Born Hunter 17,763 Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 This sort of thing always confuses the hell out of me. Beddy cross is accepted but any other terrier cross is laughable? On paper, knowing nothing but what I have read, it sounds like it might have potential as a general purpose whirrier type imo. What I have read about the Jagd appeals to me and the type of terrier I like. I wonder if they would yap? Being known as a hard terrier (sometimes called too hard) I would imagine there are lines that throw a lot of mute dogs. Though they do seem to differ in purpose and function to suit the requirements of different countries...... 4 Quote Link to post
Dan McDonough 560 Posted December 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 That's more like it. Thanks guys. Scott, your right on the money. It's not like I'm looking to use any old Jagd. In fact the one I've got here would be one of the best bred Jagds in Germany. I was very lucky to get him and I honestly can't belive something that tested so high and has the ped. of this dog ever got out of Germany in the first place. Any how, at this point it will just be something for me to fool around with. Quote Link to post
chris87 297 Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 best of luck keep us posted if you do decide to go @ he@d with it Quote Link to post
byron 1,179 Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 all the best to you whatever matey... Quote Link to post
Dan McDonough 560 Posted December 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Didn't mean to be confrontational, it's just something I've wanted to do for a long time. I've had jagd's for about thirteen years and I've always thought that the real fast jagds would be fun to do this with. I didn't used to do much ground work with them but since I got into bobcat hunting with the hounds thats about all I use them for. I think a cross like that would be handy to run with the hounds when a little quickness in tight cover could end a race faster. I'm not looking to start a new breed or even a line of lurchers. If some folks want to join in for the fun I'll be all for that but my plans for now are very much my own as I don't know of more than a couple of guys who would want to try one over here in the states. Quote Link to post
Dan McDonough 560 Posted December 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Another thing, traditionally the lurchers are suposed to be quiet and not make noise when they run game. We don't need them to be quiet here in the states. We can run just about anything we want in season and have a number of animals that have no season or limit. Are there any other advantages to having a quiet dog? Quote Link to post
BEARINATOR 2,869 Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Another thing, traditionally the lurchers are suposed to be quiet and not make noise when they run game. We don't need them to be quiet here in the states. We can run just about anything we want in season and have a number of animals that have no season or limit. Are there any other advantages to having a quiet dog? None mate, just lurchers are bred to be silent for when they were used for poaching Quote Link to post
fitchet 788 Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Another thing, traditionally the lurchers are suposed to be quiet and not make noise when they run game. We don't need them to be quiet here in the states. We can run just about anything we want in season and have a number of animals that have no season or limit. Are there any other advantages to having a quiet dog? None mate, just lurchers are bred to be silent for when they were used for poaching A dog that yaps while running wastes alot of valuable oxygen I THINK. If you think this cross would work for you then go for it. Atb Quote Link to post
Simoman 110 Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Didn't mean to be confrontational, it's just something I've wanted to do for a long time. I've had jagd's for about thirteen years and I've always thought that the real fast jagds would be fun to do this with. I didn't used to do much ground work with them but since I got into bobcat hunting with the hounds thats about all I use them for. I think a cross like that would be handy to run with the hounds when a little quickness in tight cover could end a race faster. I'm not looking to start a new breed or even a line of lurchers. If some folks want to join in for the fun I'll be all for that but my plans for now are very much my own as I don't know of more than a couple of guys who would want to try one over here in the states. You weren't confrontational at all mate. It wasn't clear you were in the states or what you wanted such a cross for, best of luck.... Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Do it Dan. I think they'd be fun to jack ass around with also. My buddy has a little black terrier that I'd breed to one of my gyps if I had more of a use for the pups just for the fun of it. I like fukkin round with crazy shit like this. Quote Link to post
j j m 6,539 Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 I can't see the point in crossing these two Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 I was gonna ad that I got me a half cross here that is got bulldog and airedale in him. He is a huntin sumbitch. First coyote he caught this year was cuz he run a track to it and then winded it and caught the sumbitch all by himself. He werent gonna get it kilt I dont think but it wasnt goin nowhere neither. Since then he as really been kililn em for fun. I also got me a bulldog/cur cross here that I may breed to my Ellie gyp in the future if he turns out to be rough enough and he wants the throat on everything he kills. Quote Link to post
forest of dean redneck 11,606 Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Another thing, traditionally the lurchers are suposed to be quiet and not make noise when they run game. We don't need them to be quiet here in the states. We can run just about anything we want in season and have a number of animals that have no season or limit. Are there any other advantages to having a quiet dog? None mate, just lurchers are bred to be silent for when they were used for poaching A dog that yaps while running wastes alot of valuable oxygen I THINK. If you think this cross would work for you then go for it. Atb it will also clear a field of rabbits. 1 Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 I can't see the point in crossing these two And I cant see the point in breeding to a fukkin track greyhound either but folks do it all the damn time. These dogs he would be using to walk hunt shit and catch it quickly not spotlighting rabbits even though I'd bet ya they could do that too. 1 Quote Link to post
Dan McDonough 560 Posted December 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 Dan- It sure wouldn't be my be all end all dog. Fact is, the more I think about it the more I keep thinking I'd like something a bit bigger. About a month ago I stood next to a whippet from the kennel you recomended that was 24". I wish I had one that big. I do however have open permission to breed to that dog...huge bonus. I also have a pup coming from the same breeding as the 3rd, 4th and 8th place dogs (all 3 are whippets, the other 7/10 are salukis) in the NOFCA (open coursing) standings for this last season. The idea that any whippet could compete in open coursing on hares with salukis and greyhounds kind of blows me away given their size. By the way, all three of the above mentioned whippets are from the same breeder and a portion of that breeding comes from that kennel you recomended. If you've spent much time trying to get a whippet in the states you know why I'm being coy about identifying anything specifically. Anyhow, I'm going to try and get this right but it's costing me an arm and a leg to get there. At some point I think I'm going to go bigger. Maybe whippet x jagd x stag...it's all just thoughts right now and may change in a couple of minutes when I learn something new. Still, it's fun to think about. Quote Link to post
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