D-Day! (Renamed to "The re-education and crushing defeat of the fatally idealistic Mr Miles")

[milegajo 595]

To answer paulus, you would of course need to be the owner to have suffered any percieved loss.

 

This is the crux in this instance. Ownership is not contested in that i claim the land, rather I require the owner, if he exists, to substantiate his claim so that we may enter negotiations knowing who is who.

 

A case of: "Show me the deeds!"

does the land registory not know who owns it

 

There must be a record as it flagged up on the website.

 

Regardless of what their records say, I would still require proof, though would acknowledge the evidence.

 

If the chap climbed off his high horse, kept his toys in the pram and grew up enough to produce the goods, I could negotiate the terms of my departure. As it is, i have yet to make contact with the owner, and until one is found I shall remain.

[Pink or stink 162]

 

This is the crux in this instance. Ownership is not contested in that i claim the land, rather I require the owner, if he exists, to substantiate his claim so that we may enter negotiations knowing who is who.

 

If you neglect something to the point it appears abandoned, you evidently have no need of it. If another can put it to use, I see no justifiable reason to deny them.

 

A case of: "Show me the deeds!"

 

So in the absence of the first point you apply the latter? Would it not have been wise to establish ownership prior to setting up shop?

[milegajo 595]

 

This is the crux in this instance. Ownership is not contested in that i claim the land, rather I require the owner, if he exists, to substantiate his claim so that we may enter negotiations knowing who is who.

 

If you neglect something to the point it appears abandoned, you evidently have no need of it. If another can put it to use, I see no justifiable reason to deny them.

 

A case of: "Show me the deeds!"

 

So in the absence of the first point you apply the latter? Would it not have been wise to establish ownership prior to setting up shop?

 

Excellent point. If the land were indeed private, how did I access it? Legally and lawfully I might add.

 

Is it not normal practice to secure that which holds value? I know insurers get upset if you don't...

 

 

[forest of dean redneck 11,608]

I know if I owned land and had to prove I owned it to someone that just drove on,I would be pissed off with the extra stress and inconvience caused!

You know it's owned by someone it doesn't matter who,the fact you come on here moaning about d-day smacks of attention seeking,if I was squatting and was served notice,last thing I would do is come on here talking about it,

Tat up and move on .

[Pink or stink 162]

Shooting on this land could be considered armed trespass (with a firearm) could it not?

[gonetoearth 5,144]

 

This is the crux in this instance. Ownership is not contested in that i claim the land, rather I require the owner, if he exists, to substantiate his claim so that we may enter negotiations knowing who is who.

 

If you neglect something to the point it appears abandoned, you evidently have no need of it. If another can put it to use, I see no justifiable reason to deny them.

 

A case of: "Show me the deeds!"

 

So in the absence of the first point you apply the latter? Would it not have been wise to establish ownership prior to setting up shop?

 

Excellent point. If the land were indeed private, how did I access it? Legally and lawfully I might add.

 

Is it not normal practice to secure that which holds value? I know insurers get upset if you don't...

. Your a squatter Another freeloader. Get off the land you have had your time for nothing get off

[milegajo 595]

Shooting on this land could be considered armed trespass (with a firearm) could it not?

 

No, i don't believe so. In order to trespass you must refuse to leave when asked.

I have not refused and will not, I only require verification that I'm communicating with the correct party.

For all I currently know, this is a passer by who decided he didn't like my face...

[milegajo 595]

I know if I owned land and had to prove I owned it to someone that just drove on,I would be pissed off with the extra stress and inconvience caused!

You know it's owned by someone it doesn't matter who,the fact you come on here moaning about d-day smacks of attention seeking,if I was squatting and was served notice,last thing I would do is come on here talking about it,

Tat up and move on .

This is the crux in this instance. Ownership is not contested in that i claim the land, rather I require the owner, if he exists, to substantiate his claim so that we may enter negotiations knowing who is who.

 

If you neglect something to the point it appears abandoned, you evidently have no need of it. If another can put it to use, I see no justifiable reason to deny them.

 

A case of: "Show me the deeds!"

 

So in the absence of the first point you apply the latter? Would it not have been wise to establish ownership prior to setting up shop?

 

Excellent point. If the land were indeed private, how did I access it? Legally and lawfully I might add.

 

Is it not normal practice to secure that which holds value? I know insurers get upset if you don't...

. Your a squatter Another freeloader. Get off the land you have had your time for nothing get off

 

Thank you gonetoearth and forest of dean redneck both. In the spirit of being constructive, do either of you have any alternatives?

 

The forest of dean is very attractive...nearby too. Though the boar may require something a bit beefier than my .177 sub 12ft/lb pop guns

Edited December 10, 2012 by milegajo

[Paid 935]

You put your family through all this too ?

 

No. Mr Amaury and Mr Detmar Blow have chosen to pay Sherbond and others to subject us to this.

 

Sorry mate, but thats a buck you can not pass on, you did this to yourself, and your family.

Better luck next time.

 

Whats the location of the area ? Can you share the grid reference ?

[milegajo 595]

You put your family through all this too ?

 

No. Mr Amaury and Mr Detmar Blow have chosen to pay Sherbond and others to subject us to this.

 

Sorry mate, but thats a buck you can not pass on, you did this to yourself, and your family.

Better luck next time.

 

Whats the location of the area ? Can you share the grid reference ?

 

I wholeheartedly disagree. I think you'll find a judge and the legal system would too. I can accept that mine and my family's presence has been the prompt and catalyst, but your trying to attach responsibility for anothers actions upon me is something I cannot.

 

I can share my location, but would rather not do so publicly. I fear some would like to assist my antagonists!

[socks 32,253]

So do you accept that the land is not yours? And if so when the owner is verified will you move on without question? And will you be putting the land back exactly as you found it?

[stealthy1 3,964]

Dont think you have a leg to stand on, someone elses land, the travelers are moved with in 2 weeks here from common land

[Pink or stink 162]

So do you accept that the land is not yours? And if so when the owner is verified will you move on without question? And will you be putting the land back exactly as you found it?

 

If he does that then he accepts any shooting on the land is/was armed trespass.

[Simoman 110]

Shakespeare with a pop gun In all seriousnes in a way i envy your simplistic lifestyle and viewpoint. If the man involved lawfully does own the land then you should leave immediately, surely the people evicting you must of recieved proof of ownership? Unfortunately although it may go against your beliefs you may be better off buying a plot of land and making that a permanent home. Just because somebody may own some land nad has left it to overgrow etc, doesn't give anyone the right to decide this and claim residency, the bottom of my garden may be overgrown but it doesn't mean i want some body setting up a teepee......

As has also been mentioned, should you be shooting without permission, does this contravine firearms legislation???

[TUFFTY 1,476]

Shakespeare with a pop gun In all seriousnes in a way i envy your simplistic lifestyle and viewpoint. If the man involved lawfully does own the land then you should leave immediately, surely the people evicting you must of recieved proof of ownership? Unfortunately although it may go against your beliefs you may be better off buying a plot of land and making that a permanent home. Just because somebody may own some land nad has left it to overgrow etc, doesn't give anyone the right to decide this and claim residency, the bottom of my garden may be overgrown but it doesn't mean i want some body setting up a teepee......

As has also been mentioned, should you be shooting without permission, does this contravine firearms legislation???

 

Si, im having a large shed delievered in the morning at your adress

Just send it round the back for me

 

Cheers TUFFTY