mega moocher 20 Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 russels are very good dogs to bolt foxes and their the best ratters aswell Quote Link to post
Attack Fell Terrier 864 Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Regardless of breed get the best bred pup you can get your hands on mate. Make sure that the parents are decent workers and get out with the lad who's bred the litter if it is at all possible! Quote Link to post
bundy 6 Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 I'd say fell types myself had borders n odd russels d j lines borders were dandyhow lines but I found them lacking each to there own a good dog is never a bad colour atb bundy Quote Link to post
Moorman 1 1,343 Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 im going to disagree to a certain exstent ,.......yes there are hard russells ,........yes there are hard patterdales / fells.......... yes there are clever dogs on all breeds ,......but maybe i have not seen enough as ive not been doing much terrier work but the majority of hard dogs i have seen have been patterdales ,.........there is alot of bull blood in the mix ,...............yes there is added bull blood in jack russells ,...............but in the old strain jack russells which are a small breed and havent got no bull blood in ,...hence the size of these little dogs................and they dont tend to be as hard as these patterdales............. times are changing and you go to a show and look at the jack russell class and there these big muscular dogs with obvious bull blood in and then you will see a old strain jack russell thrown in and it really does look like its in the wrong class..............and of course the big stronger looking russells with obvious alien blood win............ times are changing and so are the strain of russells in my honest opionion and these old strain russells are just small and noisey and bolt foxes ,.............im not saying patterdales wont bolt foxes but you do get some not so hard ones which are used to bolt...............but as a whole and what im saying is every dog is different but i would say the old type russells are not as hard as todays patterdales.............and i would put that down to all the added bull blood..........just my honest opionion i find the old russells to work clever and i would work this breed to bolt foxes more than patterdales but i have seen good patterdales that just yap and work well to bolt foxes....... but i will stand by my exspereince and say that patterdales are generally a harder dog than your old russell type dogs.............. Thats because a lot of the bigger more muscular russells that you see at shows theses days are white lakeys and thats why they are harder than your older Russell types. Quote Link to post
dpb82uk 138 Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 get a breed you like and you think will sute you and how you hunt i red up on all terriers [BANNED TEXT] i got 1 but its still moor pot luck with any breed on its work stile or if it dus the jobs you got for from what iv red Quote Link to post
fredofrog 9 Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 A jack Russell isn't hard there bolting dogs. These white dogs that are hard types have bull and lakey in them. whippet 99 bull blood is not the only blood that makes terriers hard. fell type dogs are hard dogs for killing in the rocks. Patterdales , borders , lakeys are hard dogs without bull blood added. Quote Link to post
geordie1965 3 Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 no right or wrong when picking a terrier to work as long as the breeding is up to the job you wish to do, worked both russell and fell x currently working bedlington found only difference that beddie has started a bit slower Quote Link to post
Dig-deep-draw-charlie 2,713 Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 doesnt matter what breed it is mate, but i personaly would say a russell is your best bet! if ya want something for bolting just avoid anything with bull in it! lol Quote Link to post
bud9 79 Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 I am a young lad and interested in earth dogs, i was just wondering what people thought was the best breed for both ratting and bolting foxes. any terrier thats not head strong will be a good dog to start off with Quote Link to post
s.e.s.k.u 1,893 Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Some total shite on here regarding how hard pat's are and how russels only bolt a fox bla bla bla ..... Im not disputing the pats working ability more disagreeing with the generalisation that white dogs are soft little yappers lol. Quote Link to post
whippet 99 2,613 Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 If your wanting your dog to bolt the foxes you dont want a too headstrong breed like patterdales, id recommend a russel mate good all rounders Some russels are more headstrong than patts, I don't really think it matters too much as to what breed it is, most important is its from good working stock. depends what strain ,..................alot of these modern russells are huge with obvious alien blood in them and usually bull .......... the small type old strain russells make great bolting dogs Quote Link to post
alfie.t 7 Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 the best dog is the one that suits you depending on what you hunt and the standards you set for your terriers 2 Quote Link to post
tillearthdouspart 100 Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 I think the majority of us would say Russell but good working Russell are harder to come by than say the pat. Quote Link to post
tillearthdouspart 100 Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 I think you would go through less Patterdale than any other breed to get a worker now that's just my opinion and through my experience. That's what I'm trying say lads. 2 Quote Link to post
Dig-deep-draw-charlie 2,713 Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 I have had all breeds of terrier mate! Just trying to find the right breed for me!, then my mate got me a wee Russell bitch, would of saved alot of time and money if i had if got her at the start lol. My opinion is most pats around have a lot if bull blood in them, so they just charge in and go to town, then after the day they are of to the sick bay, I like a terrier with abit if brain and not all skull, nice to work ur terrier again and again, so research first mate that's where I slipped up, font even know how to put a pic of her up or I would. Quote Link to post
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