david2363 42 Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 A few Beddy pictures. Fisrst ones of my young dog Spike with a tree rat he caught tonight. The last one one taken at Nicky Newburns F&MWTC Show yesterday. Aluns dog Seamus, all the way up from Welsh Wales. A very nice working type Beddy. Quote Link to post
swanseajack 227 Posted July 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 how spannable are beddies, ive got one here whos 5 months old and i can just touch my fingers together, i understand i have short stubby fingers (a family curse) but surely at that young spanning souldnt be a problem A lot are too big, they also need to be narrow because of their size, I can span Milly easily enough as with most of the other dogs, the ones I have put up pics of. See that gap in the gate behind tag in the pic below... It's 3 3/4" wide......... We couldn't work out how he was getting out.... This is him laying in the grass, methinks the lil fecker would get through a letter box David anymore pics from Nicky show ? met Alan in the Rhonnda show, nice type suited to what he does... Quote Link to post
Bedly 1 Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 That's a great photo! What a squeeze. Is that gap about 4 inches? You'd never believe it without seeing it. My late Beddy was a great one for squeezing under things like gates, but I doubt she'd have tackled a gap like that. My pup is still spannable, but is over 17 inches at the shoulder, and he's not 8 months old. He doesn't look big, to me anyway, and I got a shock when I measured him. He's the bloke whose brother died of polycystic kidney disease, so I won't breed from him, as he's probably a carrier. It is a variable disease, well known in Bull Terriers in which it has autosomal dominant inheritance; but in Cairns and Westies it is recessive. It is not known in Bedlingtons until now, but looks to be recessive in this case. Has anybody come across it in terriers? Quote Link to post
Guest pip Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Great read lads Beds aren t common over here any ive seen at the shows are nt nearly as tidy or strong looking dogs as these ones,a fella i know brought one over from England to breed lurchers from and said he never had as hard a terrier in his yard. Is there no tests you could get done to see whether that dog carries that disease? Quote Link to post
Bedly 1 Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Where are you, Pip, if you're not in England? No, there's no test to screen for the gene for the disease. It's very common in Persian cats, and they do have a gene test for them, but so far they can't get anything working for dogs. They can do an ultrasound to see if the dog has the disease, that is, symptoms, but if the dog is healthy and is a carrier of the dud gene, you can't tell. One day they'll have a test, just as they have for the copper toxicosis gene. One thing I was considering was breeding this Beddie to a Whippet to get lurchers, but I'm now cautious about spreading a disease gene about - if he has it! Quote Link to post
david2363 42 Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 I'm not saying that working type BEDLINGTONS don't suffer from illness and disease, but but would I be right in assuming that Bedley's dog is a show bred dog? These PSEUDO BEDLINGTONS carry more than their fair share of medical complaints, copper toxicosis, liver/kidney problems and chronic eye problems to name but a few. Generally speaking, these mutant parodies of what was once a good all round sporting terrier are a pitifull shadow of the real thing. I could go on, but there is money in passing these poodles off to the gullible dog buying public, "Looks of the lamb and courage of the lion" - Don't make me laugh. Quote Link to post
Guest pip Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Where are you, Pip, if you're not in England?No, there's no test to screen for the gene for the disease. It's very common in Persian cats, and they do have a gene test for them, but so far they can't get anything working for dogs. They can do an ultrasound to see if the dog has the disease, that is, symptoms, but if the dog is healthy and is a carrier of the dud gene, you can't tell. One day they'll have a test, just as they have for the copper toxicosis gene. One thing I was considering was breeding this Beddie to a Whippet to get lurchers, but I'm now cautious about spreading a disease gene about - if he has it! N Ireland ive never sen a bed work but i do believe the lad as he never got to breed of it as it didn t last that long,so it wasn t a sales pitch Quote Link to post
Bedly 1 Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 David, you are dead right: he is a show bred Bedlington. That's all you can get in this country. I'd have got a working type if any had been available. Of course, I could have imported one from the UK, but you have to know what you are doing, what's around, what lines are sound, what breeders are honest etc, etc. Basically I wanted a pet anyway, but one that might bush a few rabbits and be fun to take on country rambles. These show-bred (pseudo) Bedlingtons are great pets and very appealing in character, and I love this little bloke. I hope before long to go to the UK to suss out the dog scene, and maybe bring a good Beddy home. I wouldn't accept on face value that the show types are worse than others for diseases etc. I'll bet there is CT in working strains, and they wouldn't all screen breeding stock the way reputable show breeders do. Mind you, it was show breeding within a small gene pool than produced a lot of these problems in the first place. I'd put up a photo of my dog if I knew how. Quote Link to post
coco 261 Posted July 16, 2007 Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 Not read this thread for a while, sorry about you pup jack No worries mate, I put it down to experience and blamed myself... a lot has changed in my life over the last few weeks and I have moved to pastures new...... My GSD's are doing fine, both owners keep ringing me and telling me how good mannerered and well trained they are... Which I knew anyway... My Lurcher bitch is doing fine, Just wish she was with me now... Fecking game everywhere..... And my terriers, that came with me are settling in well... When I get some time I'll fill u all i as to what I'm doing !!! nice pics jack im putting that hard fell dog on nickys bitch ill send you a photo of him if you want one let me know coco jack mike phoned we might breed freddy to maisey they b nice pups Quote Link to post
welshdragon 6 Posted July 16, 2007 Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 hi Bedly i bought a beddy bitch from ROTHERAM abuot 6 years ago working lines the chap i had it off had the line for years i had the bitch for 18 months and i lost the bitch to CT when i find her papers ill pm it to you W.D Quote Link to post
swanseajack 227 Posted July 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 Not read this thread for a while, sorry about you pup jack No worries mate, I put it down to experience and blamed myself... a lot has changed in my life over the last few weeks and I have moved to pastures new...... My GSD's are doing fine, both owners keep ringing me and telling me how good mannerered and well trained they are... Which I knew anyway... My Lurcher bitch is doing fine, Just wish she was with me now... Fecking game everywhere..... And my terriers, that came with me are settling in well... When I get some time I'll fill u all i as to what I'm doing !!! nice pics jack im putting that hard fell dog on nickys bitch ill send you a photo of him if you want one let me know coco jack mike phoned we might breed freddy to maisey they b nice pups Freddy... FFS speak to Printer use one of his.............. Quote Link to post
Guest nitevision Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 skinner,now 4 1/2 month. Quote Link to post
Guest nitevision Posted August 3, 2007 Report Share Posted August 3, 2007 my two beddy crosses,doing a bit of who is the man. Quote Link to post
swanseajack 227 Posted August 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 skinner,now 4 1/2 month. He's looking good mate.. get some more pics up side on shots etc.. Quote Link to post
Guest nitevision Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 this is best pic out of a few mate,little fecker wont keep still Quote Link to post
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