brindle patterdale

[Aussie Whip 4,237]

41 minutes ago, Mixedgrill said:

Staffadale

Used in South Africa for digging warthogs.

[BIG TRG 785]

Had a bitch here never lasted long, when the pressure was on it would reverse, no use to man nor beast 

[Daniel cain 47,103]

seen a few go.....nothing special 

[Apache... 2,588]

Are them two related TRG?

[dillydog 8,514]

What proof is there that EVERY Patterdale has bull in the mix ?

I've personally owned two Lakeland x bulls,  stone mad and as much use as tits on a fish.

[Apache... 2,588]

I bred a brindle pup out of two blacks a good while back and I know for sure the grandmother of the pup had bull in it, don't know how it turned out.

[BIG TRG 785]

6 hours ago, Apache... said:

Are them two related TRG?

100% not that’s an insult to the black bitch brindle Bitch walked when the going got tough after an easy first season, black bitch died at 5 doing what there bred for after 4 loyal years of graft. 

[Apache... 2,588]

My sincere apologies to the black bitch how dare I , did you know the origin of the brindle.

[Elchapo 3,172]

On 22/12/2012 at 15:42, Moorside said:

Too much bull on this forum. Too big...and take too much punishment in general. No good.

How’s your bull x doing

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Patterdale? Lol

. imo is just like any good line/type..may that be black white chocs or even a different variation..not really a breed per say .

because lets be honest they will be when looked back far enough a mix of a lot of things from a long time ago.. 

if it's a well established line they will be breeding to type as in first and foremost work, then after a while they all start looking like peas in a pod if done correctly...

for example if 30 years ago you were into terriers and you were at a show you could tell a gould terrier..not a diluted orange juice that the masses were producing back then forget about the rose tinted glasses its the same in 2019 as it was in 1999 ...but real stuff from kens yard.. you could tell..

same as nuttalls.. but to be honest in NI in them days  me personally didn't dig or hear much of nuttalls.. until later.

long story short...if you know the history of the proper line from the genuine stuff...

you could be at a dog show lets say.. a fella walks past who you don't know from adam  he has a terrier just by looks and confirmation 9/10  you could stop him and say nice terrier it looks like a such and such and it ends up he mixes in the same sort of  circle but maybe will be the other end of the country or different country.

, and in the end up  it will be a brother sister cousin or same lines but with different men going in different directions but still keeping it close....  meaning same genetics just it seems in the right circles its a need to know basis with folks I know...no flapping gums about folk.. unless you need to know...

As for bull in ALL patterdales as you call them dilly...

the ones I know that are doing the work well to a standard consistently  every time and reproducing the same...have bull in them... but haven't had an actual bull in the line since the first initial x back at the big bang theory lol...

 

[Rabbit Hunter 6,613]

I’d imagine it’s easy to look back and say Gould had a type back then, but surely the older men of that era would have looked at Gould’s dogs and said ‘can see the Stacey and Cowan (for example) stuff in them’.I don’t think a type or style of terrier is appreciated until a couple of decades have passed and you see it all come together further down the line.

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11 hours ago, Apache... said:

My sincere apologies to the black bitch how dare I , did you know the origin of the brindle.

There was staff in it not far down the line mate, done it no good. 

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On 20/05/2019 at 08:27, Rabbit Hunter said:

I’d imagine it’s easy to look back and say Gould had a type back then, but surely the older men of that era would have looked at Gould’s dogs and said ‘can see the Stacey and Cowan (for example) stuff in them’.I don’t think a type or style of terrier is appreciated until a couple of decades have passed and you see it all come together further down the line.

Ok.. but my post in a cryptic way was saying more like... the men that myself and you mentioned, we're breeding terriers more than working them...they were NOT testing them their selves. lets be honest and selling them.. so decades later good men now a days you couldn't buy a terrier from them... so if you can't buy.. and your walking past a clone of your own terriers at a show...??

 

[sambo123 676]

On 19/05/2019 at 19:14, BIG TRG said:

100% not that’s an insult to the black bitch brindle Bitch walked when the going got tough after an easy first season, black bitch died at 5 doing what there bred for after 4 loyal years of graft. 

Tough guy terrier comments on here are hilarious. "Walked when the going got tough" you fight a fox underground lets see how tough you are

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12 hours ago, sambo123 said:

Tough guy terrier comments on here are hilarious. "Walked when the going got tough" you fight a fox underground lets see how tough you are

It’s no the terriers job to fight it fella, just hold it there for aslong as it takes to dig it, but it didn’t have it in the dog to tango when the pressure got put on it, educate yourself a bit then come back with yer shite patter