twotone 6 Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Best of luck with the pups SJ Quote Link to post
griffo 28 Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 They're good strong pup's! its good to see proper worker to worker pup's as most litters you see advertised have solely rabbitin parents living off a "yeah the grand sire was a hard earth dog but the dam and sire have only seen rabbits and rats" type of attitude that'll eventually water down the proper foxing beddy earth dog blood. I think beddy's should be bred more responsibly like other breed's (fells,patt's etc.) whereby earth dog to earth dog, worker to worker are bred, this in turn should keep the true working beddy blood alive instead of turning it into mix mash hit or miss type dog that seems to be getting more common. sorry about my rant but what are your views? cheers Quote Link to post
david2363 42 Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 My view is that you should at least get them in front of a fox - the results can be surprising. As for rats and rabbits, it's all good fun, but any dog can do that. Quote Link to post
swanseajack 227 Posted November 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 They're good strong pup's! its good to see proper worker to worker pup's as most litters you see advertised have solely rabbitin parents living off a "yeah the grand sire was a hard earth dog but the dam and sire have only seen rabbits and rats" type of attitude that'll eventually water down the proper foxing beddy earth dog blood. I think beddy's should be bred more responsibly like other breed's (fells,patt's etc.) whereby earth dog to earth dog, worker to worker are bred, this in turn should keep the true working beddy blood alive instead of turning it into mix mash hit or miss type dog that seems to be getting more common. sorry about my rant but what are your views?cheers don't be sorry about the rant mate... I totally agree, if it don't work it shouldn't be bred from, get them in the ground and test them... if they're any good and there's a need to breed, do it !!! note to everyone: ask yourself this.. WILL I ADD TO THE GENE POOL OF GOOD WORKING BEDLINGTONS IF I USE MY DOG AS STUD OR BREED BREED MY BITCH, if you are not sure of the answer, you shouldn't be doing it ... JMHO... Quote Link to post
griffo 28 Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 don't get me wrong i think rabbits and but especially rats are the bread and butter for the beddy's but they should do the job they were bred for and thats foxes and other biting vermin. As for putting it upto a fox and see what happens that could be done and said for any terrier, i mean that a russel free to a good home in the adtrader might do a fox but i think we've all heard of exceptions that work but on the whole worker to worker produces a higher success rate in litters, as its a selection of certain desirable traits. As for the rabbiting beddy litters then i've no doubt some will do the job even if they're parents didn't but its pot luck what genes/traits (call it what you will) pass on from they're lines. Purists say that beddy to beddy is the way to breed such as the gutchcommon or KC beddy's, but i believe sometimes when and if needed an injection of fresh blood such as fell, lakey or perhaps glen of imaal is needed to improve coat, jaw, gameness etc would be beneficial but what do people think about outcrossing? cheers Quote Link to post
swanseajack 227 Posted November 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 These have a dash of Lakeland back somewhere in their makeup.. Pics taken today.. Quote Link to post
kvnmcwebn 0 Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 My view is that you should at least get them in front of a fox - the results can be surprising.As for rats and rabbits, it's all good fun, but any dog can do that. would you ever breed spike to another beddy dave? or just for lurchers? Quote Link to post
david2363 42 Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 My view is that you should at least get them in front of a fox - the results can be surprising.As for rats and rabbits, it's all good fun, but any dog can do that. would you ever breed spike to another beddy dave? or just for lurchers? To the right bitch I would Kev, and if the progeny didn't work out , I'd leave it be. To many dog owners get kennel blind, and want to let their (sometimes untried or unsuitable) dogs add to the genepool, this is done sometimes to boost their own ego, but adds little of a positive nature to the true working Bedlington. In answer to your question, I would say my dog had every chance of turning out some handy lurchers. - All I need is someone with a greyhound. Quote Link to post
twotone 6 Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Pups comming on SJ Quote Link to post
swanseajack 227 Posted November 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 If anyone's interested in a dog pup, PM me.. Quote Link to post
lawrence 657 Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 they're looking great sj. Quote Link to post
swanseajack 227 Posted November 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 they're looking great sj. Got them on raw chicken as of yesterday,,, should see some growth and improvement.. Quote Link to post
byron 1,169 Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 they're looking great sj. Got them on raw chicken as of yesterday,,, should see some growth and improvement.. absoloute belters them sj. credit to you.. Quote Link to post
jamestwo 0 Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 they are bautiful looking pups all the best with them Quote Link to post
Daveo 61 Posted November 16, 2008 Report Share Posted November 16, 2008 Bit off topic this but does anyone know of a line of bedlingtons from the st helens area? Supposed to be decent workers and quite well known? Cheers Dave Quote Link to post
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