Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 I brought my bitch as saluki whippet greyhound. I've often thought there's a touch of collie in there. But not sure. Either way, there is definitely a good dose of saluki. I had a saluki cross before. Couldn't get the bond right. He was a handful. Wouldn't recall, retrieve, submit food, could be aggressive to me. Etc. This bitch is the complete opposite, recall 100%, retrieve could be better but she brings it so far and is happy to submit the rabbit when I get to her. She has got the saluki stubborn streak but I've accepted that now as part of the breed. She is very intelligent. Runs very clever. One thing I've learnt and been told about the salukis is bond, bond, bond. So I have. And she is now very much a 1-man dog. She's great with my daughter and Missus but won't obey them if I'm there and just waits for my every command. Following me like a shadow. This had led to serious separation anxiety and she gets seriously depressed when I go to work or even to bed. Clingy isn't the word. She wants to be sat on my lap 24/7. Now she is great in the field, and I'm sure alot of that is down to the saluki, and her loyalty is fantastic. But this whining, crying, clingy side is horrible. Is this typical of the saluki cross? Or have I been unlucky and had 2 pain in the arses? Lol. Gaz Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted December 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Learning sit and stay Quote Link to post
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RossM 8,149 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 If I remember correctly she came to you as an adult? The way she was treated before could play a big part in it Quote Link to post
skycat 6,174 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Hordes of dogs are clingy, stressy, suffer from separation of anxiety: has nothing to do with her breeding and everything to do with the way she was reared and handled in the past. No dog is perfect. And the reluctance to bring a rabbit right to you has also nothing to do with stubborness or so-called Saluki tendencies, but everything to do with incorrect training in her past home. A dog which lacks confidence in its owner/handler, or has been abused for not coming straight back when called: this sort of thing is hard to get over no matter how great the dog's present home is: habits ingrained through negative reinforcement are very strong indeed. In other words, fear based 'training': you may get over this some day, but only if you work really hard at it and preferably with the help of an experienced dog trainer: one who understands the sight hound mentality. 4 Quote Link to post
paulsmithy83 567 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 As been said you dont no how she been treated before regards to the crying, winning I wouldnt put that down to saluki. Lost count the amount of saluki types my family have owned all my family run em and we dont hav that problem. Aint un heard of tho in any cross that if was neglected before you had it and now you got a good bond with her she could be worried ur gonna leave her and not come bk. dogs ain't stupid just stay calm [bANNED TEXT] her an she should slowly get out of it. Don't get me wrong cud be many things why she doing it but try looking at it through a dogs eye Quote Link to post
paulsmithy83 567 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Hordes of dogs are clingy, stressy, suffer from separation of anxiety: has nothing to do with her breeding and everything to do with the way she was reared and handled in the past. No dog is perfect. And the reluctance to bring a rabbit right to you has also nothing to do with stubborness or so-called Saluki tendencies, but everything to do with incorrect training in her past home. A dog which lacks confidence in its owner/handler, or has been abused for not coming straight back when called: this sort of thing is hard to get over no matter how great the dog's present home is: habits ingrained through negative reinforcement are very strong indeed. In other words, fear based 'training': you may get over this some day, but only if you work really hard at it and preferably with the help of an experienced dog trainer: one who understands the sight hound mentality. Some dogs just dont retrieve all the way not always about confidence. Sometimes it can be pack related why would too dog give up its prey to a lower pack member ?????? Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted December 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Thanks for replys. She did come to me as an adult yes. The retrieving really doesnt bother me, if it comes with time then great, if it doesnt then thats fine. If she catches at the other end of the field she will bring it to about 10 feet away and stand with it, sometimes she will run past me and stop a few feet away. When i walk over she gives it me without much fuss. The whining, clingy thing does annoy me but I can live with it. I was more concerned about the breed and saluki crosses in general as opposed rectifying the faults that my current dog has got. Ive always wanted to own a coursing bred dog and raise as an all round lurcher, but my experiences with this bitch and my last dog have made me question the Saluki X. However, maybe its unfair of me to do this, my last dog was my first and I had alot to learn, so maybe a Saluki x wasnt the best for a first lurcher, and this one as people have rightly said was taken on as an adult so may of been mistreated or raised incorrectly etc. Cheers Gaz Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted December 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Hordes of dogs are clingy, stressy, suffer from separation of anxiety: has nothing to do with her breeding and everything to do with the way she was reared and handled in the past. No dog is perfect. And the reluctance to bring a rabbit right to you has also nothing to do with stubborness or so-called Saluki tendencies, but everything to do with incorrect training in her past home. A dog which lacks confidence in its owner/handler, or has been abused for not coming straight back when called: this sort of thing is hard to get over no matter how great the dog's present home is: habits ingrained through negative reinforcement are very strong indeed. In other words, fear based 'training': you may get over this some day, but only if you work really hard at it and preferably with the help of an experienced dog trainer: one who understands the sight hound mentality. Some dogs just dont retrieve all the way not always about confidence. Sometimes it can be pack related why would too dog give up its prey to a lower pack member ?????? As the owner though, surely you are never going to be a lower pack member to your dog??? Quote Link to post
paulsmithy83 567 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Gareth your be surprised just cos your the owner doesnt make u top of the food chain matey Even more so [bANNED TEXT] stubborn types A lot of behaviour problem occur from bring bottom of pack not saying it is case with this bitch just saying could be ano option on retrieve Quote Link to post
fitchet 788 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Dont worry about raising a coursing bred dog as an allrounder just get it from a pup. I got mine at a late age and i couldve trained him to a really high standard if id had him from a pup. But he has some issues that i need to get out of him apart from that hes a very good allrounder and has knocked over ALL qaurry in the small fields around me aswell as the big ones. Atb Quote Link to post
paulsmithy83 567 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Loads use coursing bred types as field dogs 4 lamping/daytime n all that. My bro gave a family friend the ova day a very well bred coursing dog pup that will b used for the same kind of thing a lamp dog and a day dog Quote Link to post
mikeball 108 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 I don't think you've got any problems with lady gaz. Dogs only cry when put in the kennel/create cause they feel pack rejection. If you wernt the pack leader she wouldn't care about been away from you surely??? Quote Link to post
riohog 5,823 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Hordes of dogs are clingy, stressy, suffer from separation of anxiety: has nothing to do with her breeding and everything to do with the way she was reared and handled in the past. No dog is perfect. And the reluctance to bring a rabbit right to you has also nothing to do with stubborness or so-called Saluki tendencies, but everything to do with incorrect training in her past home. A dog which lacks confidence in its owner/handler, or has been abused for not coming straight back when called: this sort of thing is hard to get over no matter how great the dog's present home is: habits ingrained through negative reinforcement are very strong indeed. In other words, fear based 'training': you may get over this some day, but only if you work really hard at it and preferably with the help of an experienced dog trainer: one who understands the sight hound mentality. couple of really good points there penny , ,early days training and bond is very inportant , ,breeding plays a bigpart temperment!!, and understanding how salukis tick !!. and they are not all the same , ive got 2 full salukis and they are very different , ,and require different methods of handeling . 1 Quote Link to post
baw 4,360 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 It's the saluki mate, not worth the effort. Everyone has major failings Quote Link to post
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