of her brains is there a chance that these traits would get diluted further and the pups won't have the dogs strength and won't have the bitches brains?

 

Cheers.

 

Gaz.

Forget percentages,as soon as mathematics becomes important to breeding lurchers,then the breedings flawed.Decent working mutt bred to the same will usually produce the same,the ability of the parents in the field is far more important than the percentage of this and that and what will show in the mix,ability first and foremost.

 

I aren't talking about mathematics or percentages.

 

Say you've got 2 dogs pre ban, 1 good at hares due to dash of saluki blood, one good at foxes due to dash of bull blood.

 

What would you expect from pups? Be ok at both? Some throw to one some to the other?

ive said it befire many times ,, alot depends on the guy on the other end of the lead .. some know what they are doing and some just think they do

it aint rocket science when the slip goes its up to the dog to perform ...........

yeah you can train and you can build and you can do best of a situation ..............to give dog best chance .................but the rest is up to the dog they either have it or they dont........

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

SO this DNA test said it was a sal/whip/ grey??

 

Yeh.

 

This isn't about my dog though. Just trying to gain some knowledge about breeding and how genes can throw.

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

In lurcher breeding if you have a dog and bitch both with 1/4 of separate breeds in there such as 1/4 collie on one side and 1/4 bull on the other and the remainder whippet and greyhound, is there going to be enough of either to be of any use?

 

Ie - If you are using the 3/4 whip/grey 1/4 bull because of his strength and the 3/4 whip/grey 1/4 collie because of her brains is there a chance that these traits would get diluted further and the pups won't have the dogs strength and won't have the bitches brains?

 

Cheers.

 

Gaz.

Forget percentages,as soon as mathematics becomes important to breeding lurchers,then the breedings flawed.Decent working mutt bred to the same will usually produce the same,the ability of the parents in the field is far more important than the percentage of this and that and what will show in the mix,ability first and foremost.

 

I aren't talking about mathematics or percentages.

 

Say you've got 2 dogs pre ban, 1 good at hares due to dash of saluki blood, one good at foxes due to dash of bull blood.

 

What would you expect from pups? Be ok at both? Some throw to one some to the other?

ive said it befire many times ,, alot depends on the guy on the other end of the lead .. some know what they are doing and some just think they do

it aint rocket science when the slip goes its up to the dog to perform ...........

yeah you can train and you can build and you can do best of a situation ..............to give dog best chance .................but the rest is up to the dog they either have it or they dont........

 

I agree.

 

I don't think ALOT depends on the guy at the end of the lead. Yeh retrieving and recall etc. But as for pure graft, surely that's either in the dog or it isn't?