chartpolski 23,304 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 Deerhound, greyhound and collie in the mix will make a nice Lurcher. If they didn't often throw big I would have one. Yes they will; but if you thought you were buying a Deer/Grey that would be the size you were after, only to find out you'd got a Collie x, you might just feel a litle aggrieved ! Cheers. Quote Link to post
gibbo1973 187 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 dont think size matters mate big dogs can catch the smallest of quarries,they get down really well shes 27" and turns well too Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 It's f****n 2012 boys! Why in the world are folks still talkin bout first cross shit. Doesnt make a damn bit of sense. Well Dan; I brought in a 1st cross Deer/Grey to do a specific job that my 23" lurcher was having a struggle with. She does the job EXACTLY as I wanted. Why didn't I go for a Lurcher x Lurcher to do the job, I hear you ask; well, it may be different where you are, but there are a lot of breeders here who will simply tell you what you want to hear !! I know someone who bought a "Line bred Deer/Grey x", and when it only made 24", they went back to the breeder, who told them; "Oh, I forgot ! There is also Collie in the line" !! Getting a 1st x, you at least have a good idea what they will turn out like !! And if they are doing the job they were bred and brought in for, that will do for me !! Cheers. So you are sayin that a person who brees this first cross cant lie to you also? Quote Link to post
chartpolski 23,304 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 It's f****n 2012 boys! Why in the world are folks still talkin bout first cross shit. Doesnt make a damn bit of sense. Well Dan; I brought in a 1st cross Deer/Grey to do a specific job that my 23" lurcher was having a struggle with. She does the job EXACTLY as I wanted. Why didn't I go for a Lurcher x Lurcher to do the job, I hear you ask; well, it may be different where you are, but there are a lot of breeders here who will simply tell you what you want to hear !! I know someone who bought a "Line bred Deer/Grey x", and when it only made 24", they went back to the breeder, who told them; "Oh, I forgot ! There is also Collie in the line" !! Getting a 1st x, you at least have a good idea what they will turn out like !! And if they are doing the job they were bred and brought in for, that will do for me !! Cheers. So you are sayin that a person who brees this first cross cant lie to you also? No. That happens also, but if you know the guy and see the parents, you have a fair chance !! Cheers. Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 (edited) So if you lived near me and seen my male dog and my female take game consistantly would you want a pup off them? Or would they not be good enough cuz they are NOT a genuine half cross deer grey? Edited to put the not in there. Edited December 23, 2012 by Dan Edwards Quote Link to post
DeerhoundLurcherMan 997 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 Whats the problem if somone wants a first x? Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 Take for example the male dog on the right and the yella gyp. They are mongrels but they aint bad for being mutts. 1 Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 (edited) Whats the problem if somone wants a first x? I think it's silly to breed two dogs together that cant do what you are wanting the offspring to do and thats 99% of what first crosses are. Edit to say that now if you show me a greyhound that can consistently catch the hares over there on the fens and a deerhound that can consitantly pull down fallow bucks then I'm all in for a that litter of first crosses. Edited December 23, 2012 by Dan Edwards Quote Link to post
lewyboy 11 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 (edited) my mates dhxgh Edited December 23, 2012 by lewyboy Quote Link to post
chartpolski 23,304 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 So if you lived near me and seen my male dog and my female take game consistantly would you want a pup off them? Or would they not be good enough cuz they are a genuine half cross deer grey? If I saw your dogs doing what I wanted, then of course I'd want one ! What you need to understand Dan, is that there is, I bet, far more Lurcher breeders and workers, PER CAPITA, here in the UK than there is in the 'States. Everyone and his brother are breeding shit !! A guy gets a bitch of his mate, who has been told it's bred one way and he breeds it with a dog he's got from the pound, and then advertises them as somthing that they aren't !! All I'm saying, is if I get a dog from genuine parents, say a Deerhound and a Greyhound; at least I have a good idea what it will be ! I also have a Lurcher x Lurcher in my kennel, and have owned pures, and crosses of many types, but in this instance I wanted a dog to do a job, and the 1st x Deer/Grey fitted the job. Cheers. 1 Quote Link to post
reddawn 2,173 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 i tried 1 an yes it caught smaller game, but not as good as a smaller dog an if its big game ye are or were after(before the ban, or abroad) then there are definalty smaller dogs, 23/24/25/26 that can an do catch the same species as the bigger deerhoundx, only reason i can think of folk keeping deerhoundx's over other types of lurchers is they like the type, an nowt to do with work. i liked the deerhound attitude, but if i was ever to have another it would deffo be an deerhound type lurcher x deerhound type lurcher, as the 1st x an even most of teh 3/4 breds are just too big Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 So if you lived near me and seen my male dog and my female take game consistantly would you want a pup off them? Or would they not be good enough cuz they are a genuine half cross deer grey? If I saw your dogs doing what I wanted, then of course I'd want one ! What you need to understand Dan, is that there is, I bet, far more Lurcher breeders and workers, PER CAPITA, here in the UK than there is in the 'States. Everyone and his brother are breeding shit !! A guy gets a bitch of his mate, who has been told it's bred one way and he breeds it with a dog he's got from the pound, and then advertises them as somthing that they aren't !! All I'm saying, is if I get a dog from genuine parents, say a Deerhound and a Greyhound; at least I have a good idea what it will be ! I also have a Lurcher x Lurcher in my kennel, and have owned pures, and crosses of many types, but in this instance I wanted a dog to do a job, and the 1st x Deer/Grey fitted the job. Cheers. Fair enough. Now go breed that bitch to one of them coursing bulls and STFU. HAHA! 2 Quote Link to post
chartpolski 23,304 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 So if you lived near me and seen my male dog and my female take game consistantly would you want a pup off them? Or would they not be good enough cuz they are a genuine half cross deer grey? If I saw your dogs doing what I wanted, then of course I'd want one ! What you need to understand Dan, is that there is, I bet, far more Lurcher breeders and workers, PER CAPITA, here in the UK than there is in the 'States. Everyone and his brother are breeding shit !! A guy gets a bitch of his mate, who has been told it's bred one way and he breeds it with a dog he's got from the pound, and then advertises them as somthing that they aren't !! All I'm saying, is if I get a dog from genuine parents, say a Deerhound and a Greyhound; at least I have a good idea what it will be ! I also have a Lurcher x Lurcher in my kennel, and have owned pures, and crosses of many types, but in this instance I wanted a dog to do a job, and the 1st x Deer/Grey fitted the job. Cheers. Fair enough. Now go breed that bitch to one of them coursing bulls and STFU. HAHA! I am yet to be convinced of the attributes of the Coursin'Bull !! LOL !! And you didn't answer my question; is Boise your nearest airport ?? Cheers. Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 So if you lived near me and seen my male dog and my female take game consistantly would you want a pup off them? Or would they not be good enough cuz they are a genuine half cross deer grey? If I saw your dogs doing what I wanted, then of course I'd want one ! What you need to understand Dan, is that there is, I bet, far more Lurcher breeders and workers, PER CAPITA, here in the UK than there is in the 'States. Everyone and his brother are breeding shit !! A guy gets a bitch of his mate, who has been told it's bred one way and he breeds it with a dog he's got from the pound, and then advertises them as somthing that they aren't !! All I'm saying, is if I get a dog from genuine parents, say a Deerhound and a Greyhound; at least I have a good idea what it will be ! I also have a Lurcher x Lurcher in my kennel, and have owned pures, and crosses of many types, but in this instance I wanted a dog to do a job, and the 1st x Deer/Grey fitted the job. Cheers. Fair enough. Now go breed that bitch to one of them coursing bulls and STFU. HAHA! I am yet to be convinced of the attributes of the Coursin'Bull !! LOL !! And you didn't answer my question; is Boise your nearest airport ?? Cheers. Look again ya ole cuni. How many times I gotta tell you I live in Illinois and the crossbreed and the stunt faggot live in Idaho? 1 Quote Link to post
chartpolski 23,304 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 So if you lived near me and seen my male dog and my female take game consistantly would you want a pup off them? Or would they not be good enough cuz they are a genuine half cross deer grey? If I saw your dogs doing what I wanted, then of course I'd want one ! What you need to understand Dan, is that there is, I bet, far more Lurcher breeders and workers, PER CAPITA, here in the UK than there is in the 'States. Everyone and his brother are breeding shit !! A guy gets a bitch of his mate, who has been told it's bred one way and he breeds it with a dog he's got from the pound, and then advertises them as somthing that they aren't !! All I'm saying, is if I get a dog from genuine parents, say a Deerhound and a Greyhound; at least I have a good idea what it will be ! I also have a Lurcher x Lurcher in my kennel, and have owned pures, and crosses of many types, but in this instance I wanted a dog to do a job, and the 1st x Deer/Grey fitted the job. Cheers. Fair enough. Now go breed that bitch to one of them coursing bulls and STFU. HAHA! I am yet to be convinced of the attributes of the Coursin'Bull !! LOL !! And you didn't answer my question; is Boise your nearest airport ?? Cheers. Look again ya ole cuni. How many times I gotta tell you I live in Illinois and the crossbreed and the stunt faggot live in Idaho? OK you redneck hillbilly !! Is it Bloomington ? Cheers. Quote Link to post
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