mushroom 13,391 Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 (edited) He might rant and rave but a lot off his thinking is RIGHT . . .those running the Country are Corrupt from top to bottom as far as I'm concerned and also sing off the same Hymn Sheet as the journalists who brain wash most off the people with what they write , there ALL in each others Pockets ! Seriously?? The guy is a prize mong who shouts his bolloccks off about anything he knows fec all about So when he is talking about Corruption he is Wrong ? Not in my Book he isn't few examples Cash For Questions , Cash for Citizenship , Mandelson Sacked 3 Yes 3 times for Corruption and each time reinstated !! Blair passing laws giving his Wife's Law firm the right to Millions through defending illegal immigrants , as for Police corruption where do I start . . Hillsboro maybe or Birmingham 6 no maybe Jimmy Saville . . . These are the Tip Off An Ice Berg That Would Sink America , where being Held Responsible for Bank Corruption , Imigrants bringing this country to its Knees . . . . The man is TRYING TO GET ACROSS HOW CORRUPT THE COUNTRY IS FROM THOSE IN POWER , though maybe he needs to Calm down a little lol , If you can't see what's gone/going on then I won't be able to get it across to you on here mate ! I am very much aware of what goes on mate but this guy is a tit can't stand the loudmouthed priick plus the conspiracy shite he chats is ridiculous. Here be an attention seeker Edited to correct spelling just woke up coffee still not kicked in Edited December 6, 2012 by mushroom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Why do so many people in full time employment need benifits to survive Because the cost of living is too high and the wages are too low.. that itself tells you something, most of the jobs now are part time so benifits make it up to a living wage, How will this get us out of the mess were in. yes the unemployment figures will be down but nothing has changed Exactly, it's just cooking the books. The government should be concentrating on job creation. The jobs lost during the deindustrialisation under the Thatcher government have never been replaced, and the subsequent growth of the financial sector that followed meant we could afford not to replace them and a benefit culture has sprung up. Most of the non working benefit claimants who have never worked are the children and grandchildren of those who would have once worked in industrial type jobs.. Add to this the competition for jobs from cheap foreign labour and you have the huge clusterfuck that we currently have.. Now the financial sector has gone to shit, we are f****d because we can no longer afford to subsidise those who are not in work.. It's all very well pointing the finger at those who know no other life other than the non working, benefit claiming one, but fingers should be pointed at the successive governments who allowed this to happen in the first place. You are not fighting a few lazy, work shy b*****ds in trying to get folk off the welfare system, you are fighting a whole culture.. If this was a failing football team we were talking about, we would be blaming the manager for failing to get the most out of the players he had under him.. If it was a company, we'd be blaming the managers and directors at the top.. There's a saying, 'a bad tradesman always blames his tools', and what are the people if not the money making tools of the government? Some are old and past it, some downright useless, but most could be sharpened up again and put to use with the right knowledge and application.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
graham4877 1,181 Posted December 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 what i'd really like to no is, how do the work shy people afford to keep the heating on each winter? because we are doing £30- 40 a week in gas Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 spot on malt thing is this goverment,f**k it every goverment of every nation should see the warning signs here.this generation and future ones are a different breed.not like us and past generations,who just took whatever that was dished out.moaned and just got on with it.however not the case these days.we have a lot of disgruntled bored jobless skint folk in this world,and we got a wee taste of what they can do when they decide to riot.even brutal dictators cant hang onto things when everyone has had enough.i hope im wrong cause it would only damage the nation more,but you can rip the piss out of someone so much,before they respond. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
graham4877 1,181 Posted December 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 spot on malt thing is this goverment,f**k it every goverment of every nation should see the warning signs here.this generation and future ones are a different breed.not like us and past generations,who just took whatever that was dished out.moaned and just got on with it.however not the case these days.we have a lot of disgruntled bored jobless skint folk in this world,and we got a wee taste of what they can do when they decide to riot.even brutal dictators cant hang onto things when everyone has had enough.i hope im wrong cause it would only damage the nation more,but you can rip the piss out of someone so much,before they respond. I think we are going to have a big old revolution, and the govt fear it, juts need to look at the jail that was handed out with the riots Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 spot on malt thing is this goverment,f**k it every goverment of every nation should see the warning signs here.this generation and future ones are a different breed.not like us and past generations,who just took whatever that was dished out.moaned and just got on with it.however not the case these days.we have a lot of disgruntled bored jobless skint folk in this world,and we got a wee taste of what they can do when they decide to riot.even brutal dictators cant hang onto things when everyone has had enough.i hope im wrong cause it would only damage the nation more,but you can rip the piss out of someone so much,before they respond. I think we are going to have a big old revolution, and the govt fear it, juts need to look at the jail that was handed out with the riots Thats why they're chucking huge emphasis on the out of work - give the masses a minority to pick on and it keeps their anger focused away from where it should be.. If they were creating jobs and still people wouldn't work, then they might have a point.. I can't see any other logic in their current arguments, if the work was there then fair enough.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 like you say graham,if they cant keep themselfs and there kids warm,or put food in there belly.they will just take it.if im honest i dont blame them.if i was ever at the stage where i hadnt eaten for days.id go into the nearest supermarket and help myself.more so if i had starving kids.it never used to bother me,when you saw big state banquets on tv.or the politicians getting wined and dined.but its diffrent these days,and its basically rubbing folks faces in it when they see all that on tv,while toiling to heat there homes.i feel for the old people.they must sit there at times in bewilderment at how this world turned out,bet for some death cant come quick enough 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
graham4877 1,181 Posted December 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 good point mal! I'd do the same scot, pisses me off how we are all in it to together, put mp's are getting more money Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 another thing is, people say it pays to have lots of kids on benifits, well the truth be told a couple on benifits with say 3 kids get the same amount in child benifits as a couple who are both working, each couple would get family allowance and child tax credits so theres another myth exposed, the fact is plain and simple the state wants you to be dependant on them wether working, unemployed or retired Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gaz 284 Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 spot on malt thing is this goverment,f**k it every goverment of every nation should see the warning signs here.this generation and future ones are a different breed.not like us and past generations,who just took whatever that was dished out.moaned and just got on with it.however not the case these days.we have a lot of disgruntled bored jobless skint folk in this world,and we got a wee taste of what they can do when they decide to riot.even brutal dictators cant hang onto things when everyone has had enough.i hope im wrong cause it would only damage the nation more,but you can rip the piss out of someone so much,before they respond. I think we are going to have a big old revolution, and the govt fear it, juts need to look at the jail that was handed out with the riots Thats why they're chucking huge emphasis on the out of work - give the masses a minority to pick on and it keeps their anger focused away from where it should be.. If they were creating jobs and still people wouldn't work, then they might have a point.. I can't see any other logic in their current arguments, if the work was there then fair enough.. Nail on the head Malt....but it always makes me laugh how so many cant see this or having it to be pointed out before the penny drops! but i'll tell you whats more bud its always the way when the shit hits the fan for the suited stooges to put the boot into the vulnerable that are a easy target for them esp those on benifits.....and do you know why? cause it keeps folk divided and at each others throats to try and distract us from seeing who the fuk are really shafting us all 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeakOil 352 Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 (edited) Panem et circenses, still as relevant as it was 2000 years ago and still in use like it was 2000 years ago. Probably still be in use 2000 years from now. Or should that be pan y toros fer't dwarf? Edited December 6, 2012 by PeakOil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Panem et circenses, still as relevant as it was 2000 years ago and still in use like it was 2000 years ago. Probably still be in use 2000 years from now. Or should that be pan y toros fer't dwarf? bread and circuses and bread and bullfights Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 starbucks have agreed to pay £20.000.000 over the next 2 years Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paid 935 Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Thought they had dodged something like 47 million Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Thought they had dodged something like 47 million how is they can bargin with the inland revenue when no fooker else can Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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