tb25 4,627 Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 Who's to say the kids are happy? Kids are happy with what they have, what ever they have because they have to be. Who's to say in 20 years time there not thinking "ffs i wish dad just had a job like a normal bloke". Thats the thing about kids, they are innocent and honourable, and deserve the best they can get. Instead it seems yours dont go to school, live in a small caravan on an area of "tidied" rough ground. Your doing them a disservice and you shouldnt be applauded for it you should be criticised. If you want to teach them how to skin a gut a squirrel at least do it from a bloody council house. is living in a council house not taking from the tax payer...the man went at it alone...good for himnot the best upbringing up for young kids tbh,,but no need for some of these shitty coments .. I dont think council or housing association accomadation is taking of the tax payer, think its based on not for profit housing. ...swings and roundabouts.. Link to post Share on other sites
BIG G wheton machine 1,594 Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 well miles ya should write a book with the grammer and imagination that you have ya could earn a few quid n maybe build a cottage in th woods 1 day if thats what your aim is. god loves a tryer. but hugh fearnley bullsh1t couldnt do it all on his own he was earning from subsidies off the tv. i think its most peoples dream to own a place with extra land in the countryside. Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom 631 Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 (edited) Who decides what land belongs to each and every one of the Human Animals? Aparently a long time ago some Almighty Entity of supernatural power called 'GOD, Allah, Buddah or Ghia' or whatever the feck he/she/it wishes to be known' has created the Earth. Right? So if it is generally accepted that "He/She or It" ownes what it has created; then who decided that Mr W; Mrs X; King Y or Queen Z ownes what land upon the Earth? Who gave permission for the "Ownership" of land/water? We are all Animals that reside temporerilly upon the surface of this Planet known to us as 'Earth' are we not? Just as other Animals and Insects, Germs and Microbes live freely upon our planet. Why then do we take it that others are better than ourselves? Why do we pay taxes to those who assume they are better than us? Why do we not live as our sacred entity wished us to live? Who grants the Government 'Permissions' to enslave us, to charge us for our very existance? I wish the Human Animal would resort to a time before the concept of kings queens and governments, before tribes, before greed, when humans could walk freely and feed themselves; without having to pay tax on everything they do, before the concept of 'Ownership and Greed' I am not alone, neither is Mike/Miles. Tony Edited December 14, 2012 by Phantom 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,763 Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 Who decides what land belongs to each and every one of the Human Animals? Aparently a long time ago some Almighty Entity of supernatural power called 'GOD, Allah, Buddah or Ghia' or whatever the feck he/she/it wishes to be known' has created the Earth. Right? So if it is generally accepted that "He/She or It" ownes what it has created; then who decided that Mr W; Mrs X; King Y or Queen Z ownes what land upon the Earth? Who gave permission for the "Ownership" of land/water? We are all Animals that reside temporerilly upon the surface of this Planet known to us as 'Earth' are we not? Just as other Animals and Insects, Germs and Microbes live freely upon our planet. Why then do we take it that others are better than ourselves? Why do we pay taxes to those who assume they are better than us? Why do we not live as our sacred entity wished us to live? Who grants the Government 'Permissions' to enslave us, to charge us for our very existance? I wish the Human Animal would resort to a time before the concept of kings queens and governments, before tribes, before greed, when humans could walk freely and feed themselves; without having to pay tax on everything they do, before the concept of 'Ownership and Greed' I am not alone, neither is Mike/Miles. Tony Don't start that crock of shite! 'Generally accepted' my arse! Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 nice ideology,but the fact is back in the days when there was no infrastructure or order,there was chaos! regardless of how some may paint it to be all rosey in the garden. Link to post Share on other sites
lapin2008 1,587 Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 (edited) Who decides what land belongs to each and every one of the Human Animals? Aparently a long time ago some Almighty Entity of supernatural power called 'GOD, Allah, Buddah or Ghia' or whatever the feck he/she/it wishes to be known' has created the Earth. Right? So if it is generally accepted that "He/She or It" ownes what it has created; then who decided that Mr W; Mrs X; King Y or Queen Z ownes what land upon the Earth? Who gave permission for the "Ownership" of land/water? We are all Animals that reside temporerilly upon the surface of this Planet known to us as 'Earth' are we not? Just as other Animals and Insects, Germs and Microbes live freely upon our planet. Why then do we take it that others are better than ourselves? Why do we pay taxes to those who assume they are better than us? Why do we not live as our sacred entity wished us to live? Who grants the Government 'Permissions' to enslave us, to charge us for our very existance? I wish the Human Animal would resort to a time before the concept of kings queens and governments, before tribes, before greed, when humans could walk freely and feed themselves; without having to pay tax on everything they do, before the concept of 'Ownership and Greed' I am not alone, neither is Mike/Miles. Tony Look, the lad tried to steal someone's land and that person didnt like it and booted him off. He seems like a decent enough lad to be fair but what he tried to do is iffy at best and when the correct actual owner came forward he should have had the decency to move on without a fuss and try somewhere else. Your argument in relation to ownership of land and us all being animals that inhabit the earth for a limited period of time etc I feel is wrong. You could apply the same argument to anything that is bought or sold. Your air rifles for example, who gave the person who created them the right to take materials from the earth and sell them? lol So with that in mind would you allow someone to help themselves and then when you ask for it back they turn round and ask you to prove ownership. If you dont have that receipt.. well your bang out of luck...After all we are all animals, and the rifle came from the earth... And who gives one person the right to own it lol There are lots of plots of lands that are not formally owned or where the owners have died and no one has claimed it and where he may get lucky but this is a pretty high risk thing to try and he runs the risk of the same thing happening again. Whats more when it does happen again he has to expect a similar outcome as at the end he is trying to take something that is not his Edited December 14, 2012 by lapin2008 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Bendover 67 Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 Who decides what land belongs to each and every one of the Human Animals? Aparently a long time ago some Almighty Entity of supernatural power called 'GOD, Allah, Buddah or Ghia' or whatever the feck he/she/it wishes to be known' has created the Earth. Right? So if it is generally accepted that "He/She or It" ownes what it has created; then who decided that Mr W; Mrs X; King Y or Queen Z ownes what land upon the Earth? Who gave permission for the "Ownership" of land/water? We are all Animals that reside temporerilly upon the surface of this Planet known to us as 'Earth' are we not? Just as other Animals and Insects, Germs and Microbes live freely upon our planet. Why then do we take it that others are better than ourselves? Why do we pay taxes to those who assume they are better than us? Why do we not live as our sacred entity wished us to live? Who grants the Government 'Permissions' to enslave us, to charge us for our very existance? I wish the Human Animal would resort to a time before the concept of kings queens and governments, before tribes, before greed, when humans could walk freely and feed themselves; without having to pay tax on everything they do, before the concept of 'Ownership and Greed' I am not alone, neither is Mike/Miles. Tony There isn't enough space, resources or food on our island for us all to go back to nature. We would spend the first period of time fighting to secure enough land to support ourselves, tribes would form naturally as we are pack animals. Once a tribe became dominant enough they would naturally assume control. Im not having a dig at all, i just think it would all come full circle. Its in our nature 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Millet 4,497 Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 Who decides what land belongs to each and every one of the Human Animals? Aparently a long time ago some Almighty Entity of supernatural power called 'GOD, Allah, Buddah or Ghia' or whatever the feck he/she/it wishes to be known' has created the Earth. Right? So if it is generally accepted that "He/She or It" ownes what it has created; then who decided that Mr W; Mrs X; King Y or Queen Z ownes what land upon the Earth? Who gave permission for the "Ownership" of land/water? We are all Animals that reside temporerilly upon the surface of this Planet known to us as 'Earth' are we not? Just as other Animals and Insects, Germs and Microbes live freely upon our planet. Why then do we take it that others are better than ourselves? Why do we pay taxes to those who assume they are better than us? Why do we not live as our sacred entity wished us to live? Who grants the Government 'Permissions' to enslave us, to charge us for our very existance? I wish the Human Animal would resort to a time before the concept of kings queens and governments, before tribes, before greed, when humans could walk freely and feed themselves; without having to pay tax on everything they do, before the concept of 'Ownership and Greed' I am not alone, neither is Mike/Miles. Tony Go drag a caravan into the ground's of Kensington palace and you may find the answer..after all know one has the right to own that land.. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom 631 Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 Don't start that crock of shite! 'Generally accepted' my arse! Unfortunately there are more 'believers' in the 'super entity' than there are not, so unfortunately it is "Generally accepted" By your "My Arse" comment it seems we share a common belief that there is no 'Super Entity' nice ideology,but the fact is back in the days when there was no infrastructure or order,there was chaos! regardless of how some may paint it to be all rosey in the garden. I could live with 'Chaos' as indeed could most hunters. If 'society' broke down for any reason; it would be the "Hunters and Gatherers" that would survive would it not? Because we can hunt and gather to feed and clothe ourselves. Our guns, our dogs and our traps would serve us all well would they not? Those who could not would either die or become scavengers. Look, the lad tried to steal someone's land and that person didnt like it and booted him off. He seems like a decent enough lad to be fair but what he tried to do is iffy at best and when the correct actual owner came forward he should have had the decency to move on without a fuss and try somewhere else. Who's land? Sure this guy may have inherited it or bought it, but who purchased the land initially? And whome did he purchase the land from? Who did that person pay for the land? Why does the land owner not charge the birds "Rent" for their nest in his/her trees? How much does he charge the insects to fly in or crawl upon his land. We are animals just as they are! Unfortunately some of us developed 'intelligance' to imposeour will upon others of the same species. Your argument in relation to ownership of land and us all being animals that inhabit the earth for a limited period of time etc I feel is wrong. You could apply the same argument to anything that is bought or sold. Your air rifles for example, who gave the person who created them the right to take materials from the earth and sell them? lol So with that in mind would you allow someone to help themselves and then when you ask for it back they turn round and ask you to prove ownership. If you dont have that receipt.. well your bang out of luck...After all we are all animals, and the rifle came from the earth... And who gives one person the right to own it lol There are lots of plots of lands that are not formally owned or where the owners have died and no one has claimed it and where he may get lucky but this is a pretty high risk thing to try and he runs the risk of the same thing happening again. Whats more when it does happen again he has to expect a similar outcome as at the end he is trying to take something that is not his So you DO SEE what I am getting at then "Formally Owened" is a concept that certain sentient beings force upon others glad you see where I'm comming from There isn't enough space, resources or food on our island for us all to go back to nature. We would spend the first period of time fighting to secure enough land to support ourselves, tribes would form naturally as we are pack animals. Once a tribe became dominant enough they would naturally assume control. Im not having a dig at all, i just think it would all come full circle. Its in our nature Totally agree Unfortunately it is indeed in our nature Go drag a caravan into the ground's of Kensington palace and you may find the answer..after all know one has the right to own that land.. If I had the facilities and opportunity I'd do just that Tony Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom 631 Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 BTW... What is a "Furminator"? Tony Link to post Share on other sites
reddawn 2,173 Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 (edited) phantom would you ask your wife to take your children to live on a piece of tidied up wasteland in a 2 berth van?? dont you think expecting a child or children to live that life is selfish?? Edited December 14, 2012 by reddawn Link to post Share on other sites
BIG G wheton machine 1,594 Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 i think phantom is a cousin of miles with the same presidental speeches, how now brown cow, 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom 631 Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 phantom would you ask your wife to take your children to live on a piece of tidied up wasteland in a 2 berth van?? dont you think expecting a child or children to live that life is selfish?? I did, she said no! Her choice Were divorced now My mother, two sisters and two brothers lived in a caravan in Cornwall before my 'father' killed one of my brothers. Then they moved into a council house and lived in society as 'normal' until it slipped out that my mother was of Jewish decscent! Then all hell broke loose and we had to move areas! Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom 631 Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 i think phantom is a cousin of miles with the same presidental speeches, how now brown cow, You've got no room to talk, fecking ell you lot scrap at the removal of a flag from a building or cuz someone wears an orange tabbard! Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,763 Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 Don't start that crock of shite! 'Generally accepted' my arse! Unfortunately there are more 'believers' in the 'super entity' than there are not, so unfortunately it is "Generally accepted" By your "My Arse" comment it seems we share a common belief that there is no 'Super Entity' That's just undermined your argument............. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
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