Personal protection Lurchers?

[Chid 6,540]

I've got a Bull x bitch that will bite but only through play. She doesn't have much in the way of natural guarding instinct and barks very little.

I've seen a lot of Bull terriers that are protection trained and known of a fair few Collies that were complete b+sterds for biting and I wondered if these traits would or have carried over to a Lurcher.

I can remember a Collie x that was a nightmare for biting and I'm sure in this day and age it would of been PTS.

you've seen collies trained as protection dogs?

yep they do train collies as pp dogs ask someone in the know ... the only reason i know is a member on this site told me

[j1985 1,984]

You can train any dog but like said its wether they actually have the minerals to not flap it and run when the going gets tough!

[Matt3699 142]

Iv seen some vicious collies kept by farmers. Be a brave man to approach one of them.

I've got a Bull x bitch that will bite but only through play. She doesn't have much in the way of natural guarding instinct and barks very little.

I've seen a lot of Bull terriers that are protection trained and known of a fair few Collies that were complete b+sterds for biting and I wondered if these traits would or have carried over to a Lurcher.

I can remember a Collie x that was a nightmare for biting and I'm sure in this day and age it would of been PTS.

you've seen collies trained as protection dogs?

yep they do train collies as pp dogs ask someone in the know ... the only reason i know is a member on this site told me

 

Yep. I have seen some vicious collies kept on farmland. You would be a brave man to confront one.

[leegreen 2,173]

I've got a Bull x bitch that will bite but only through play. She doesn't have much in the way of natural guarding instinct and barks very little.

I've seen a lot of Bull terriers that are protection trained and known of a fair few Collies that were complete b+sterds for biting and I wondered if these traits would or have carried over to a Lurcher.

I can remember a Collie x that was a nightmare for biting and I'm sure in this day and age it would of been PTS.

you've seen collies trained as protection dogs? or just the nervy, nasty, snappy types? I wouldn't want that trait in any dog, not a chance!! some of the collies I've seen are proper unpredictable, they're sort of half cowering and you never know when the fookin things are going to snap.

 

No, not seen Collies trained a PPD, just one's that were not afraid to bite.

If you look on Youtube there are Boxers, Labs and all sorts of trained biters.

There is a fellow that I've used for training bite work, that has Springer trained to the sleeve and it's a proper maniac.

[rob190364 2,594]

Iv seen some vicious collies kept by farmers. Be a brave man to approach one of them.

I've got a Bull x bitch that will bite but only through play. She doesn't have much in the way of natural guarding instinct and barks very little.

I've seen a lot of Bull terriers that are protection trained and known of a fair few Collies that were complete b+sterds for biting and I wondered if these traits would or have carried over to a Lurcher.

I can remember a Collie x that was a nightmare for biting and I'm sure in this day and age it would of been PTS.

you've seen collies trained as protection dogs?

yep they do train collies as pp dogs ask someone in the know ... the only reason i know is a member on this site told me

 

Yep. I have seen some vicious collies kept on farmland. You would be a brave man to confront one.

would the average border collie stand up to an 18 stone man booting it though? fair enough it'd give you a nasty bite but I wouldn't have thought they were big enough to be a proper protection dog?

[scothunter 12,609]

biting on command funnily enough isnt a trait i look for in a lurcher.my last one would have bit you just for the sheer hell of it lol

[j1985 1,984]

Sleeve work is just part of training, get that springer in a real life scenario and it will turn an run when pressured! Unless its a bad ass springer with nerves of steel lol

[Matt3699 142]

Iv seen some vicious collies kept by farmers. Be a brave man to approach one of them.

I've got a Bull x bitch that will bite but only through play. She doesn't have much in the way of natural guarding instinct and barks very little.

I've seen a lot of Bull terriers that are protection trained and known of a fair few Collies that were complete b+sterds for biting and I wondered if these traits would or have carried over to a Lurcher.

I can remember a Collie x that was a nightmare for biting and I'm sure in this day and age it would of been PTS.

you've seen collies trained as protection dogs?

yep they do train collies as pp dogs ask someone in the know ... the only reason i know is a member on this site told me

 

Yep. I have seen some vicious collies kept on farmland. You would be a brave man to confront one.

would the average border collie stand up to an 18 stone man booting it though? fair enough it'd give you a nasty bite but I wouldn't have thought they were big enough to be a proper protection dog?

 

 

 

Maybe so. The farm I saw them on would keep about 5 of them though. They wouldn't be my first choice, but when a dog is showing teeth and trying to break the chain it's on it's enough of a deterrent for me anyway.

Edited November 28, 2012 by Matt3699

[chris87 297]

ive got a bitch here that bites on command ive been married to her for 26 years

:laugh: :laugh:

[danw 1,748]

I've got a Bull x bitch that will bite but only through play. She doesn't have much in the way of natural guarding instinct and barks very little.

I've seen a lot of Bull terriers that are protection trained and known of a fair few Collies that were complete b+sterds for biting and I wondered if these traits would or have carried over to a Lurcher.

I can remember a Collie x that was a nightmare for biting and I'm sure in this day and age it would of been PTS.

you've seen collies trained as protection dogs? or just the nervy, nasty, snappy types? I wouldn't want that trait in any dog, not a chance!! some of the collies I've seen are proper unpredictable, they're sort of half cowering and you never know when the fookin things are going to snap.

 

No, not seen Collies trained a PPD, just one's that were not afraid to bite.

If you look on Youtube there are Boxers, Labs and all sorts of trained biters.

There is a fellow that I've used for training bite work, that has Springer trained to the sleeve and it's a proper maniac.

 

half of being a ppd is the deterent a bite should be the last option and with the best will in the world I arent going to run away from a lab or springer barking at me

[leegreen 2,173]

You can train any dog but like said its wether they actually have the minerals to not flap it and run when the going gets tough!

We're not talking heavy pressure work, we're talking Lurchers. Saying that I know of a man that has a 90lb 1/2 x Bull/Greyhound and that likes the sleeve and I'm sure that would take some stopping

[chris87 297]

tr@ined security gu@rd dog i presumed he ment

 

You do realise the the A key is on the other end of the keyboard no ?

of course lol its broke @long with "w" fooked @sell f@ir @nnoying

[scothunter 12,609]

tr@ined security gu@rd dog i presumed he ment

 

You do realise the the A key is on the other end of the keyboard no ?

of course lol its broke @long with "w" fooked @sell f@ir @nnoying

 

lol ive got a missing a key,but it still works if you press hard enough

[forest of dean redneck 11,609]

ive got a bitch here that bites on command ive been married to her for 26 years

Pmsl sometimes they bite without a command given.

[rob190364 2,594]

tr@ined security gu@rd dog i presumed he ment

 

You do realise the the A key is on the other end of the keyboard no ?

of course lol its broke @long with "w" fooked @sell f@ir @nnoying

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