R.s.p.c.a case Lurcher man needs help!

[baldockbanks courser 598]

  On 13/12/2012 at 08:46, whippet 99 said:

  On 12/12/2012 at 17:58, baldockbanks courser said:

You may have seen the country file raid on t.v.

This was linked to a badger digging case in Cambridge in which all defendants were Found not guilty.

Clive Rees was defending so was paid by the prosecution a large sum indeed after the case.

 

The r.s.p.c.a have taken there own prosecution on after raiding houses and finding images of dogs and quarie together, but none of any person in the images so there case is really not strong.

 

I've only known this lad a year but in that time and going through a stressful court case together I can tell anyone this is a genuine man who lives for his animals.

 

The r.s.p.c.a have stolen (I use that word because that what it is) his dogs in march.

 

The r.s.p.c.a are using this a test case to try to prosecute a man just for having images of illegal hunting.

 

Clive Rees has just today told him that due to the large amount of paper work the r.s.c.a have used (most of it rubbish) his bill is now £10,000 at least even though he thinks there's a fair chance of a not guilty. How can a working class lad pay this? Why should the giants who are the r.s.p.c.a just fetch cases knowing they will price the defendant out of a good defence and a fair trial!

 

I also think Clive could do better having already done very well financially out of the first case and being a hunting man himself.

 

Are there any hunting people in the legal world who would help him and show the r.s.p.c.a we can stand together and won't be bullied out of our sport.

 

Please contact me if you can help. Thank you B.

as much as i would stand by my belief and would help most men out for good reason.....................keeping photos of that kind says alot about the person and frankley i wont help people who dont help there selfs............good luck in finding help.......

You run rabbits with whippets I guess so your alright jack!

Because a person has an intrest in now historical field sports that are now unfairly i.m.o outlawed they must be a monster?

So i guess if rabbitings banned youll have a big bonfire in your garden with all your pictures of rabbit catches will you???

I won't find help on here by the looks of it but I've high lighted what the r.s.p.c.a are all about and at least tried.

[lapin2008 1,587]

  On 13/12/2012 at 09:17, baldockbanks courser said:

  On 13/12/2012 at 08:46, whippet 99 said:

  On 12/12/2012 at 17:58, baldockbanks courser said:

You may have seen the country file raid on t.v.

This was linked to a badger digging case in Cambridge in which all defendants were Found not guilty.

Clive Rees was defending so was paid by the prosecution a large sum indeed after the case.

 

The r.s.p.c.a have taken there own prosecution on after raiding houses and finding images of dogs and quarie together, but none of any person in the images so there case is really not strong.

 

I've only known this lad a year but in that time and going through a stressful court case together I can tell anyone this is a genuine man who lives for his animals.

 

The r.s.p.c.a have stolen (I use that word because that what it is) his dogs in march.

 

The r.s.p.c.a are using this a test case to try to prosecute a man just for having images of illegal hunting.

 

Clive Rees has just today told him that due to the large amount of paper work the r.s.c.a have used (most of it rubbish) his bill is now £10,000 at least even though he thinks there's a fair chance of a not guilty. How can a working class lad pay this? Why should the giants who are the r.s.p.c.a just fetch cases knowing they will price the defendant out of a good defence and a fair trial!

 

I also think Clive could do better having already done very well financially out of the first case and being a hunting man himself.

 

Are there any hunting people in the legal world who would help him and show the r.s.p.c.a we can stand together and won't be bullied out of our sport.

 

Please contact me if you can help. Thank you B.

as much as i would stand by my belief and would help most men out for good reason.....................keeping photos of that kind says alot about the person and frankley i wont help people who dont help there selfs............good luck in finding help.......

You run rabbits with whippets I guess so your alright jack!

Because a person has an intrest in now historical field sports that are now unfairly i.m.o outlawed they must be a monster?

So i guess if rabbitings banned youll have a big bonfire in your garden with all your pictures of rabbit catches will you???

I won't find help on here by the looks of it but I've high lighted what the r.s.p.c.a are all about and at least tried.

I think what he is trying to say here mate is that those that you would be expected to pay into a fund for example are the ones least likely to need the support themselves. Without you going into details of this specific case and what the stuff was in the pictures he was caught with, its hard to know about the lad who has been caught and its difficult for people to make a judgement as to whether he deserves it or not.

 

For example, If some fund or something was set up that 'we' as a hunting community paid into to cover any legal costs that 'we' may incur. I (as someone who is relatively sensible, works full time and is careful not to do anything that could incriminate myself) would resent that fund being used to bail out some nugget that has been out killing cats on an estate, or driving all over fields with no permission lamping pigs and taking pictures of the whole thing.

 

This would also most likely have the effect of making the retards even more bold in what they do knowing that they are covered if they do get caught

 

Not saying this is the case here but its just an example, Based on the photos not containing his face i cant see how it wouldnt be thrown out of court, providing the photos are old ones it should be fairly easy for this to be proved.

[pip1968 2,490]

MY MATE HAD IS DOGS TAKEN BY THE RSPCA AND HAD CLIVE ON THE CASE THE KEEPERS PLANTED A HARE IN A FIELD AND THEY KEPT YHE DOGS FOR 9MTHS.IT WENT TO COURT TWICE AND ON EVERY OCCASSION THE RSPCA INSPECTOR KEPT ASKING ME MATE TO SIGN THE DOG OVER AND IF HE DIDNT THE COST OF THE KENNELING AND FINE WAS INTO THOUSANDS WAS WHAT THEY WERE THREATENING HIM WITH.BUT THEY HAD NOWT ON HIM AND THEY NEW IT THEY JUST KEPT THE DOG AND IF HE WOULD OF SIGNED IT WOULD LOOK LIKE THEY HAD WON.IN THE END THE DOG WAS PICKED UP WITH THE POLICE WAITING FOR US AND THEY HAD TO PAY EVERYTHING AND CLIVES FEES SO FIGHT IT ALL THE WAY

[riohog 5,810]

if the chap who got pulled is genuine im sorry for him ,, but it just goes to rein force the fact that well certainly posting iffi photos on here ,, is a very big risk. .. this putting pre ban shite on them just doesent wash

[j j m 6,567]

The RSPCA are a bunch of thugs I've no time for them

[moonlighter 1,164]

So ballbags courser, everyone who refuses to help is a bunny basher lol. f**k it, I'll help him. Who shall I make this cheque for £10000 out to, lol. Now f**k off and play the harp strings somewhere else.

[sniffer 167]

My dad had a dog taken from him by the police and rspca for jogging a dog down a country lane ,he yoused to drive and the dog would happely follow ! some do gooder reported it and thy arrived mob handed aressted my dad for animal cruelty called an rspca vet to check the dog over which he did and suprice suprice he said the dog had a heart murmour and was under weight it was fed the best of food fit as a feckin fiddle and smashing hares left right and centre, my dad got an independent vet who checked the dog over and said he had never seen a saluki type dog in such good shape where the feck did the under weight and hart murmour come from they had the dog 8 week's before he got it back the lyng cheating no good bastaards....

[lapin2008 1,587]

  On 13/12/2012 at 11:01, sniffer said:

My dad had a dog taken from him by the police and rspca for jogging a dog down a country lane ,he yoused to drive and the dog would happely follow ! some do gooder reported it and thy arrived mob handed aressted my dad for animal cruelty called an rspca vet to check the dog over which he did and suprice suprice he said the dog had a heart murmour and was under weight it was fed the best of food fit as a feckin fiddle and smashing hares left right and centre, my dad got an independent vet who checked the dog over and said he had never seen a saluki type dog in such good shape where the feck did the under weight and hart murmour come from they had the dog 8 week's before he got it back the lyng cheating no good bastaards....

 

Did anyone from the rspca get any come back as a result of having lied? Should have taken it further mate once the dogs are returned. Am fairly sure with the right series of complaints/pressure/press involvement you would have been able to get some c**t to loose their job!

[events co-ordinator 353]

We have all known what the SSpca/Rspca are about it will cost YOU a minimum of £150 an HOUR for a specialist lawyer forevery hour he researches old cases /interviews witness's

etc. Then there is the question of Expert witness's fees and expenses one of the SACS pool of expert witnesss's is involved in N.I. at the moment and my old man ws advising on some parts of the case. Example one appeal against shotgun cert revocation in Glasgow sherriff court cost in excess of £42,000 the sacs team got costs awarded costs against the police BUT it still cost the appellant £7,000. This was not done through SACS but it was the case that caused my old man to recomend this team to SACS and also the SGA. Expert witnesses can cost £1,000 per day plus expenses depending on their qualifications. ALL members of the Scottish Working Terrier Club are SACS members

[sniffer 167]

  On 13/12/2012 at 11:07, lapin2008 said:

  On 13/12/2012 at 11:01, sniffer said:

My dad had a dog taken from him by the police and rspca for jogging a dog down a country lane ,he yoused to drive and the dog would happely follow ! some do gooder reported it and thy arrived mob handed aressted my dad for animal cruelty called an rspca vet to check the dog over which he did and suprice suprice he said the dog had a heart murmour and was under weight it was fed the best of food fit as a feckin fiddle and smashing hares left right and centre, my dad got an independent vet who checked the dog over and said he had never seen a saluki type dog in such good shape where the feck did the under weight and hart murmour come from they had the dog 8 week's before he got it back the lyng cheating no good bastaards....

 

Did anyone from the rspca get any come back as a result of having lied? Should have taken it further mate once the dogs are returned. Am fairly sure with the right series of complaints/pressure/press involvement you would have been able to get some c**t to loose their job!

No mate all charges where dropped never went to court and week's went bye with soliciters at them constantly lucky to get the fecking dog back..

[Giro 2,648]

What insurance would cover members for incidents like this ??

 

Or would they not ???

 

I keep running dogs and work within law but if something went tits up would any insurance help me ??

[chartpolski 25,193]

It's a pity the Writ of Habeus Corpus doesn't cover dogs !!!! How the hell are a "charity" allowed to take peoples property, (their dogs), and keep them for months ?? There used to be a saying in this country; "innocent 'till proven guiltty ", but in these cases the opposite seems to be true, they take and keep your dogs, and assume you are guilty, until you proove yourself innocent !!

 

In this lads case, he seems to have a good chance, as he was found not guilty in a criminal court, although the burden of proof is less in a civil court.

 

Cheers.

[lapin2008 1,587]

  On 13/12/2012 at 11:11, sniffer said:

  On 13/12/2012 at 11:07, lapin2008 said:

  On 13/12/2012 at 11:01, sniffer said:

My dad had a dog taken from him by the police and rspca for jogging a dog down a country lane ,he yoused to drive and the dog would happely follow ! some do gooder reported it and thy arrived mob handed aressted my dad for animal cruelty called an rspca vet to check the dog over which he did and suprice suprice he said the dog had a heart murmour and was under weight it was fed the best of food fit as a feckin fiddle and smashing hares left right and centre, my dad got an independent vet who checked the dog over and said he had never seen a saluki type dog in such good shape where the feck did the under weight and hart murmour come from they had the dog 8 week's before he got it back the lyng cheating no good bastaards....

 

Did anyone from the rspca get any come back as a result of having lied? Should have taken it further mate once the dogs are returned. Am fairly sure with the right series of complaints/pressure/press involvement you would have been able to get some c**t to loose their job!

No mate all charges where dropped never went to court and week's went bye with soliciters at them constantly lucky to get the fecking dog back..

Not lucky mate, getting the dog back is what he deserved. They were in the wrong for taking it in the first place

There would have been a way to make heads roll mate, with or without solicitors

[sniffer 167]

  On 13/12/2012 at 11:14, chartpolski said:

It's a pity the Writ of Habeus Corpus doesn't cover dogs !!!! How the hell are a "charity" allowed to take peoples property, (their dogs), and keep them for months ?? There used to be a saying in this country; "innocent 'till proven guiltty ", but in these cases the opposite seems to be true, they take and keep your dogs, and assume you are guilty, until you proove yourself innocent !!

 

In this lads case, he seems to have a good chance, as he was found not guilty in a criminal court, although the burden of proof is less in a civil court.

 

Cheers.

And to top it off when the dog came back it was feckin thin stinking and coverd in juv's..

[BIG G wheton machine 1,594]

  On 13/12/2012 at 08:30, baldockbanks courser said:

They took 4/5 dogs they were all in pens with metal dividers....

 

1 of the charges was that 1 dog had fleas he failed to treat!!! Only the 1 the rest didn't have fleas. Unbelievable.

 

He tried to get he's vet to examine the dogs as soon as they were taken and the r.s.p.c.a said they won't be nescery 3 times and refused.

 

When he finally saw the dogs months later he was shocked by there condition, when he asked why they was like a bag of bones they simply put it down to the stress of being kennelled.

 

They do what they like!!!!

are you serious??/ taking a og with fleas and prosocuting for lack of treatment then wtf are they against the badger cull for when they are spreading disease like a bushfire in the summer. oh aye they have double standards