Working Bedlingtons 2005

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[coco 261]

 

 

We'll sounds like we're on the same wave length Morton i am very thick skinned a will definitely not give up I've only recently seen the parents to mine work and they are worked hard and was impressed . You are right a lot of boys have them to breed and make there dollar . But I will be workin and eventually breed from my tested working beddies to keep a couple back and would gift pups to fellow terrier man . I only have working in mind for my beddies and by the sounds of it it will be a challenge but look forward to it . Good luck to you and your terriers hope you do we'll and achieve what Eva your aim is with yours . Atb

 

if there from a good line of earth working terriers mate you won't have to worry about size that would have been sorted years ago from my experience it's the blokes who just breed any worker to worker without looking from generations back good luck with your bedlington mate

Or the people hybridizing them whilst kidding themselves they still have Bedlingtons

I agree mate I work 3/4 bedlington 1/4 fell I don't try to bullshit anyone what I've got but as I've said before how many lads put pedigree terriers down holes worth hundreds of pounds me for one cannot afford to do that so I stick to my hybrids atb

[Coursing mad 24 874]

I think hybrid ing the right way to improve the working bedlington can't do any harm . I have seen a 3/4 beddy Leakey that to me looked more like the true beddy from years ago than most of the weak leggy things of today . I personally think a small percentage of Lakeland put into your working beddy line would hope fully add a bit of power to there heads and attitude as well as bringing the size down slightly with out making them to small and weak . I saw one on here a few weeks ago that's looked a nice thing . Atb also all terriers years ago was created buy crossing one terrier strain to another .

[Coursing mad 24 874]

wasn't really looking for another beddy type but fate had other ideas, picked this wee bitch up last week,

 

 

I think if you crossed this back to a pure working beddy you get something resembling true to original beddy type from years ago . Just my opinion Atb

[Blackdog92 2,047]

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[northern lad 2,292]

 

 

 

We'll sounds like we're on the same wave length Morton i am very thick skinned a will definitely not give up I've only recently seen the parents to mine work and they are worked hard and was impressed . You are right a lot of boys have them to breed and make there dollar . But I will be workin and eventually breed from my tested working beddies to keep a couple back and would gift pups to fellow terrier man . I only have working in mind for my beddies and by the sounds of it it will be a challenge but look forward to it . Good luck to you and your terriers hope you do we'll and achieve what Eva your aim is with yours . Atb

if there from a good line of earth working terriers mate you won't have to worry about size that would have been sorted years ago from my experience it's the blokes who just breed any worker to worker without looking from generations back good luck with your bedlington mate

 

Or the people hybridizing them whilst kidding themselves they still have Bedlingtons

 

Hybrid Bedlingtons are a truer reflection of the original,in type and work ethic,than what some perceive as the Bedlington now,well the KC Bedlington,which is far removed from its working origin,yes the hybrid is a true type of terrier that was once recognised as a WORKING Bedlington,if it fits the type and character of the original,before the ego,s and peddlars bastersised it for money and rosettes,is it then a truer Bedlington?,YES if there is any honesty left in the breed.

 

I agree with most of what you say Morton.....what I don't understand is ,when does a bedlington stop becoming a bedlington? Also its fine if you know whats in your dogs,lets say for example someone has a pup off you,and down the line passes it on ,the new owner knowing nothing of the outcross,and then putting a full bedlington over it,passing pups on as full beddies,which will be carrying genes from whatever outcross ,and now entering the Bedlington gene pool.. Scottish Wilcats are I believe in dire straights due to so many of them carrying domestic cat genes,the only way they can tell now is through DNA testing,and a breeding programme set up for the pure wildcats,I would hate the Bedlington to fall to a similar fate

[coco 261]

 

 

 

 

We'll sounds like we're on the same wave length Morton i am very thick skinned a will definitely not give up I've only recently seen the parents to mine work and they are worked hard and was impressed . You are right a lot of boys have them to breed and make there dollar . But I will be workin and eventually breed from my tested working beddies to keep a couple back and would gift pups to fellow terrier man . I only have working in mind for my beddies and by the sounds of it it will be a challenge but look forward to it . Good luck to you and your terriers hope you do we'll and achieve what Eva your aim is with yo

 

if there from a good line of earth working terriers mate you won't have to worry about size that would have been sorted years ago from my experience it's the blokes who just breed any worker to worker without looking from generations back good luck with your bedlington mate

Or the people hybridizing them whilst kidding themselves they still have Bedlingtons

Hybrid Bedlingtons are a truer reflection of the original,in type and work ethic,than what some perceive as the Bedlington now,well the KC Bedlington,which is far removed from its working origin,yes the hybrid is a true type of terrier that was once recognised as a WORKING Bedlington,if it fits the type and character of the original,before the ego,s and peddlars bastersised it for money and rosettes,is it then a truer Bedlington?,YES if there is any honesty left in the breed.

I agree with most of what you say Morton.....what I don't understand is ,when does a bedlington stop becoming a bedlington? Also its fine if you know whats in your dogs,lets say for example someone has a pup off you,and down the line passes it on ,the new owner knowing nothing of the outcross,and then putting a full bedlington over it,passing pups on as full beddies,which will be carrying genes from whatever outcross ,and now entering the Bedlington gene pool.. Scottish Wilcats are I believe in dire straights due to so many of them carrying domestic cat genes,the only way they can tell now is through DNA testing,and a breeding programme set up for the pure wildcats,I would hate the Bedlington to fall to a similar fate

 

 

 

 

We'll sounds like we're on the same wave length Morton i am very thick skinned a will definitely not give up I've only recently seen the parents to mine work and they are worked hard and was impressed . You are right a lot of boys have them to breed and make there dollar . But I will be workin and eventually breed from my tested working beddies to keep a couple back and would gift pups to fellow terrier man . I only have working in mind for my beddies and by the sounds of it it will be a challenge but look forward to it . Good luck to you and your terriers hope you do we'll and achieve what Eva your aim is with yours . Atb

 

if there from a good line of earth working terriers mate you won't have to worry about size that would have been sorted years ago from my experience it's the blokes who just breed any worker to worker without looking from generations back good luck with your bedlington mate

Or the people hybridizing them whilst kidding themselves they still have Bedlingtons

Hybrid Bedlingtons are a truer reflection of the original,in type and work ethic,than what some perceive as the Bedlington now,well the KC Bedlington,which is far removed from its working origin,yes the hybrid is a true type of terrier that was once recognised as a WORKING Bedlington,if it fits the type and character of the original,before the ego,s and peddlars bastersised it for money and rosettes,is it then a truer Bedlington?,YES if there is any honesty left in the breed.

I agree with most of what you say Morton.....what I don't understand is ,when does a bedlington stop becoming a bedlington? Also its fine if you know whats in your dogs,lets say for example someone has a pup off you,and down the line passes it on ,the new owner knowing nothing of the outcross,and then putting a full bedlington over it,passing pups on as full beddies,which will be carrying genes from whatever outcross ,and now entering the Bedlington gene pool.. Scottish Wilcats are I believe in dire straights due to so many of them carrying domestic cat genes,the only way they can tell now is through DNA testing,and a breeding programme set up for the pure wildcats,I would hate the Bedlington to fall to a similar fate

check out where your getting your pup from first see how long he's had the line in his kennels ,,,,,,, and if your still not happy with the pedigree he's given you try your luck with a kc mutt atb

[mud 2,044]

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Edited January 4, 2015 by mud

[Coursing mad 24 874]

I think it was a good offer . If one of my beddy pups was working well in a years time if the offer was still ther I would jump at the chance . An offer of work for your dog is a good one . Hard enough to get permission as it is Atb

[Rory4 267]

Good offer if genuine, where abouts are you?

[coco 261]

I think it was a good offer . If one of my beddy pups was working well in a years time if the offer was still ther I would jump at the chance . An offer of work for your dog is a good one . Hard enough to get permission as it is Atb

well I'm from South Wales if there's anyone near I'm sure I could meet up for a days hunting

[morton 5,368]

 

 

Would like to see a proper working bedlington with a few seasons under its belt go.plenty of permission here what will suit the work.so there's a day out if anyone has a (handy beddy) pm .atb mud

You may have a long wait,firstly grafting Bedlingtons are thin on the ground and a chance to show your working Beddy working will have the majority of owners sheltering in the shadows,the lads who actually own grafters dont have the need to prove their charges.

 

your right,no ones got to prove anything mate.just haven't seen a beddy work,I know what your saying,I just offered someone a good day out with a beddy thats all.theres plenty grafters that's out with me regular but would of liked someone with a beddy too jump in with us an have a good day on some good land.atb mud

 

The Bedlington as a worker as been hijacked by ego,s and chancers,the colour of money and ribbons is their main reason for ownership,if the mutt chases a few rodents about then its a worker that befits the name and the resultant progeny will be advertised as "from working stock",which they certainly are not.A few genuine sorts are taking the breed more seriously and breed and work their Beddys accordingly,well done chaps,the rest ive little time or patience for.Its heartening to see somebody interested in seeing a proper Bedddy doing what the breed was bred for,the Bedlington is the most versatile of terrier and to graft it from a lead is sacriledge,they will bush and ratch about,turn their versatility to a multitude of working tasks,but unless they enter and graft below they are not workers.There are plenty of lads in the valleys with Bedlingtons,some of them workers,good luck.

[morton 5,368]

 

 

We'll sounds like we're on the same wave length Morton i am very thick skinned a will definitely not give up I've only recently seen the parents to mine work and they are worked hard and was impressed . You are right a lot of boys have them to breed and make there dollar . But I will be workin and eventually breed from my tested working beddies to keep a couple back and would gift pups to fellow terrier man . I only have working in mind for my beddies and by the sounds of it it will be a challenge but look forward to it . Good luck to you and your terriers hope you do we'll and achieve what Eva your aim is with yours . Atb

if there from a good line of earth working terriers mate you won't have to worry about size that would have been sorted years ago from my experience it's the blokes who just breed any worker to worker without looking from generations back good luck with your bedlington mate

 

Or the people hybridizing them whilst kidding themselves they still have Bedlingtons

 

The majority of KC bedlingtons look the way they do because of the outcrosses added to the breeding,much of this outcross breeding will never be entered on the pedigree,so what is a Bedlington?,an hybrid that looks and grafts like the original or a pseudo fluffy with a doctored pedigree?,honesty and integrity is the foundation of any working terrier.

[mud 2,044]

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Edited January 4, 2015 by mud

[morton 5,368]

Cheers lads.for those who pm'd me send me your numbers and I'll give use a ring over christmas and arrange a date.atb mud

Well done to them lads,the lot of the Bedlington is better for it.