coley8624 1 Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 I have a crosman phantom in .22 and I use it every wednesday at my local gun club and for the past 4 weeks I have been trying to zero it in but whenever I take a three shot group whilst aiming at the bullseye the three shots seem to end up in completely different places. Does any have any advice about what to do? 1 Quote Link to post
The one 8,511 Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 Checked the mounts are tight ?. Quote Link to post
Mawders 595 Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 Check all screws such as mount screws, stock screws and arrested pins. Failing that can you try a different scope? If that's fine why not try a barrel clean and see if that helps. Has the barrel taken a hard knock to your knowledge and slightly bent it? Quote Link to post
davyt63 1,845 Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 hi buddy dont know much about this rifle,but the reviews are pretty good? and i do know a little about shooting spring rifles your scope mounts only need to be be hand tight,dont over tighten them,as this will crush the tube! spring rifles can be frustrating to shoot buddy,but when it all falls together its pure magic and if you are continuing to shoot while frustrated then my friend you will never win! what range are you zeroed at? when you say they land in different places,are they clover leaf type? when did you last clean your barrle? what pellets are you using? are you consistent in follow through,hold,stability? could your scope be canted? there has to be some one at your club who could shoot it as well,and you can compare? it might just be your technique? let us know how you get on buddy,and merry Christmas! Quote Link to post
Elmer_Fudd 28 Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 Scope canted? Quote Link to post
Mawders 595 Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 Not lined up properly, as in not quite straight when you look down the scope. Quote Link to post
Gavlar 0 Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 I appreciate I only have a low post count here but I have been shooting for some years so here's my tuppence worth.... Mounts need to be tight, particularly on a spring gun. Arrestor pin fitted. Everything else tight. Could possibly be a dodgy scope, could you try another one? Cant and scope alignment will have no effect on grouping at any given distance. There are loads of variables, is it pellet fussy, is it clipping( if a mod is fitted), has the crown been damaged? Do you have experience with a springer? If not, give it to someone who has to try. If they can group well with it you may simply need to learn technique. Good luck. Quote Link to post
Danny7299 0 Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 As above I agree that you should check the scope but have you also tried a different pellet ? I found in my air rifle that anything with a pointed pellet didn't group very well Has is just started to go inaccurate ? If so can you think back to if anything has changed ? How inaccurate are we talking ? A few mm or a few feet lol Hope you get it sorted soon , Quote Link to post
davyt63 1,845 Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 I appreciate I only have a low post count here but I have been shooting for some years so here's my tuppence worth.... Mounts need to be Finger tight, particularly on a spring gun. Arrestor pin fitted. Everything else tight. Could possibly be a dodgy scope, could you try another one? Cant and scope alignment will have no effect on grouping at any given distance. There are loads of variables, is it pellet fussy, is it clipping( if a mod is fitted), has the crown been damaged? Do you have experience with a springer? If not, give it to someone who has to try. If they can group well with it you may simply need to learn technique. Good luck. hi welcome to THL Gavlar but would suggest you explain totally on "tight",as you being an experienced spring rifle shooter ,then you know not to over tighten the mounts. what a lot of new shooters wont understand is that "tight" it will crush the tube,and feck up the scope. and all what is needed is to finger tighten them,then check them once finished and before you use your spring rifle again simple school boy error can lead to inaccuracy Quote Link to post
AR177 588 Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 Your not resting the rifle are you? Or attempting to shoot from a bipod? Springers don't react well to that! ATB Adam 1 Quote Link to post
Skot Ruthless Teale 1,701 Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 (edited) have you checked the focus on your scope for parralax error. or try another scope.? also it could be your pellets. for example my hw97kt was going allover the place im talking 2-3inch grouping at 35yds with Daystate Li pellets, but with JSB exact its half inch - 1inch at 35 yds..... also no offence but get a couple of other good shooters to have a go, i dont know the level of skill you have at shooting you might be good or bad. like i said no offence if your a good shot. Edited December 25, 2012 by Skot Ruthless Teale 1 Quote Link to post
ghillies 209 Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 strip down clean re-asemble put some new pellets through... Quote Link to post
barrywhite 282 Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 bad pellets ..loose scope ..loose barrel ...loose gun in stock...inside of scope loose ..action not shooting consistently pellet speed varies...the way you hold and shoot the gun is incorrect ...dirty barrel ..damaged barrel crown .. also a bad trigger .there may be more reasons . Quote Link to post
Lusomage 9 Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 Try holding the rifle really lightly, spring guns need to be allowed to recoil forwards and backwards. Its qurie hit and miss (quite litrally). Watch this, it will teach you how to hold a springer correctly, really helped me. ATB Jamie Quote Link to post
Tron 173 Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 I have not responded to the opening post because most of the guys replies have been factual and well thought out. however why dosent the owner ask his fellow club members to try the rifle? personally I believe as asked by others that it could be parallax related. many scopes are adjusted for 100 yards POI. Quote Link to post
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