Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 In lurcher breeding if you have a dog and bitch both with 1/4 of separate breeds in there such as 1/4 collie on one side and 1/4 bull on the other and the remainder whippet and greyhound, is there going to be enough of either to be of any use? Ie - If you are using the 3/4 whip/grey 1/4 bull because of his strength and the 3/4 whip/grey 1/4 collie because of her brains is there a chance that these traits would get diluted further and the pups won't have the dogs strength and won't have the bitches brains? Cheers. Gaz. Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 In lurcher breeding if you have a dog and bitch both with 1/4 of separate breeds in there such as 1/4 collie on one side and 1/4 bull on the other and the remainder whippet and greyhound, is there going to be enough of either to be of any use? Ie - If you are using the 3/4 whip/grey 1/4 bull because of his strength and the 3/4 whip/grey 1/4 collie because of her brains is there a chance that these traits would get diluted further and the pups won't have the dogs strength and won't have the bitches brains? Cheers. Gaz. Forget percentages,as soon as mathematics becomes important to breeding lurchers,then the breedings flawed.Decent working mutt bred to the same will usually produce the same,the ability of the parents in the field is far more important than the percentage of this and that and what will show in the mix,ability first and foremost. 6 Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 It dont work like that. Quote Link to post
cantona 310 Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 lurcher to lurcher works well, if both dogs do well then pups have every chance, i bred a litter of lurchers which were 1 eaighth bull, 1 eaighth bedlington , one eaighth collie one eaighth whippet,half greyhound,some looked like bull cross some bedlington some collie and some greyhound, 12 pups and of the 6 i kept in touch all worked well. Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 In lurcher breeding if you have a dog and bitch both with 1/4 of separate breeds in there such as 1/4 collie on one side and 1/4 bull on the other and the remainder whippet and greyhound, is there going to be enough of either to be of any use? Ie - If you are using the 3/4 whip/grey 1/4 bull because of his strength and the 3/4 whip/grey 1/4 collie because of her brains is there a chance that these traits would get diluted further and the pups won't have the dogs strength and won't have the bitches brains? Cheers. Gaz. Forget percentages,as soon as mathematics becomes important to breeding lurchers,then the breedings flawed.Decent working mutt bred to the same will usually produce the same,the ability of the parents in the field is far more important than the percentage of this and that and what will show in the mix,ability first and foremost. Good post. Quote Link to post
Tiny 7 1,694 Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 You really have gone off the chart with your bitch.... Getting it Blood tested And on here asking if this would match this ect and your mates got a Sal/Gh/Whip. IMO if your breeding 3/4 to 3/4 be it what ever cross. It dont always work on paper. Put the very best too the very you shouldnt go far wrong...!! Where did you get your bitch from back in July? 2 Quote Link to post
Ray Mears 272 Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 some dogs throw to the side more than others be impossible to tell the exact breeding of that dog 100% Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted December 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 In lurcher breeding if you have a dog and bitch both with 1/4 of separate breeds in there such as 1/4 collie on one side and 1/4 bull on the other and the remainder whippet and greyhound, is there going to be enough of either to be of any use? Ie - If you are using the 3/4 whip/grey 1/4 bull because of his strength and the 3/4 whip/grey 1/4 collie because of her brains is there a chance that these traits would get diluted further and the pups won't have the dogs strength and won't have the bitches brains? Cheers. Gaz. Forget percentages,as soon as mathematics becomes important to breeding lurchers,then the breedings flawed.Decent working mutt bred to the same will usually produce the same,the ability of the parents in the field is far more important than the percentage of this and that and what will show in the mix,ability first and foremost. I aren't talking about mathematics or percentages. Say you've got 2 dogs pre ban, 1 good at hares due to dash of saluki blood, one good at foxes due to dash of bull blood. What would you expect from pups? Be ok at both? Some throw to one some to the other? Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted December 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 You really have gone off the chart with your bitch.... Getting it Blood tested And on here asking if this would match this ect and your mates got a Sal/Gh/Whip. IMO if your breeding 3/4 to 3/4 be it what ever cross. It dont always work on paper. Put the very best too the very you shouldnt go far wrong...!! Where did you get your bitch from back in July? What do you mean? I've gone off the chart? What's my mate having a sal/whip/grey got to do with this topic? And I got her from a bloke Why? Quote Link to post
graham4877 1,181 Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 If your happy with the dog and its doing what you want.. you should only be worried about the best sire you can get on her.. I think its a bitch?? Also look at adding something.. IE a bit speed/ hight or smaller Quote Link to post
Ray Mears 272 Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 In lurcher breeding if you have a dog and bitch both with 1/4 of separate breeds in there such as 1/4 collie on one side and 1/4 bull on the other and the remainder whippet and greyhound, is there going to be enough of either to be of any use? Ie - If you are using the 3/4 whip/grey 1/4 bull because of his strength and the 3/4 whip/grey 1/4 collie because of her brains is there a chance that these traits would get diluted further and the pups won't have the dogs strength and won't have the bitches brains? Cheers. Gaz. Forget percentages,as soon as mathematics becomes important to breeding lurchers,then the breedings flawed.Decent working mutt bred to the same will usually produce the same,the ability of the parents in the field is far more important than the percentage of this and that and what will show in the mix,ability first and foremost. I aren't talking about mathematics or percentages. Say you've got 2 dogs pre ban, 1 good at hares due to dash of saluki blood, one good at foxes due to dash of bull blood. What would you expect from pups? Be ok at both? Some throw to one some to the other? some take more of a certain gene on bored than others and some less but more of another etc.. just my opinion Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted December 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 lurcher to lurcher works well, if both dogs do well then pups have every chance, i bred a litter of lurchers which were 1 eaighth bull, 1 eaighth bedlington , one eaighth collie one eaighth whippet,half greyhound,some looked like bull cross some bedlington some collie and some greyhound, 12 pups and of the 6 i kept in touch all worked well. So the litter splits and they throw to different genes. Thanks. Decent reply Quote Link to post
riohog 5,708 Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 In lurcher breeding if you have a dog and bitch both with 1/4 of separate breeds in there such as 1/4 collie on one side and 1/4 bull on the other and the remainder whippet and greyhound, is there going to be enough of either to be of any use? Ie - If you are using the 3/4 whip/grey 1/4 bull because of his strength and the 3/4 whip/grey 1/4 collie because of her brains is there a chance that these traits would get diluted further and the pups won't have the dogs strength and won't have the bitches brains? Cheers. Gaz. Forget percentages,as soon as mathematics becomes important to breeding lurchers,then the breedings flawed.Decent working mutt bred to the same will usually produce the same,the ability of the parents in the field is far more important than the percentage of this and that and what will show in the mix,ability first and foremost. I aren't talking about mathematics or percentages. Say you've got 2 dogs pre ban, 1 good at hares due to dash of saluki blood, one good at foxes due to dash of bull blood. What would you expect from pups? Be ok at both? Some throw to one some to the other? ive said it befire many times ,, alot depends on the guy on the other end of the lead .. some know what they are doing and some just think they do 2 Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted December 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 If you happy with the dog and its doing what you want.. you should only be worried about the best sire you can get on her.. I think its a bitch?? Also look at adding something.. IE a bit speed/ hight or smaller I aren't considering breeding my bitch mate. Just curious, like asking and learning. Gaz Quote Link to post
jack68 628 Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 I would say yes even the small amount of % of each will be in the make-up of the pup even without going into genetics, or as lurcher lads we would just be running the first x lurcher wouldn't we..jack Quote Link to post
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