TOUCHY SUBJECT-burglars+shotgun=life sentance?

[PLEDGEY 496]

Not to p*ss on anyone's chips here but it's well known our outstanding boys and girls in blue often read these sites and posts so if you are a fire arms or shotgun cert holder it probably isn't a great idea to talk about when and how you would shoot someone if they broke into your home.

 

Not unless you fancy a knock at the door in the near future.

 

Me I would defend my home and family with my last breath but that wouldn't involve shooting someone,

 

ATB

Plus, any 'antis' reading this will be saying ''See, a load of killers in the makeing, guns should be banned!!!''.

[j j m 6,539]

I'd shoot them to protect my family I wouldn't think twice

[Ned Kelly 5]

lot rambo types on here

[neil82 1,080]

law is clear on this, always has been, if you think that you, or any guest in your home is in danger, then you can use any reasonable force to defend yourselves from intruders, if the choice is a feather duster or a shotgun as a form of defence then any court would accept it as reasonable that you blasted them with a 3" bb shot rather than tickled them

[gonetoearth 5,144]

One in the head second into the ceiling pronto warning shot and all that everdently looks better to the man in the wig peering down at you

[neil82 1,080]

Not to p*ss on anyone's chips here but it's well known our outstanding boys and girls in blue often read these sites and posts so if you are a fire arms or shotgun cert holder it probably isn't a great idea to talk about when and how you would shoot someone if they broke into your home.

 

Not unless you fancy a knock at the door in the near future.

 

Me I would defend my home and family with my last breath but that wouldn't involve shooting someone,

 

ATB

so do you think that any of them would be any use if you were in a situation where someone was entering your home and you thought you were at risk, by the time any of them turned up (if there was anyone on duty within a 10 mile radius) you would be toast, think that is something the government has accepted due to all the cutbacks they`ve made and have clarified the law to point out what you can or cannot do, major case law on this is Tony Martin, his big balls (and the only one) is he shot them when they were running away, if he had shot them inside his house it would have been `no problem`, and no bolocks about shouts or warning shots either, if you think you are at risk in your own home, take what ever steps you think neccessary

[Ned Kelly 5]

Not to p*ss on anyone's chips here but it's well known our outstanding boys and girls in blue often read these sites and posts so if you are a fire arms or shotgun cert holder it probably isn't a great idea to talk about when and how you would shoot someone if they broke into your home.

 

Not unless you fancy a knock at the door in the near future.

 

Me I would defend my home and family with my last breath but that wouldn't involve shooting someone,

 

ATB

so do you think that any of them would be any use if you were in a situation where someone was entering your home and you thought you were at risk, by the time any of them turned up (if there was anyone on duty within a 10 mile radius) you would be toast, think that is something the government has accepted due to all the cutbacks they`ve made and have clarified the law to point out what you can or cannot do, major case law on this is Tony Martin, his big balls (and the only one) is he shot them when they were running away, if he had shot them inside his house it would have been `no problem`, and no bolocks about shouts or warning shots either, if you think you are at risk in your own home, take what ever steps you think neccessary

think tony martin reloaded his gun and gave chase

[Born Hunter 17,763]

Not to mention it was an illegally held pump action 12g............... that he 'found' one day LOL

[Ned Kelly 5]

Not to mention it was an illegally held pump action 12g............... that he 'found' one day LOL

never heard that they should of kept him in

[The Seeker 3,048]

Not to p*ss on anyone's chips here but it's well known our outstanding boys and girls in blue often read these sites and posts so if you are a fire arms or shotgun cert holder it probably isn't a great idea to talk about when and how you would shoot someone if they broke into your home.

 

Not unless you fancy a knock at the door in the near future.

 

Me I would defend my home and family with my last breath but that wouldn't involve shooting someone,

 

ATB

so do you think that any of them would be any use if you were in a situation where someone was entering your home and you thought you were at risk, by the time any of them turned up (if there was anyone on duty within a 10 mile radius) you would be toast, think that is something the government has accepted due to all the cutbacks they`ve made and have clarified the law to point out what you can or cannot do, major case law on this is Tony Martin, his big balls (and the only one) is he shot them when they were running away, if he had shot them inside his house it would have been `no problem`, and no bolocks about shouts or warning shots either, if you think you are at risk in your own home, take what ever steps you think neccessary

 

I have already said like most people in that situation I would do what ever was needed to protect my family and keep them safe from harm, I personally dont think its wise to be on an open internet forum as a responsible FAC or SGC holder to be talking about how I would shoot somone in the face if they broke into my house or how I would try to cover it up.

If some feel comfortable to do that then crack on after all because we all have an avatar and a user name the Police could never connect us with the real world could they

 

ATB

[Born Hunter 17,763]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Martin_(farmer)

 

"Martin did not hold a valid Shotgun Certificate (licence), let alone the more restrictive Firearms Certificate he would have needed to posess the high-capacity pump-action Winchester shotgun."

[rob190364 2,594]

was having a convo with my girlfriend after i was reading about the couple who had charges dropped after shooting 2 burglurs.

 

i said to her would you shoot a burglar if they came in to the house, her answer point blank no under any circumstances ¡ ¡ ¡

 

NOW I LOOKED into law on wat is reasonable force but that leaves ( )a big margon.

 

so my question to yous is using a shotgun to protect yourself against per say 4 intruders reasonable force?

 

im not asking would you but do you think its reasonable force ?

 

this is only a question no one get upset if you have nothing sensible to say dont say it. please

presumably you ain't got kids then? for her to come out with that? for me, if there was a 1% chance they could harm my baby they would get it with both barrels and the consequences of that action would be secondary, simple as that.

[Brewman 1,192]

It all boils down to what is reasonable at the time which leaves a lot of scope to be hung out to dry by a prosecutor depending what you say.

Your actions have to be absolutely necessary at the time as well as proportionate to the threat.

Warning shots are aload of balls, that's one wasted and if your on the house and fire one where is it going? Do you fire at a stud wall or a ceiling, what about ricochets?

If you are justified in shooting someone then shoot don't fire a warning, the sight of a firearm is a warning in itself. It might not be practical to shout a warning either. You will be shitting yourself and the adrenalin will be through the roof. Pointing and perhaps shooting a person is totally different ball game than shooting an animal.

 

Most people are not trained armed police or soldiers so even if your actions are perceived to be excessive as long as it can be proven that your life/lives were in danger and that your intent was to use the minimum use of force then hopefully things should swing your way.

The issue somebody mentioned earlier on about having easy access to a firearm as in under your bed is easily explained by the fact you couldn't sleep and you were cleaning your gun as it helps you sleep;)

If ever involved give just the very least of an account until you have a solicitor, none of this macho bollocks about shooting until they're dead etc.

Shoot to stop the threat not to kill as you will go down for that.

Dont forget we are entitled to Human Rights just the same as criminals etc.

 

[rob190364 2,594]

It all boils down to what is reasonable at the time which leaves a lot of scope to be hung out to dry by a prosecutor depending what you say.

Your actions have to be absolutely necessary at the time as well as proportionate to the threat.

Warning shots are aload of balls, that's one wasted and if your on the house and fire one where is it going? Do you fire at a stud wall or a ceiling, what about ricochets?

If you are justified in shooting someone then shoot don't fire a warning, the sight of a firearm is a warning in itself. It might not be practical to shout a warning either. You will be shitting yourself and the adrenalin will be through the roof. Pointing and perhaps shooting a person is totally different ball game than shooting an animal.

 

Most people are not trained armed police or soldiers so even if your actions are perceived to be excessive as long as it can be proven that your life/lives were in danger and that your intent was to use the minimum use of force then hopefully things should swing your way.

The issue somebody mentioned earlier on about having easy access to a firearm as in under your bed is easily explained by the fact you couldn't sleep and you were cleaning your gun as it helps you sleep;)

If ever involved give just the very least of an account until you have a solicitor, none of this macho bollocks about shooting until they're dead etc.

Shoot to stop the threat not to kill as you will go down for that.

Dont forget we are entitled to Human Rights just the same as criminals etc.

if you live in a rough area and are therefore at risk of break ins couldn't it be seen as reasonable to keep a weapon to hand? the fact is most people have a kitchen (full of knives) around the back door area of their house, so chances are if someone broke in they'd do it at the back and have access to weapons straight away....so surely having your gun or whatever in your room to combat such a threat wouldn't be seen as unreasonable?

[storme37 9]

It all boils down to what is reasonable at the time which leaves a lot of scope to be hung out to dry by a prosecutor depending what you say.

Your actions have to be absolutely necessary at the time as well as proportionate to the threat.

Warning shots are aload of balls, that's one wasted and if your on the house and fire one where is it going? Do you fire at a stud wall or a ceiling, what about ricochets?

If you are justified in shooting someone then shoot don't fire a warning, the sight of a firearm is a warning in itself. It might not be practical to shout a warning either. You will be shitting yourself and the adrenalin will be through the roof. Pointing and perhaps shooting a person is totally different ball game than shooting an animal.

 

Most people are not trained armed police or soldiers so even if your actions are perceived to be excessive as long as it can be proven that your life/lives were in danger and that your intent was to use the minimum use of force then hopefully things should swing your way.

The issue somebody mentioned earlier on about having easy access to a firearm as in under your bed is easily explained by the fact you couldn't sleep and you were cleaning your gun as it helps you sleep;)

If ever involved give just the very least of an account until you have a solicitor, none of this macho bollocks about shooting until they're dead etc.

Shoot to stop the threat not to kill as you will go down for that.

Dont forget we are entitled to Human Rights just the same as criminals etc.

if you live in a rough area and are therefore at risk of break ins couldn't it be seen as reasonable to keep a weapon to hand? the fact is most people have a kitchen (full of knives) around the back door area of their house, so chances are if someone broke in they'd do it at the back and have access to weapons straight away....so surely having your gun or whatever in your room to combat such a threat wouldn't be seen as unreasonable?

not in the uk, they are ment to be locked up