Rake aboot 4,935 Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 Heritage, tbh it`s none of your business if he culls non working ferrets, ther are plenty already in rescues, so if being responsible upsets you, you should maybe join an Arsespca forum bud. ABout the coats,, I know they should be thick and healthy, but my question was,, are they ? are they loosing coat !? Quote Link to post
patterdalejoel 669 Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 Not everyone out there wants workers..., some people simply want pets & some ferreters may want a non -working hob to have vasectomised...when you have a problem with an animal you should try and resolve it ......you just chose the easy option & killed perfectly healthy animals....how much time or effort would it have been to hand them in to a welfare or feed them separately......with any animal comes a duty of care & I can only hope you don't experience other problems with your remaining ferrets..... no amount of care or handling is going to make them work better, you cant "resolve" a ferret not willing to work..... in my opinion my duty of care was reached as i didnt pass the problem on 1 Quote Link to post
heritage 202 Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 You are right when you say it's non of my buisness but when you put posts up on an open forum you should expect to hear other peoples opinions.....,my opinion is there's no need to kill healthy animals when there are other soloutions available..... Quote Link to post
joe14 98 Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 They will eat more in winter, give them chicken wings, cheap fatty mince. Dont be skinny with the food either as they do tend to eat much more. You can also give them mill (whole lactofree milk) which is good for putting abit of weight on them. Quote Link to post
patterdalejoel 669 Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 You are right when you say it's non of my buisness but when you put posts up on an open forum you should expect to hear other peoples opinions.....,my opinion is there's no need to kill healthy animals when there are other soloutions available..... ANTI Quote Link to post
heritage 202 Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 What a pathetic reply.......when you go on an internet forum you will naturally find people who's opinions differ from you own, instead of taking what you read with a pinch of salt or discussing the matter like an adult you resort to petit, childish name calling .......this speaks volumes about both your personality & character.....so if you wish we can continue to discuss anything relevant to owning or working ferrets or you can continue with these foolish, slanderous outbursts and I can continue laughing at your expense....... Quote Link to post
ferretsuk 5 Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 not everyone get their animals to end up with some one else who could do anything and put them in pain Quote Link to post
patterdalejoel 669 Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 What a pathetic reply.......when you go on an internet forum you will naturally find people who's opinions differ from you own, instead of taking what you read with a pinch of salt or discussing the matter like an adult you resort to petit, childish name calling .......this speaks volumes about both your personality & character.....so if you wish we can continue to discuss anything relevant to owning or working ferrets or you can continue with these foolish, slanderous outbursts and I can continue laughing at your expense....... the statement still stands, and the majority of hunting is killing healthy animals. rabbits are rarely a pest recently as they are not really found in large enough numbers to be, so i guess you disagree with ferreting as a whole? Quote Link to post
heritage 202 Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 So you publicly brand me an anti for having an opinion different to your own and now your wrongly assuming I'm against ferreting as a whole.... I can only think that this is an attempt to hide your inexperience and distract the people reading this post from my initial question....so, after making assumptions about someone you've never met you then continue your reply by trying to educate me on the control of rabbits...,firstly rabbits are always a pest & as such they feature on the pest species list ,this is the reason you can control them all year round using all legal methods....so lets not not go off on a tangent., the initial question that I raised & the one that you reacted so badly to was in connection to you trying to help a ailing Jill by killing two perfectly healthy hobs......this is what I couldn't understand and it's why I suggested several possible alternatives......like I said with any animal comes a duty of care... Quote Link to post
patterdalejoel 669 Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 So you publicly brand me an anti for having an opinion different to your own and now your wrongly assuming I'm against ferreting as a whole.... I can only think that this is an attempt to hide your inexperience and distract the people reading this post from my initial question....so, after making assumptions about someone you've never met you then continue your reply by trying to educate me on the control of rabbits...,firstly rabbits are always a pest & as such they feature on the pest species list ,this is the reason you can control them all year round using all legal methods....so lets not not go off on a tangent., the initial question that I raised & the one that you reacted so badly to was in connection to you trying to help a ailing Jill by killing two perfectly healthy hobs......this is what I couldn't understand and it's why I suggested several possible alternatives......like I said with any animal comes a duty of care... they were 2 fat useless jills. they were bullying and starving the working jills. the 2 animals with a job are the most important. its what happens in the working animal world, on farms etc, cows that dont give milk go into kebabs, no which way about it. what do you want me to do? give them to a rescue centre or sell them to some p***y who will f**k around with them? nah thanks i bred them i owe them more than that. they died painlessly. fuk off with your duty of care, my animals my responsibility, which doesnt involve passing them around like a parcel. i dont keep passengers. nowadays rabbits are rarely a proper pest, with many people having to actively seek them out long and hard to catch them, so not a true pest in many cases, and we all do it for the enjoyment and sport, not because we have to. so we are doing it for our enjoyment when we dont have to. Quote Link to post
heritage 202 Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 This is getting real tiresome now and I think we're going to have to agree to disagree....., you can make as many irrelevant comparisons as you like in an attempt to justify your actions but the simple facts are that through your lack of understanding and your unwillingness to make any real effort 2 perfectly healthy ferrets paid the ultimate price......they were your ferrets and it was your decision to kill them,on this I fully agree but me, well I chose to look after the animals I have and make as much effort as is required...so if you wish to brand me an anti, assume I'm against ferreting or swear in your next reply then feel free to do so but bear this post in mind before offering advice to others on the subject of ferret welfare as to be honest, you have shown everyone how you little you really know on the subject......., Quote Link to post
Malt 379 Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 You are right when you say it's non of my buisness but when you put posts up on an open forum you should expect to hear other peoples opinions.....,my opinion is there's no need to kill healthy animals when there are other soloutions available..... ANTI no need for that, the man's entitled to his opinion and it doesn't make him and anti.. Next time I notice you pop up with a remark like that you're going to get warning points... Quote Link to post
patterdalejoel 669 Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 This is getting real tiresome now and I think we're going to have to agree to disagree....., you can make as many irrelevant comparisons as you like in an attempt to justify your actions but the simple facts are that through your lack of understanding and your unwillingness to make any real effort 2 perfectly healthy ferrets paid the ultimate price......they were your ferrets and it was your decision to kill them,on this I fully agree but me, well I chose to look after the animals I have and make as much effort as is required...so if you wish to brand me an anti, assume I'm against ferreting or swear in your next reply then feel free to do so but bear this post in mind before offering advice to others on the subject of ferret welfare as to be honest, you have shown everyone how you little you really know on the subject......., i think you are thinking that i dont look after these ferrets properly.... i didnt look after these ferrets to any lower standard than the workers.... my ferrets are in the best of health, have a completely fresh natural diet with stimulation and clean bedding..... its not about me not caring about my ferrets, its simply the fact that where working animals are concerned there are always going to be culls, and anyone with any knowledge of the countryside and what it involves would understand that. in my opinion i did the right thing by culling the animals rather than passing them on, where they will be peddled, bred off, and not cared for properly. Quote Link to post
Brimmer 220 Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 PJ what you have done has and will be done for years to come. Although not PC in todays society, you may have prevented hundreds of animals having a troubled life in the future. Just dont think anybody but yourself needs to know about it thats all bud. 2 Quote Link to post
patterdalejoel 669 Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 PJ what you have done has and will be done for years to come. Although not PC in todays society, you may have prevented hundreds of animals having a troubled life in the future. Just dont think anybody but yourself needs to know about it thats all bud. i knew that, didnt want to publicise it, but he got me riled and i had to finish. lol Quote Link to post
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