Malt 379 Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 Can't dispute his Achievement in the English/Domestic game he is Certanily up there Alongside Paisley concerning the last 40yrs . . But when it comes to Europe he Certanily isn't the best as he has won 2 European Cups in 25 yrs with the Big Crowds and an open Cheque Book backing him , Maurinho won a European cup and title in Portugal , then came to England and turned Chelsea into a Title/Double winning Team , then went to Italy done the same with Inter winning the Treble , then Spain with Real Madrid Winning there Title off Barca who many say are 1 off the best teams ever , yes he's had the Financial Backing but that's only a part of producing a successful Club / Team as many have found out , so for me Maurinho's record in European Football stands head and Shoulders above Ferguson or any 1 for that matter as he's been there and done it ! Mourinho is good but I'm going to take issue with some of your points! First off, Fergie has won 3 European cups, the first with Aberdeen who he took on and also knocked the Old Firm off their perch and won the league with them, no mean feat.. Mourinho won his first European cup with Porto in a final against Monaco, during the run the only team of note they beat was United and they went through on away goals after two draws with united having a Paul Scholes goal incorrectly ruled offside at Old Trafford, fine, fine margins.. He also didn't turn Chelsea into winning team off his own back, he had Abramovich backing him and the team he inherited would have won the league the season before he came if Ranieri wasn't so fecking clueless and indecisive when it came to feilding his strongest 11.. Have you been following Real this season? He's been there 3 odd seasons now and has only one league title to his name.. Lesser managers would have and have been sacked there a long, long time ago. Capello springs to mind, sacked just after winning the league and he didn't have the talents of a certain world record signing at his disposal.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
asanley 1,009 Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 He didn,t win the European cup with Aberdeen , 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 He didn,t win the European cup with Aberdeen , Maybe not the big European cup but he won two pieces of Euro silverware with Aberdeen, no mean feat by any standards.. I'd love to see Mourinho do that! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lanesra 3,994 Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 Malt Your Wrong for starters he hasn't won 3 European cups , he Never won it with Aberdeen , it was the Cup winners cup , you talk about FINE MARGINS well look at the 2 European cups he has won Bayern Munich played United off the Park in his 1st win and a certain Mr Terry Slipped when taking a Penalty to Win it for Chelsea so Fine Margins/Luck is needed to win any Trophy . Yes Mauriiho had Abramovichs Backing , like Ferguson has had the Backing from the Board at Old Trafford !! Spending money doesn't Guarentee success Though without the Backing you've no chance off Competing (I know that only too well @Arsenal) at the Highest level , the Chelsea team he inherited was Good but Certanily not the Finished Article , and it was That Poor side you Mention Monaco that beat them in the Semi to face Maurinho's Porto in the Final !! He brought Drogba And Carvalio which added to what he had and his way off getting the best out off players turned Chelsea From also Ryan's to Winners ! As for this yr at Real yes there struggling but that's life you can't always get it right . . . After 3 yrs at Old Trafford most fans where calling for Ferguson to be Sacked , so with Porto he Conquered Europe , Chelsea became firmly Established as Winners under him , Inter Milan won A Treble under him and in Spain he De-Throned probably the Finest team off our Generation . . . His record throughout Europe isn't Equalled at Club Level by Ferguson or Who-ever you care to mention ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lanesra 3,994 Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 He didn,t win the European cup with Aberdeen , Maybe not the big European cup but he won two pieces of Euro silverware with Aberdeen, no mean feat by any standards.. I'd love to see Mourinho do that! in your own words Malt Maurinho has done it . . . He Won The Champions League with Porto !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 Malt Your Wrong for starters he hasn't won 3 European cups , he Never won it with Aberdeen , it was the Cup winners cup , you talk about FINE MARGINS well look at the 2 European cups he has won Bayern Munich played United off the Park in his 1st win and a certain Mr Terry Slipped when taking a Penalty to Win it for Chelsea so Fine Margins/Luck is needed to win any Trophy . Yes Mauriiho had Abramovichs Backing , like Ferguson has had the Backing from the Board at Old Trafford !! Spending money doesn't Guarentee success Though without the Backing you've no chance off Competing (I know that only too well @Arsenal) at the Highest level , the Chelsea team he inherited was Good but Certanily not the Finished Article , and it was That Poor side you Mention Monaco that beat them in the Semi to face Maurinho's Porto in the Final !! He brought Drogba And Carvalio which added to what he had and his way off getting the best out off players turned Chelsea From also Ryan's to Winners ! As for this yr at Real yes there struggling but that's life you can't always get it right . . . After 3 yrs at Old Trafford most fans where calling for Ferguson to be Sacked , so with Porto he Conquered Europe , Chelsea became firmly Established as Winners under him , Inter Milan won A Treble under him and in Spain he De-Throned probably the Finest team off our Generation . . . His record throughout Europe isn't Equalled at Club Level by Ferguson or Who-ever you care to mention ! Feck it, your probably right pal, but it's like comparing the likes of Messi and Ronaldo - One might be better than the other but they are both head and shoulders above all the rest and you'd love either at your club at this moment in time! Merry Christmas! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stewie 3,387 Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 Malt Your Wrong for starters he hasn't won 3 European cups , he Never won it with Aberdeen , it was the Cup winners cup , you talk about FINE MARGINS well look at the 2 European cups he has won Bayern Munich played United off the Park in his 1st win and a certain Mr Terry Slipped when taking a Penalty to Win it for Chelsea so Fine Margins/Luck is needed to win any Trophy . Yes Mauriiho had Abramovichs Backing , like Ferguson has had the Backing from the Board at Old Trafford !! Spending money doesn't Guarentee success Though without the Backing you've no chance off Competing (I know that only too well @Arsenal) at the Highest level , the Chelsea team he inherited was Good but Certanily not the Finished Article , and it was That Poor side you Mention Monaco that beat them in the Semi to face Maurinho's Porto in the Final !! He brought Drogba And Carvalio which added to what he had and his way off getting the best out off players turned Chelsea From also Ryan's to Winners ! As for this yr at Real yes there struggling but that's life you can't always get it right . . . After 3 yrs at Old Trafford most fans where calling for Ferguson to be Sacked , so with Porto he Conquered Europe , Chelsea became firmly Established as Winners under him , Inter Milan won A Treble under him and in Spain he De-Throned probably the Finest team off our Generation . . . His record throughout Europe isn't Equalled at Club Level by Ferguson or Who-ever you care to mention ! Feck it, your probably right pal, but it's like comparing the likes of Messi and Ronaldo - One might be better than the other but they are both head and shoulders above all the rest and you'd love either at your club at this moment in time! Merry Christmas! folded............... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 Malt Your Wrong for starters he hasn't won 3 European cups , he Never won it with Aberdeen , it was the Cup winners cup , you talk about FINE MARGINS well look at the 2 European cups he has won Bayern Munich played United off the Park in his 1st win and a certain Mr Terry Slipped when taking a Penalty to Win it for Chelsea so Fine Margins/Luck is needed to win any Trophy . Yes Mauriiho had Abramovichs Backing , like Ferguson has had the Backing from the Board at Old Trafford !! Spending money doesn't Guarentee success Though without the Backing you've no chance off Competing (I know that only too well @Arsenal) at the Highest level , the Chelsea team he inherited was Good but Certanily not the Finished Article , and it was That Poor side you Mention Monaco that beat them in the Semi to face Maurinho's Porto in the Final !! He brought Drogba And Carvalio which added to what he had and his way off getting the best out off players turned Chelsea From also Ryan's to Winners ! As for this yr at Real yes there struggling but that's life you can't always get it right . . . After 3 yrs at Old Trafford most fans where calling for Ferguson to be Sacked , so with Porto he Conquered Europe , Chelsea became firmly Established as Winners under him , Inter Milan won A Treble under him and in Spain he De-Throned probably the Finest team off our Generation . . . His record throughout Europe isn't Equalled at Club Level by Ferguson or Who-ever you care to mention ! Feck it, your probably right pal, but it's like comparing the likes of Messi and Ronaldo - One might be better than the other but they are both head and shoulders above all the rest and you'd love either at your club at this moment in time! Merry Christmas! folded............... put your f*****g big spoon away you! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lanesra 3,994 Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 Malt Your Wrong for starters he hasn't won 3 European cups , he Never won it with Aberdeen , it was the Cup winners cup , you talk about FINE MARGINS well look at the 2 European cups he has won Bayern Munich played United off the Park in his 1st win and a certain Mr Terry Slipped when taking a Penalty to Win it for Chelsea so Fine Margins/Luck is needed to win any Trophy . Yes Mauriiho had Abramovichs Backing , like Ferguson has had the Backing from the Board at Old Trafford !! Spending money doesn't Guarentee success Though without the Backing you've no chance off Competing (I know that only too well @Arsenal) at the Highest level , the Chelsea team he inherited was Good but Certanily not the Finished Article , and it was That Poor side you Mention Monaco that beat them in the Semi to face Maurinho's Porto in the Final !! He brought Drogba And Carvalio which added to what he had and his way off getting the best out off players turned Chelsea From also Ryan's to Winners ! As for this yr at Real yes there struggling but that's life you can't always get it right . . . After 3 yrs at Old Trafford most fans where calling for Ferguson to be Sacked , so with Porto he Conquered Europe , Chelsea became firmly Established as Winners under him , Inter Milan won A Treble under him and in Spain he De-Throned probably the Finest team off our Generation . . . His record throughout Europe isn't Equalled at Club Level by Ferguson or Who-ever you care to mention ! Feck it, your probably right pal, but it's like comparing the likes of Messi and Ronaldo - One might be better than the other but they are both head and shoulders above all the rest and you'd love either at your club at this moment in time! Merry Christmas! folded............... Agree Malt , and you haven't Folded . . . I'll take a Draw !! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stewie 3,387 Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 Malt Your Wrong for starters he hasn't won 3 European cups , he Never won it with Aberdeen , it was the Cup winners cup , you talk about FINE MARGINS well look at the 2 European cups he has won Bayern Munich played United off the Park in his 1st win and a certain Mr Terry Slipped when taking a Penalty to Win it for Chelsea so Fine Margins/Luck is needed to win any Trophy . Yes Mauriiho had Abramovichs Backing , like Ferguson has had the Backing from the Board at Old Trafford !! Spending money doesn't Guarentee success Though without the Backing you've no chance off Competing (I know that only too well @Arsenal) at the Highest level , the Chelsea team he inherited was Good but Certanily not the Finished Article , and it was That Poor side you Mention Monaco that beat them in the Semi to face Maurinho's Porto in the Final !! He brought Drogba And Carvalio which added to what he had and his way off getting the best out off players turned Chelsea From also Ryan's to Winners ! As for this yr at Real yes there struggling but that's life you can't always get it right . . . After 3 yrs at Old Trafford most fans where calling for Ferguson to be Sacked , so with Porto he Conquered Europe , Chelsea became firmly Established as Winners under him , Inter Milan won A Treble under him and in Spain he De-Throned probably the Finest team off our Generation . . . His record throughout Europe isn't Equalled at Club Level by Ferguson or Who-ever you care to mention ! Feck it, your probably right pal, but it's like comparing the likes of Messi and Ronaldo - One might be better than the other but they are both head and shoulders above all the rest and you'd love either at your club at this moment in time! Merry Christmas! folded............... Agree Malt , and you haven't Folded . . . I'll take a Draw !! see thats where you mancs and gooners get on..........folding............ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twobob 1,497 Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 Malt Your Wrong for starters he hasn't won 3 European cups , he Never won it with Aberdeen , it was the Cup winners cup , you talk about FINE MARGINS well look at the 2 European cups he has won Bayern Munich played United off the Park in his 1st win and a certain Mr Terry Slipped when taking a Penalty to Win it for Chelsea so Fine Margins/Luck is needed to win any Trophy . Yes Mauriiho had Abramovichs Backing , like Ferguson has had the Backing from the Board at Old Trafford !! Spending money doesn't Guarentee success Though without the Backing you've no chance off Competing (I know that only too well @Arsenal) at the Highest level , the Chelsea team he inherited was Good but Certanily not the Finished Article , and it was That Poor side you Mention Monaco that beat them in the Semi to face Maurinho's Porto in the Final !! He brought Drogba And Carvalio which added to what he had and his way off getting the best out off players turned Chelsea From also Ryan's to Winners ! As for this yr at Real yes there struggling but that's life you can't always get it right . . . After 3 yrs at Old Trafford most fans where calling for Ferguson to be Sacked , so with Porto he Conquered Europe , Chelsea became firmly Established as Winners under him , Inter Milan won A Treble under him and in Spain he De-Throned probably the Finest team off our Generation . . . His record throughout Europe isn't Equalled at Club Level by Ferguson or Who-ever you care to mention ! Feck it, your probably right pal, but it's like comparing the likes of Messi and Ronaldo - One might be better than the other but they are both head and shoulders above all the rest and you'd love either at your club at this moment in time! Merry Christmas! folded............... Agree Malt , and you haven't Folded . . . I'll take a Draw !! dont take the draw he will be back with fergie time 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bracken boy 584 Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 so many biased idiots talking bout rubbish, if a utd player had done it lets say rooney you lot would have wanted him hung, if you cant see how dangerous it was then its specsaver you need, look it may not be the best man utd team same for last 3 years but we will be there trying for the title. fair play to swansea i love watching them 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stewie 3,387 Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 so many biased idiots talking bout rubbish, if a utd player had done it lets say rooney you lot would have wanted him hung, if you cant see how dangerous it was then its specsaver you need, look it may not be the best man utd team same for last 3 years but we will be there trying for the title. fair play to swansea i love watching them was it as bad as keane on hangeland?? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
budharley 945 Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 lets face it if a utd player did it and fergie said nowt wrong with that he would be a Tw*t , if fergie says it was a bad challange hes a Tw*t if he says it could of killed him (bit over the top mind ) hes a Tw*t . The lets all hate man utd because there so successfull brigade will always think hes a tw*t but not one and i mean not one person would ever turn round and say im not happy with are new manager sir alex you would feckin love it (lets hope you never get the chance ) come on united 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 so many biased idiots talking bout rubbish, if a utd player had done it lets say rooney you lot would have wanted him hung, if you cant see how dangerous it was then its specsaver you need, look it may not be the best man utd team same for last 3 years but we will be there trying for the title. fair play to swansea i love watching them was it as bad as keane on hangeland?? Thats what happens when you try and make a fool of Keane.......... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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