Autumn Statement; austerity is about social control

[lanesra 4,003]

He might rant and rave but a lot off his thinking is RIGHT . . .those running the Country are Corrupt from top to bottom as far as I'm concerned and also sing off the same Hymn Sheet as the journalists who brain wash most off the people with what they write , there ALL in each others Pockets !

 

[mushroom 13,395]

He might rant and rave but a lot off his thinking is RIGHT . . .those running the Country are Corrupt from top to bottom as far as I'm concerned and also sing off the same Hymn Sheet as the journalists who brain wash most off the people with what they write , there ALL in each others Pockets !

 

Seriously??

 

The guy is a prize mong who shouts his bolloccks off about anything he knows fec all about

[Richie10 345]

So Labour spend all the money(as usual), giving benefits and investment to all. Then they get kicked out as they have no idea how to turn the economy around because they invested badly. The Tories get in and have to recoup the money and they are seen as the bad guys.

 

Sorry but that's absolute bollocks and its been churned out by every government comming in after a change.. Government spending has increased under this lot and our deficit is growing at a faster rate, despite all the austerity measures and supposed cuts in government spending.. The current problems are on a global scale, yet people still fall for the same old 'it was the last governments fault that we're failing and haven't got a clue how to get out of the shit' line..

 

Well, it has happened before with Labour, we had to go to the US to bail us out. I cannot remember the exact year.

 

I don't think the mass immigration from Labour helped either....

[The Seeker 3,048]

It's a sad truth that there are many many people who live in the UK who not only have decided to live on benifits but think it is an acceptable way of life, this isn't just a "modern generation" we are in some instances 3 generations down the line having the same mentality.

"you try surviving on £70.00 a week" is the usual argument of people who choose the way of life but it isn't is it? it's child benifits it's disability living allowence, its working tax credits, its council tax allowance its subsidised rent etc etc the people living this way of life milk the system for all it's worth.

 

All this money has to come from somewhere and it comes from tax payers of which I'm one, my circumstances sound very similar to Nik_Bs working my boll*cks off for the last 25 years to provide for my family, I have two kids would have liked more but decided we couldn't afford them which is the opposite to the guy on benefits more kids and his income increases how does that work

 

Social welfare was intended to help the people in society who have fallen on foul times either through health or forced unemployment and for those reading this who have been made redundant and are trying to get back into work you have my full support and I believe our country should provide you with a financial safety net for several months until your back on your feet and working again.

 

The perpetuation of banging out kids living on benefits and thinking the country owes you a living is the biggest drain on the country today IT DOES NOT, forget super tax, tax the rich and all that at least they are contributing to the economy and if you carry on trying to get them to fill the void created by the social benifits system they will just bugger off and take their business somewhere else.

 

If I sound a little bitter about this when Im working my boll*cks off having 40% of my wage taken off me to pay for the dozen or so guys sat outside the boozer smoking 20 rothmans and drinking ale yes you could say I'm a little irked by it

[tandors 888]

Companies like tesco and starbucks I wouldn't class as wealth or job creators most jobs are low paid part time work mainly suited to students or housewives and usually result in the closing down of independent small businesses in the local area. With regard to benefits etc. it seems the government no matter who's running it wants every aspect of people's lives to be dependent on the state apart from the people at the very top.

[paulus 26]

benifits are also paid to people in work, child tax credits, council tax rebate, family allowence ect ,should theses not be classed as free handouts aswell as the dole or whatever its called now, i wonder what the proportion of the total benifit is actually paid to the unemployed as opposed to the amount paid to people in work the same goes for disability fraud i read somewhere the estimated fraud is half of one percent so is the problem really as big as the powers that be would have us believe

[bigdaz 688]

benifits are also paid to people in work, child tax credits, council tax rebate, family allowence ect ,should theses not be classed as free handouts aswell as the dole or whatever its called now, i wonder what the proportion of the total benifit is actually paid to the unemployed as opposed to the amount paid to people in work the same goes for disability fraud i read somewhere the estimated fraud is half of one percent so is the problem really as big as the powers that be would have us believe

 

I know quite a few folk on disability, they all have one thing in common, they're not disabled.

[paulus 26]

benifits are also paid to people in work, child tax credits, council tax rebate, family allowence ect ,should theses not be classed as free handouts aswell as the dole or whatever its called now, i wonder what the proportion of the total benifit is actually paid to the unemployed as opposed to the amount paid to people in work the same goes for disability fraud i read somewhere the estimated fraud is half of one percent so is the problem really as big as the powers that be would have us believe

 

I know quite a few folk on disability, they all have one thing in common, they're not disabled.

im not saying there isnt fraud but what is the true cost. all have been assesed as disabled to some extent or other by a goverment endorsed health organisation to standards set out by the goverment. ATOS health care is paid a fortune to do it and other job service providers are paid up to £16000 to get an unemployed person into work fooking madness i work as a caseworker for an ex forces charity and there are a lot of very real and deserving cases out there

[Paid 935]

More than half of one % from what i see about me.

[lanesra 4,003]

He might rant and rave but a lot off his thinking is RIGHT . . .those running the Country are Corrupt from top to bottom as far as I'm concerned and also sing off the same Hymn Sheet as the journalists who brain wash most off the people with what they write , there ALL in each others Pockets !

 

Seriously??

 

The guy is a prize mong who shouts his bolloccks off about anything he knows fec all about

So when he is talking about Corruption he is Wrong ? Not in my Book he isn't few examples Cash For Questions , Cash for Citizenship , Mandelson Sacked 3 Yes 3 times for Corruption and each time reinstated !! Blair passing laws giving his Wife's Law firm the right to Millions through defending illegal immigrants , as for Police corruption where do I start . . Hillsboro maybe or Birmingham 6 no maybe Jimmy Saville . . . These are the Tip Off An Ice Berg That Would Sink America , where being Held Responsible for Bank Corruption , Imigrants bringing this country to its Knees . . . . The man is TRYING TO GET ACROSS HOW CORRUPT THE COUNTRY IS FROM THOSE IN POWER , though maybe he needs to Calm down a little lol , If you can't see what's gone/going on then I won't be able to get it across to you on here mate !

 

[tandors 888]

http://www.moneyweek.com/news-and-charts/economics/uk/end-of-britain-uk-government-debt-spending-interest-rates

Haven't read it all seems a reputable website maybe the preppers aren't mad lol

[staffs riffraff 1,068]

They will be taxing Kids pocket money soon enough n how they expect people get jobs when there letting in all the worlds scumbags Russians (that ain't even in the EU) claiming dole rent and getting a council flat asking everyone down the street to get him some pot so I say f**k it until we in this country who are meant to be here get put

first then get what you can while you can. We now have to provide nhs services to anyone in the country illegals even coming in with high rates

of HIV/aids toburculosis etc it only going to get worse and a lot worse at that and maybe never get better maybe the west has peaked and had its day? They civilisations implode in on themselves When get too big?

[graham4877 1,181]

It's a sad truth that there are many many people who live in the UK who not only have decided to live on benifits but think it is an acceptable way of life, this isn't just a "modern generation" we are in some instances 3 generations down the line having the same mentality.

"you try surviving on £70.00 a week" is the usual argument of people who choose the way of life but it isn't is it? it's child benifits it's disability living allowence, its working tax credits, its council tax allowance its subsidised rent etc etc the people living this way of life milk the system for all it's worth.

 

All this money has to come from somewhere and it comes from tax payers of which I'm one, my circumstances sound very similar to Nik_Bs working my boll*cks off for the last 25 years to provide for my family, I have two kids would have liked more but decided we couldn't afford them which is the opposite to the guy on benefits more kids and his income increases how does that work

 

Social welfare was intended to help the people in society who have fallen on foul times either through health or forced unemployment and for those reading this who have been made redundant and are trying to get back into work you have my full support and I believe our country should provide you with a financial safety net for several months until your back on your feet and working again.

 

The perpetuation of banging out kids living on benefits and thinking the country owes you a living is the biggest drain on the country today IT DOES NOT, forget super tax, tax the rich and all that at least they are contributing to the economy and if you carry on trying to get them to fill the void created by the social benifits system they will just bugger off and take their business somewhere else.

 

If I sound a little bitter about this when Im working my boll*cks off having 40% of my wage taken off me to pay for the dozen or so guys sat outside the boozer smoking 20 rothmans and drinking ale yes you could say I'm a little irked by it

your joking right?? theirs no safety net,well there wasn't for me, I was made redundant in April 2009, i'd normally pay £185 tax and ni a week as i worked all the hours i could get, I used to sit reading all this bullshit in papers about the none working and how much money they got bla bla bla, now i new then it was going to be a struggle to get a job, but me being a mug sucked all that shit up in papers, thinking oh , £65 pound a week rent and every thing paid for we'l be ok.. lol

how f*****g wrong was i, the c**ts only gave me £11:23 a week, and you know the shit they said about why i was getting that much was unreal,..............

I'd had 2 month off sick, as i'd fallen from a platform at work on to a steel plate that had just being rolled,(steel mill) done my back in burnt my elbow and hand while i was trying to get off this fecking glowing red hot plate, anyway doc said no you'l need time off, gave me a sick note, so i handed it into work and they paid me SSP1, so now them c**ts at the dole said i had not worked for last full 2 years, so i toled them yes i'd had time off , but on ssp so i was still classed as working, oh no not with them i wasn't, then they said i'd not paid more then £400 tax and ni in the last year, so i was like wft , gets my p60's for the last 2 years so to prove to them it was bull shit, so they looked at my claim, and after 4 weeks i got a letter saying i was only going to get 23p a week...because i was still working??? rang them up feller said same shit, i told him you have my f*****g letter to say i was made redundant, after fiddling about with his pc, he said oh yes sir your right, well redo it as it a mistake, few days later i had to sign on so i went in got f****d about again,wanting me to do this course, i said are you going to be paying for my transport, like last time(getting recoded for welding) got told no not thsi time, so i said her have a read of that letter, so how the f**k am i going to pay for my travel on 23p a week? oh right, but you'l have to do it,,lol singed off and told them to stick it, started GT lure it was a bit slow at the star, had to do work on cars and other shit to get by,t but its keeping us going now, it works out around the same sort of money as i'd get for doing 40 hours a week, in half that time, so get to spend more time with kids so i'm happy now! but when i see people saying people on dole or sick have it easy i think back to them times, and it get my f*****g back up!

 

yeah i know theirs scum out there robbing us blind, but all i'd do is anyone not working pree 2008 and people who've never worked I'd be forcing them into placements !

[twobob 1,497]

It's a sad truth that there are many many people who live in the UK who not only have decided to live on benifits but think it is an acceptable way of life, this isn't just a "modern generation" we are in some instances 3 generations down the line having the same mentality.

"you try surviving on £70.00 a week" is the usual argument of people who choose the way of life but it isn't is it? it's child benifits it's disability living allowence, its working tax credits, its council tax allowance its subsidised rent etc etc the people living this way of life milk the system for all it's worth.

 

All this money has to come from somewhere and it comes from tax payers of which I'm one, my circumstances sound very similar to Nik_Bs working my boll*cks off for the last 25 years to provide for my family, I have two kids would have liked more but decided we couldn't afford them which is the opposite to the guy on benefits more kids and his income increases how does that work

 

Social welfare was intended to help the people in society who have fallen on foul times either through health or forced unemployment and for those reading this who have been made redundant and are trying to get back into work you have my full support and I believe our country should provide you with a financial safety net for several months until your back on your feet and working again.

 

The perpetuation of banging out kids living on benefits and thinking the country owes you a living is the biggest drain on the country today IT DOES NOT, forget super tax, tax the rich and all that at least they are contributing to the economy and if you carry on trying to get them to fill the void created by the social benifits system they will just bugger off and take their business somewhere else.

 

If I sound a little bitter about this when Im working my boll*cks off having 40% of my wage taken off me to pay for the dozen or so guys sat outside the boozer smoking 20 rothmans and drinking ale yes you could say I'm a little irked by it

starbucks arnt buggering off ,and are in talks to pay more tax that they dont need to pay ,makes ye think dun it?

[The Seeker 3,048]

It's a sad truth that there are many many people who live in the UK who not only have decided to live on benifits but think it is an acceptable way of life, this isn't just a "modern generation" we are in some instances 3 generations down the line having the same mentality.

"you try surviving on £70.00 a week" is the usual argument of people who choose the way of life but it isn't is it? it's child benifits it's disability living allowence, its working tax credits, its council tax allowance its subsidised rent etc etc the people living this way of life milk the system for all it's worth.

 

All this money has to come from somewhere and it comes from tax payers of which I'm one, my circumstances sound very similar to Nik_Bs working my boll*cks off for the last 25 years to provide for my family, I have two kids would have liked more but decided we couldn't afford them which is the opposite to the guy on benefits more kids and his income increases how does that work

 

Social welfare was intended to help the people in society who have fallen on foul times either through health or forced unemployment and for those reading this who have been made redundant and are trying to get back into work you have my full support and I believe our country should provide you with a financial safety net for several months until your back on your feet and working again.

 

The perpetuation of banging out kids living on benefits and thinking the country owes you a living is the biggest drain on the country today IT DOES NOT, forget super tax, tax the rich and all that at least they are contributing to the economy and if you carry on trying to get them to fill the void created by the social benifits system they will just bugger off and take their business somewhere else.

 

If I sound a little bitter about this when Im working my boll*cks off having 40% of my wage taken off me to pay for the dozen or so guys sat outside the boozer smoking 20 rothmans and drinking ale yes you could say I'm a little irked by it

your joking right?? theirs no safety net,well there wasn't for me, I was made redundant in April 2009, i'd normally pay £185 tax and ni a week as i worked all the hours i could get, I used to sit reading all this bullshit in papers about the none working and how much money they got bla bla bla, now i new then it was going to be a struggle to get a job, but me being a mug sucked all that shit up in papers, thinking oh , £65 pound a week rent and every thing paid for we'l be ok.. lol

how f*****g wrong was i, the c**ts only gave me £11:23 a week, and you know the shit they said about why i was getting that much was unreal,..............

I'd had 2 month off sick, as i'd fallen from a platform at work on to a steel plate that had just being rolled,(steel mill) done my back in burnt my elbow and hand while i was trying to get off this fecking glowing red hot plate, anyway doc said no you'l need time off, gave me a sick note, so i handed it into work and they paid me SSP1, so now them c**ts at the dole said i had not worked for last full 2 years, so i toled them yes i'd had time off , but on ssp so i was still classed as working, oh no not with them i wasn't, then they said i'd not paid more then £400 tax and ni in the last year, so i was like wft , gets my p60's for the last 2 years so to prove to them it was bull shit, so they looked at my claim, and after 4 weeks i got a letter saying i was only going to get 23p a week...because i was still working??? rang them up feller said same shit, i told him you have my f*****g letter to say i was made redundant, after fiddling about with his pc, he said oh yes sir your right, well redo it as it a mistake, few days later i had to sign on so i went in got f****d about again,wanting me to do this course, i said are you going to be paying for my transport, like last time(getting recoded for welding) got told no not thsi time, so i said her have a read of that letter, so how the f**k am i going to pay for my travel on 23p a week? oh right, but you'l have to do it,,lol singed off and told them to stick it, started GT lure it was a bit slow at the star, had to do work on cars and other shit to get by,t but its keeping us going now, it works out around the same sort of money as i'd get for doing 40 hours a week, in half that time, so get to spend more time with kids so i'm happy now! but when i see people saying people on dole or sick have it easy i think back to them times, and it get my f*****g back up!

 

yeah i know theirs scum out there robbing us blind, but all i'd do is anyone not working pree 2008 and people who've never worked I'd be forcing them into placements !

 

You see your exactly the type of person that the system SHOULD be helping but the reality is there is so much money being wasted and I mean billions on benifits, fraudulent claims etc they are pissing all the money up the wall so when a genuine claimant walks through the door your means tested and shafted, I don't think redundancy money should be included in the assessment you've worked and paid taxes and that redundancy severance pay should be you reward for the years you've spent working for the company who no longer need your services. Not for some tw*t in a DWP to tell you you can't claim anything. I also STRONGLY believe the means testing should include how much you've paid into the system through PAYE and NI, if I've worked 25 years and contributed thousands and thousands of tax for the govt then when the sh*t hits the fan why should I be competing for money with a guy who's only turned up for a job for a month and packed it in cause it "wasn't for him". Same as the NHS if my hip needs replacing in 20 years time why should I be on the waiting list behind the guy who's made a career out of not working and eating McDonalds all his life.

 

Social welfare is a joke mate but we get what we deserve when we put the cross on the paper.