rothor 14 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 I'd like to see those dogs, but rather not bring them cuties up... I'm confident there will be plenty of grit! Quote Link to post
jawn 449 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 That's funny as hell Mister! I guess it's hard to immagine an uglier cross. I don't think any of us are holding out much hope that they will be any fun to look at.LMAO But I wonder if they will retain the versatility. I haven't felt the need to cross breed since I started hunting the jagd. But this particular cross has been nagging at a few of us for a couple of years now. I bet they pull some fur... and if one or two point? Could be a useful dog. Quote Link to post
Jachtterrier 50 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 That's funny as hell Mister! I guess it's hard to immagine an uglier cross. I don't think any of us are holding out much hope that they will be any fun to look at.LMAO But I wonder if they will retain the versatility. I haven't felt the need to cross breed since I started hunting the jagd. But this particular cross has been nagging at a few of us for a couple of years now. I bet they pull some fur... and if one or two point? Could be a useful dog. i have seen some drathaar x jagd crosses.. good looking dogs but nothing special to see.. in size they where just a bit smaller then a drathaar, so why should you cross them. a drathaar dont need anything from a jagd to make him a good pig dog. Quote Link to post
erik 71 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 to give them a bit more speed and to make them a bit calmer 1 Quote Link to post
jawn 449 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 No drahthaars make great pig dogs, but there is a whole list of things that COULD be gained from the cross. I think adding terrier would increase the drive and likely push the dogs out further in search of game. Drahthaars are great about sticking with a track once thery're on it, but I think going to the jagd would decrease some of the connection with the hunter resulting in a dog that would push out further. It would probably result in a dog that is bigger and stronger than the terrier with a ton of hunt. I think they could help stop runners that sometimes give the terriers trouble. I bet they would pick up scent way differently than the terriers and one or two in a litter might be a pretty good combination of the two breeds. No guarantees of-course but their never are. I guess the biggest reasons are because we can, it'll probably produce dogs that work better in certain situations... and well... it just sounds like fun.lol The size could be brought down by going to a female jagd I think. I'd sure like to see some pictures of the dogs you know of if they exist. I've never seen one. Quote Link to post
Jachtterrier 50 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 No drahthaars make great pig dogs, but there is a whole list of things that COULD be gained from the cross. I think adding terrier would increase the drive and likely push the dogs out further in search of game. Drahthaars are great about sticking with a track once thery're on it, but I think going to the jagd would decrease some of the connection with the hunter resulting in a dog that would push out further. It would probably result in a dog that is bigger and stronger than the terrier with a ton of hunt. I think they could help stop runners that sometimes give the terriers trouble. I bet they would pick up scent way differently than the terriers and one or two in a litter might be a pretty good combination of the two breeds. No guarantees of-course but their never are. I guess the biggest reasons are because we can, it'll probably produce dogs that work better in certain situations... and well... it just sounds like fun.lol The size could be brought down by going to a female jagd I think. I'd sure like to see some pictures of the dogs you know of if they exist. I've never seen one. dont't have any pictures of it. have seen him by a pig hunter with about 40 dogs, jagds, drathaars only. i asked about the cross but he said it was nothing special. i think the dog was about 20 kilo's, long legs and ditnt look verry strong, dont think they will stop a runner but depending on the dogs you will use to make the cross with they can be good dogs i think and the cross can look mutch different than the cross i have seen 1 Quote Link to post
rothor 14 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 No drahthaars make great pig dogs, but there is a whole list of things that COULD be gained from the cross. I think adding terrier would increase the drive and likely push the dogs out further in search of game. Drahthaars are great about sticking with a track once thery're on it, but I think going to the jagd would decrease some of the connection with the hunter resulting in a dog that would push out further. It would probably result in a dog that is bigger and stronger than the terrier with a ton of hunt. I think they could help stop runners that sometimes give the terriers trouble. I bet they would pick up scent way differently than the terriers and one or two in a litter might be a pretty good combination of the two breeds. No guarantees of-course but their never are. I guess the biggest reasons are because we can, it'll probably produce dogs that work better in certain situations... and well... it just sounds like fun.lol The size could be brought down by going to a female jagd I think. I'd sure like to see some pictures of the dogs you know of if they exist. I've never seen one. I can see your point jawn, if you reach all the good points, but don't have the knowledge to judge it. But I wonder, aren't there allready drahthaars that push out a bit further? And I'm sure there are pretty tough drahts out there. But I'm not too shure anyone ever wanted them. Not untill now... On the other hand, its not very difficult to find GHT's that are high, too high according to the standard, with very good noses... But I must admit, it doesn't sound as fun... Quote Link to post
jawn 449 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 I think there probably are longer ranged DDs.. But it is discouraged here. Most hunt them under a shotgun and can't have them taking off after God knows what.lol It's like your terrier. If I remember right he pushes for around an hour then returns. It's this kind of hunt combined with a little more leg and strength that could make a heck of a nice dog to hunt behind. Now take the brains of the dumbest drahthaar and add that to winding ability and you might have some improvement over most GHTs. I have some terriers that I think are pretty damn smart. But they are terriers at the end of the day. Most of mine are pretty small too/ I like both breeds allot. The terriers are like grunts. I like them best because like Dan said earlier... you cut them loose and chances are... something's gonna happen. I like the DD in that it is a versatile as the GHT and really is gritty enough to get the job done in nearly every circumstance. But there are times where something in the middle might be good. At the end of the day it's something that quite a few of us over here are wondering about, so why not see what comes of it. Quote Link to post
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