Guest Snitch99 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 i got mine dogs siezed in march an was banned for life monday lost 20 years of dogs,,,discusting, Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 On 12/12/2012 at 20:34, Brewman said: On 12/12/2012 at 19:31, paulus said: On 12/12/2012 at 19:26, Brewman said: As far as I know if he is found not guilty he shouldn't have to pay in a criminal prosecution. If its a civil prosecution its up to the judge to award the costs in any direction. If there is a fund being set up i would happily contribute to it. It's a bit iffy for the rspca to take such a stance seeing as this will cost them because they need to raise a number of times more the amount needed but then its not their money and that's probably the reasoning behind it. Me thinks they are taking the piss leaning on the small man trying scare tactics. If it fails I think it will be a once off. sounds as if there trying to set a precedence so a conviction could be achieved on the basis of a photo without a clear link to the accused actually being there at the time the picture was taken, a very dangerous development if you ask me, as all alledged pre ban pictures would become questionable............. If and hopefully when this falls flat on its arse I don't think the public would be to chuffed to see where their money is going. I think they would be seriously hacked off at the hundreds of thousands spent on cases like this and not genuine cases of animal cruelty. thats the problem when politics become involved in charities, charities should be about what there set up to do and leave the politics to the polititions Quote Link to post
BIG G wheton machine 1,594 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 can you tell us what quarry is in the pics that was seized Quote Link to post
Guest Snitch99 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 On 12/12/2012 at 20:39, Snitch99 said: i got mine dogs siezed in march an was banned for life monday lost 20 years of dogs,,,discusting, BTW IS USED TO BE D.F.K ON HERE FOR ALL WHO DONT KNOW THE OUTCOME OF MY RAID, WELL THATS WAS IN BANNED FOR LIFE 200 HOURS HOURS, AND 1000 FINE I WAS NOT CAUGHT HUNTING THIS WAS DUE TO DOG INJURYS WITH NO VET REPORTS.......... BE CAREFULL MY LIFE IS NOW A MISERY DUE TO THE RSPCA Quote Link to post
DeerhoundLurcherMan 997 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 On 12/12/2012 at 20:39, baldockbanks courser said: On 12/12/2012 at 20:35, baldockbanks courser said: On 12/12/2012 at 20:30, desertbred said: as this doesnt appear to be a private prosecution by the RSPCA then a full section 1 commital should be asked for at the magistrates, if this is a criminal prosecution then the DPP would have to consider how strong thier case is and then produce all thier evidence before the magistrates this would test the water to see how strong the case is and the case may well be dropped. it cetainly appears Mr Reece is taking the micheal. Clarrisa Dixon is a Barrister dont know if she pratices or not but she was prosecuteD for coursing a few years ago maybe she could give some pointers in the right direction or some up and coming legal eagle provide probono to support the hunting lobby atb It is a private prosecution. It's small change for them to take this all the way. I don't know the ins and outs but It was adjourned last week for the c.p.s to look at it. In my opinion the c.p.s run everything. I've had 6 not guiltys on the spin now and some had little evidence and or witness they just hope you plead guilty or crumble in the box. Have a read of this mate, it sounds like the cps will review it. Do you know they have the power to take the case over and dismiss it? especially likely if your pal was found not guilty against them! http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/p_to_r/private_prosecutions/ Quote Link to post
graham4877 1,181 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 so they only have photos..but your mate is in none of them??? and as northenlite said insurance is a few pennies a year and he would of been covered Quote Link to post
skycat 6,173 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 On 12/12/2012 at 19:09, baldockbanks courser said: He don't earn a fortune but enough not to get legal aid, if he sat about watching Jeremy Kyle he'd be o.k, but he's working class and white so as its England he'll have to get on with it. Sky cat I know your attitude and it's based on...if the law never got reversed you'd be perfectly happy hunting rabbits and writing books for the rest of your days and if others aren't content with that then to bad thell have to face the consequences alone. Well I'm not content with that and I dream of a day this unjust law is reversed. You don't know my attitude at all if that's what you think. Ask my OH if I'm happy with the way things are: he has to put up with the anger and ranting I get into sometimes. I live in anger at what has happened to us and not a day goes by when I'm out with my dogs and fearing that they'll get seen doing something they shouldn't: but how can you explain to a dog that it can't hunt any more, that it can't follow that scent it loves more than anything else? Don't you tell me what I think and feel. :censored: :censored: 11 Quote Link to post
artful212 394 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 if hes insured with s.a.c.s they send a legal team to sort it out im in same position as your friend but i got legal aid as not earning much at min good luck to him Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,089 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 On 12/12/2012 at 21:46, artful212 said: if hes insured with s.a.c.s they send a legal team to sort it out im in same position as your friend but i got legal aid as not earning much at min good luck to him thats the one £35 a year why would you want to keep illegal photos thats like robbing a bank and taking photos of you doing it not a wise thing to do 1 Quote Link to post
graham4877 1,181 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 here lads http://www.sacs.org.uk/ Quote Link to post
Chid 6,537 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 dont sacs still do the discount for being a member on here? Quote Link to post
Born To Dig 38 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Does the insurance with s.a.c.s cover lurcher and terrier work for anybody in the uk? Quote Link to post
Chid 6,537 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 On 12/12/2012 at 22:27, Born To Dig said: Does the insurance with s.a.c.s cover lurcher and terrier work for anybody in the uk? yes Quote Link to post
haymin 2,465 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 As you have got a right to represent your self tell him to do that it won't cost a penny and if he's a convincing talker you just never no . 1 Quote Link to post
graham4877 1,181 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 I still don't see how it could make court . if its only photos.. its like owning a book of old fighting dags and getting taken to court for that Quote Link to post
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