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[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

IMO and as a rule of thumb ,if your dog is eating unusual amounts of grass then it is deficient in something and should be encouraged to eat some form of veg .This may require liquidising and adding to the meat as some dogs do not take to raw veg .

[Guest jrt]

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Edited January 8, 2009 by jrt

[Tonymac 0]

Rice and so on are mainly just used for filling.I cannot see them helping build Muscle much. Tony

[Pipey Magregor 0]

Rice and so on are mainly just used for filling.I cannot see them helping build Muscle much. Tony

 

Rice and Pasta are high in carbohydrates, they provide dogs and humans alike with plenty of slow releasing energy, but in saying that over doing either of these (Especialy Pasta!) will make your dog fat if they dont run it off properly, as the carbs will be stored which will turn to fat.

 

If you're going to give them pasta or rice then dont over do it, maybe a small ammount 2 times a week.

 

Rice is the less fattening of the two and if youre going to get pasta get the wheat based pasta, its alot healthier, just like wholemeal bread is better for us than what white bread is, wheat based pasta is better than normal pasta in the same way.

[Guest Frank]

I feed veg, but my dogs still eat grass?

I feed mine, venison, rabbit, chicken(when i can get it), meaty srcaps and fat from butchers, lamb shanks, lamb breast, veg and Red Mills Tracker and the odd egg yolk, not the whites .

 

Frank.

Edited July 12, 2007 by Frank

[skycat 6,173]

FACT: dogs do not need carbohydrate. They derive their energy from animal fats. Yes, they can convert carbs but not as efficiently as humans. Surveys done many years ago concluded that dogs can 'learn' to use carbs effectively but only if fed over a period of time which allows the body to 'learn' how to use it properly. My dogs haven't had carboydrates since I started to feed raw meat/bones/veg etc. And they are not exactly suffering from defficient energy levels, and if anything I have more problems keeping the weight OFF them rather than trying to keep weight on.

 

Added: some Saluki type dogs and those with 'slow twitch' muscle do convert carbs better than the 'fast twitch' muscled dogs like Greyhounds (sprinters)

 

Another fact: dogs running in the Iditarod (the Alaskan sled dog race which is run over 1,150 miles) rely heavily on high protein/high fat diets: little or no carbohydrate is fed or needed.

[Guest reload]

IMO and as a rule of thumb ,if your dog is eating unusual amounts of grass then it is deficient in something and should be encouraged to eat some form of veg .This may require liquidising and adding to the meat as some dogs do not take to raw veg .

 

That is incorrect I am afraid Foxdropper.

Firstly you will notice that when a dog eats grass it is pssed either out in the shit or thrown up, and when you have a look at it, it is still in its whole form The reason for this is that your dogs are Carnivores in the main and cannot break down plant matter in its whole form. The reason dogs eat it is that they need to cleanse the gut. The best thing is a weekly fast to help the gut have a rest, you often see this problem in dogs fed food everyday of there lives. Any plant matter given to dogs need to be broken dog, ideally in a liquidizer.

 

 

 

I feed veg, but my dogs still eat grass?

I feed mine, venison, rabbit, chicken(when i can get it), meaty srcaps and fat from butchers, lamb shanks, lamb breast, veg and Red Mills Tracker and the odd egg yolk, not the whites .

 

Frank.

 

Answered in above Frank

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

DS what you reckon on feeding dogs 1 egg a week, ive read that it is good for them?

 

I used to give mine an egg twice a week. No particular rhyme or reason to that. I just did it because eggs were freely available to me then and it was something else to chuck into the mix. Variety being, so they say, the spice of life.

 

I'd just add to that; I noticed how top level Greyhound Trainers always fed their contenders a light meal ~ including a raw egg ~ on the day of their race. Decades ago we used to be able to get dried egg too. Yellowish powder that came in a tin. That too was used, though I don't now remember the why's and wherefore's. But my Dad bought that in in large quantities. Also, would ye believe, Kellogs Cornflakes? I always remember van loads of those being delivered to the kennels. Huge, catering boxes. Something ye'd never see in a supermarket.

 

The only note of caution I feel obliged to highlight in all this though is that this is how racing greyhounds were fed. Dogs kept for a very specific and limited activity, see? Who were also, by and large, expected to maintane their ultimate excellence for only a relatively brief span of time. I'm not sure of the 'modern thinking' about feeding corn based stuff to Dogs. But I do know troops, during WWII and since, were fed stimulant chemicals prior to 'Going over the top'. Probably helped them charge the enemy positions with more bravado. And then, as they quite likely got blown to kingdom come in the effort, what harm would a little 'speed' in their systems do to their 'long term' health?

[Pipey Magregor 0]

Would you advise giving your dog an egg a day?

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

Taking it that question was directed at me? Or, if it was to the house, looks like I'll be first to answer anyway, but; No. I wouldn't personally give a Dog an egg every day. Dogs, in the wild or even feral state, are extremely unlikely to source an egg every day. Birds, in the wild, natural state, just don't lay eggs year round. So I can't see an egg a day for a Dog being natural and my gut instincts just tell me it doesn't sound too clever either. Just a 'hunch', but there it is.

[Pipey Magregor 0]

Taking it that question was directed at me? Or, if it was to the house, looks like I'll be first to answer anyway, but; No. I wouldn't personally give a Dog an egg every day. Dogs, in the wild or even feral state, are extremely unlikely to source an egg every day. Birds, in the wild, natural state, just don't lay eggs year round. So I can't see an egg a day for a Dog being natural and my gut instincts just tell me it doesn't sound too clever either. Just a 'hunch', but there it is.

 

I shall stick to 2 a week then, cheers DS.

 

More for me then .

Edited July 13, 2007 by Pipey Magregor

[Guest JDF]

on the subject of eggs fellas,it was Inan who first pointed it out on here but you should give them a minute or so in a cup of boiling water to solidify the white a little before feeding as raw egg white affects the biotin level in the dog,a little pre cooking prevents this i believe.

[Pipey Magregor 0]

on the subject of eggs fellas,it was Inan who first pointed it out on here but you should give them a minute or so in a cup of boiling water to solidify the white a little before feeding as raw egg white affects the biotin level in the dog,a little pre cooking prevents this i believe.

 

Whats the Boitin levels???

[Guest jrt]

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Edited January 8, 2009 by jrt