mange.

[paulus 26]

Is it demodectic or sarcoptic mange we are talking about, my brother's Vizla pup had a few bald patches on his head, vet diagnosed it as demodectic after taking a scrape which i'm led to believe can be quite common in pups. Vet prescribed Advocate and after a few weeks it cleared up. Just recently the same dog had a few more tiny bald spots (now 11 months old).....he spoke to vet about it and the vet said once they have had it once they are susceptible to having it again.....?????

 

 

SINDASOX

in dogs the condition known as mange has 2 types sarcoptes and demodex one living under the skin the other in hair folliciles in humans the same conditions are known as scabies and demodicosis, once cured there is no reason why they should get it again unless the mites are not fully iradicated from the bedding housing ect

[SINDASOX 256]

As i said in my post, my brothers pup was diagnosed with the Demodectic Mite, this mite is present under the skin on all dogs, and the mange only breaks out when there is a problem, immune system is low etc.

I have also read that it could take up to 18 months in some dogs to develop a Healthy Immune System.

 

 

SINDASOX

[paulus 26]

As i said in my post, my brothers pup was diagnosed with the Demodectic Mite, this mite is present under the skin on all dogs, and the mange only breaks out when there is a problem, immune system is low etc.

I have also read that it could take up to 18 months in some dogs to develop a Healthy Immune System.

 

 

SINDASOX

thats one theory

 

heres a bit more information

Two forms of mange are common in dogs. They are sarcoptic mange, caused by Sarcoptes scabei and

demodectic mange caused by Demodex canis. Cats can also become infected with sarcoptic mange. But the form that is most common in cats is Notoedric mange. Sarcoptic mange is sometimes called scabies.

Sarcoptic mange is highly contagious between dogs. It is found all over the World. Sarcoptic mites are near-microscopic, eight-legged creatures closely related to ticks. Their entire life cycle of three to four weeks is spent on the dog or another host.

Female sarcoptic mites are twice as large as males - similar to the one in the illustration at the top of this page. Males stay on the pet’s skin surface. But female mites burrow into the upper layers of the skin forming long tunnels. Your pet’s reaction to this activity and products the mites release cause intense itching, scratching, reddened streaks and skin inflammation.

Periodically the female mites lay small clusters of eggs in their tunnels that hatch into immature larva that mature into “nymph” forms (with six legs). Female nymphs mature to create their own skin tunnels, itching and more inflammation. As the number of mites on your pet increases, its skin often becomes very crusty.

Dogs of any age can become infected, but sarcoptic mange is most common in young animals.

How Did My Dog Catch Sarcoptic Mange?

Sarcoptic mange is usually spread by close contact between a dog that carries mites and one that does not. It’s method of spread is similar to that of head lice in children. Dogs that spread the infections often have little or no signs that they are infected. Sarcoptic mange can also be spread by contact with objects, such as blankets and quarters that have recently been used by infected animals. Mange mites do not generally survive off a host animal for more than 2-4 days.

Sarcoptic mange is usually spread where large numbers of poorly maintained dogs are maintained in crowded conditions – such as at animal shelters, boarding kennels and pet shops. It is also transferred at grooming salons through towels, clippers and improperly sanitized caging. Mother dogs in recovery or in long-term balance with the parasite often transmit it to their offspring. So puppies from puppy mills and unsanitary breeders are also a major source of the disease.

What Signs Will I See If My Pet Has Sarcoptic Mange?

It is easiest for the mites to burrow into skin that has sparse hair. That, plus the fact that pets check new situations out with their head, makes the edges of the ears and the face prime areas for mange to begin. Elbows and tummies are also areas that become infected early. When they do, small red papules and welts in these areas are common. As the disease progresses and the number of mites multiply, the whole body is eventually infested with these parasites.

The intense irritation these mites produce, cause the pet to scratch incessantly. No other chronic skin problem is as intensely itchy as sarcoptic mange. You can hear the pet scratching throughout the house. Oozing, raw skin often causes off-white crusts to form that are very typical for sarcoptic mange. You can see them on the edge of the dog's ear in my illustration (click

larger image). When they are present, the disease is unmistakable. However, not all pets develop these typical crusts.

Bacteria and yeast take advantage of this unhealthy situation and give the pet a strong, musty odor (

seborrhea). These secondary infections and mite debris also cause the lymph nodes that drain the skin to become enlarged. Pets often loose weight as well.

In long standing cases, the pet’s skin may become thickened and over pigmented with folds and wrinkles. These are the cases with the greatest superficial lymph node enlargement, weight loss and general debility.

Do All Animals With Sarcoptic Mange Show These Signs?

No. Some pets carry low numbers of mites without obvious symptoms. Sarcoptic mites cause antibodies to form in your pet. In some animals, these antibodies appear to keep the number of mites in check.

How Will My Veterinarian Determine If Mange Is My Pet’s Problem?

Diagnosis of Sarcoptic mange relies on your veterinarian finding mites, or mite eggs and excrement on your pet. Sarcoptes is easiest to diagnose when crusts are still present on your pet’s skin. When these crusts are scraped from your pet and suspended in oil, mites are usually common and easy to see using a microscope.

However, once a pet has been bathed and scrubbed free of crusts, locating mites can be come difficult. It often requires several scrapings and close microscopic examination to find one. In these cases, ingested mites can sometimes be found in the pet’s fecal material. An antibody (

ELISA) test has also been used to identify exposed pets.

In stubborn cases of itchy dogs, when skin scrapings have been negative ; veterinarians may send off a skin biopsy for pathological examination. The type of inflammation that pathologists observe in these samples can be suggestive of a sarcoptic mange problem.

When mites cannot be found, many veterinarians give pets medications that are known to cure mange. If the dog makes a dramatic recovery in 2-4 weeks, we know mange was the problem. The symptoms of sarcoptic mange are similar to that seen in food allergies and

canine atopy (inhalant allergies). Giving an acaracide (medication that kills mites) is a good way to help sort these causes out. It is particularly important to rule out sarcoptic mange before a pet is placed on an itch-suppressing dose of corticosteroid medication.

What Treatments Cure Mange?

This article was written primarily for dogs. If you have a pet of another species, such as a cat, do not use any of these products other than under the supervision of your veterinarian. The toxicity of these medications varies between species. Also, certain breeds of dogs (collies, herding dogs, etc. ) are more sensitive to some of these compounds than to others. Many of these products will kill heartworm larva which can cause a reaction in heartworm-positive pets.

Luckily, a large number of medications eliminate Sarcoptic mange mites. In olden days, oily products that plugged up the mite’s respiratory system were used. Petroleum motor oil was one of them. It should never be used.

Ivermectin

Ivermectin is routinely used to prevent heartworm disease. It is very effective in curing sarcoptic mange. Although it works rapidly, the pets will continue to itch for a while due to remaining mite debris in their skin. It is effective when given by injection or orally. Because it can be toxic in certain pets and certain situations, it should only be given in consultation with your veterinarian. When a

spinosad- containing flea control product is used in your pet, the dose of ivermectin must be closely monitored or another product used. It is not US FDA approved for the cure of sarcoptic mange.

Selamectin (

Revolution)

This product works well to eliminate sarcoptic mites. The dose frequency to cure an infected dog is greater that the dose suggested to prevent infection. It has been approved by the US FDA for this use. It’s primary use is as a heartworm and flea control product.

Moxidectin (

Advantage Multi)

Advantage Multi appears effective in curing sarcoptic mange – although it is not US FDA approved for this use. It is sold as a heartworm and flea control product.

Amitraz (

Mitaban)

This product is used as a dip. It is primarily used to treat another form of mange,

demodectic mange, but it is also effective in killing sarcoptic mange mites. To be effective, the pet must first be bathed well in a pet-friendly shampoo to remove crusts, debris and skin oil. This allows the amitraz to penetrate the skin to the level where the mites reside. Another dip, lime sulfur dip, is usually reserved for cats with Notoedric mange or very young puppies. Because we now have injectable, topical and oral medications that do not need to be in direct contact with the mites, mange dips are used less frequently than they once were.

Milbemycin Oxime (

Interceptor/Sentinel)

This oral heartworm control product is also effective in eliminating sarcoptic mites.

How Can I Prevent This Disease?

Monthly selamectin topical drops will prevent sarcoptic mange. Some of the other topical flea and heartworm control

avermectin products will probably also prevent sarcoptic mange – but they are not currently approved for that use in the United States.

Sarcoptic mange usually requires close contact to pass from one animal to another. The mites are quite restricted in their ability to move over distance and do not survive long when they are not on a host animal. So the same things you would do to avoid catching the flu will minimize the risk of your pet contracting sarcoptic mange. Avoid bringing your pet in contact with large groups of dogs, particularly younger ones and pets that are kept in group situations. When you must introduce your pet to high-risk activities, mist them off with a topical pyrethrin-based flea spray when you get home. If this happens frequently, consider using Revolution monthly.

Can Other Animals Or People Catch Sarcoptic Mange?

There are a number of sarcoptic mites. The ones that affect dogs are slightly different from the ones that affect other non-canine animals. When a mite jumps to the wrong type of animal, it will live on that animal for a time. We used to think that these wrong-host infections die out of their own accord. However,

some cases in cats appear to be due to the sarcoptic mite normally found on dogs.

If you associate with a pet that has sarcoptic mange, you may begin to itch. These human infections with dog sarcoptic mites are temporary (1-2 wks) – but they are quite itchy and unpleasant. They commonly form on the arms, neck and torso near elastic bands that give the parasite traction. So be sure to use gloves when you handle an infected pet and put all your garments in a hot wash cycle when you finish tending to your pet.

When cats become infected from infected dogs in the home, the infection is usually temporary.

When you treat your pet for sarcoptic mange, wash all washable materials in a hot water washer cycle to kill any mites that may be present in the home. Include the pet’s collar and tags or dip it in rubbing alcohol and let it dry. Things that can not be washed or sanitized, need to sit for a few days before they are used again.

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[SINDASOX 256]

All the above info relates to Sarcoptic Mange, as i am trying to tell you, my brothers pup had the Demodectic mite.

 

 

SINDASOX

[miroku moocher 140]

well the benzol worked on mine.. the baldy little b*****ds are all haired up and clean now. thank's guys especialy paulus

Edited January 26, 2013 by miroku moocher

[SINDASOX 256]

Does this Benzyl in link below need to be diluted down....??.... as it says in the ad that it is 99.9% pure and it is £8.99 for 50ml......where did you get yours Miroku.....????

 

 

Benzyl

 

 

SINDASOX

[Bootsha 1,306]

it says at the bottom its not water soluble, but they have others that are, hyperdrug is £19.98 delivered 500ml mate, someone had a link up here the other day

[SINDASOX 256]

it says at the bottom its not water soluble, but they have others that are, hyperdrug is £19.98 delivered 500ml mate, someone had a link up here the other day

 

 

Aye, but when he clicked on Hyperdrug to buy it, they processed his order, but then asked him for a prescription.

 

 

SINDASOX

[paulus 26]

it says at the bottom its not water soluble, but they have others that are, hyperdrug is £19.98 delivered 500ml mate, someone had a link up here the other day

 

 

Aye, but when he clicked on Hyperdrug to buy it, they processed his order, but then asked him for a prescription.

 

 

SINDASOX

look for sweet itch lotion for horses its the same stuff

Carr & Day & Martin=Horse=Pony=Killitch Sweet Itch Lotion=Benzyl Benzoate=500mls

[Guest bullterrier]

it says at the bottom its not water soluble, but they have others that are, hyperdrug is £19.98 delivered 500ml mate, someone had a link up here the other day

 

 

Aye, but when he clicked on Hyperdrug to buy it, they processed his order, but then asked him for a prescription.

 

 

SINDASOX

when ordering it from hyperdrug tell them its for your horse no prescrition needed john