rough dog 333 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 yapping is something that is not needed or wanted in a working Lurcher whatever the cause it`s a fault ...simple as ! Quote Link to post
toby63 1,236 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 most dogs arnt mentally and phisically developed till at least 12 month so why ruin a dog by doing so. Quote Link to post
tote 854 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 dogs will yap for all sorts of reasons if you understand the reasons then theres a good chance it wont yap. however some just yap and theres nothing you can do to change it, how a pup is brought on will make or brake it, wether its a yapper or not. That's not always the case, had a pup a good few years back that was brought on the right way. He was turning into a decent animal, ferreting, mooching and lamping. He'd caught a fair number of rabbits but out of the blue he started yapping behind a rabbit one day and that was him from that day on. Run it through my head time and time again trying to work out what I did wrong. The answer was nothing, he'd never been asked too much, only ever ran on rabbits and had caught plenty, the simple fact was he was a yapper and it was only a matter of time before it surfaced. Quote Link to post
FUJI 17,327 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 yapping is something that is not needed or wanted in a working Lurcher whatever the cause it`s a fault ...simple as ! Agreed ..and so is jibbing/jacking,non retrieving,hunting up on the lamp,pulling up at fences for a coursing dog,not following into cover,not jumping,pulling on a slip,not taking ALL quarry,being a bad traveller,bad kenneler,a fighter and plenty more and unfortunately finding a dog that doesn't have atleast one of these faults is about as common as hens teeth 5 Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 dogs will yap for all sorts of reasons if you understand the reasons then theres a good chance it wont yap. however some just yap and theres nothing you can do to change it, how a pup is brought on will make or brake it, wether its a yapper or not. That's not always the case, had a pup a good few years back that was brought on the right way. He was turning into a decent animal, ferreting, mooching and lamping. He'd caught a fair number of rabbits but out of the blue he started yapping behind a rabbit one day and that was him from that day on. Run it through my head time and time again trying to work out what I did wrong. The answer was nothing, he'd never been asked too much, only ever ran on rabbits and had caught plenty, the simple fact was he was a yapper and it was only a matter of time before it surfaced. covered that Quote Link to post
weasle 1,119 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 (edited) yapping is something that is not needed or wanted in a working Lurcher whatever the cause it`s a fault ...simple as ! If you have a couple of lurchers working covers for fox opening up is very useful lets you know were they are that there on and lets the other dogs know too. Edited November 24, 2012 by weasle 1 Quote Link to post
tote 854 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 dogs will yap for all sorts of reasons if you understand the reasons then theres a good chance it wont yap. however some just yap and theres nothing you can do to change it, how a pup is brought on will make or brake it, wether its a yapper or not. That's not always the case, had a pup a good few years back that was brought on the right way. He was turning into a decent animal, ferreting, mooching and lamping. He'd caught a fair number of rabbits but out of the blue he started yapping behind a rabbit one day and that was him from that day on. Run it through my head time and time again trying to work out what I did wrong. The answer was nothing, he'd never been asked too much, only ever ran on rabbits and had caught plenty, the simple fact was he was a yapper and it was only a matter of time before it surfaced. covered that You did, but then you added "wether it's a yapper or not" at the end, which kinda contradicts it. Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 dogs will yap for all sorts of reasons if you understand the reasons then theres a good chance it wont yap. however some just yap and theres nothing you can do to change it, how a pup is brought on will make or brake it, wether its a yapper or not. That's not always the case, had a pup a good few years back that was brought on the right way. He was turning into a decent animal, ferreting, mooching and lamping. He'd caught a fair number of rabbits but out of the blue he started yapping behind a rabbit one day and that was him from that day on. Run it through my head time and time again trying to work out what I did wrong. The answer was nothing, he'd never been asked too much, only ever ran on rabbits and had caught plenty, the simple fact was he was a yapper and it was only a matter of time before it surfaced. covered that You did, but then you added "wether it's a yapper or not" at the end, which kinda contradicts it. thats just me Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 Ive got a friend with a beddy/fell x whippet /grey. 18 months and keen as mustard, puts 100 percent in but yaps like feck. Is it worth watching to see how he comes on-is it hereditary-im thinling this because I have a very good bitch I would of put him too if he stayed good for a couple of years, but the yapping worries me to much. He also has a good sibling that doesnt yap but if its hereditary im gonna steer clear of him too. A shame because otherwise hes a nice dog I would,nt even contemplate breeding from a yapper,better options out there,a case of doing the groundwork and sourcing them rather than an easier far less suitable option.Breeding entering and nurture all have their part to play in a dog that opens up. Quote Link to post
stewie 3,387 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 I've had it (the yap) ..not on everything they ran and not on every trip out..in all honesty i didn't give a shite,i'd rather they gave an odd yip and put gear in the bag than a stealth bomber that couldn't catch a cold lol..yes a stealth bomber that can fill the bag would of been better but like i said earlier sometimes you just have to make best of the job with the tools at hand ..we all can't be blessed with owning good dogs thats the thing, he aint on about a slight yip........ a dog that yaps is a liability and a pain in the arse!!! i can remember a guy getting a pup and raising him with a pack of around 13 border terriers that him and his mates have between them..........long story short i was out with him at night, he slipped his lurcher on a big rabbit and for the min or two on it, it yapped all the time and came back all proud of itself, to an owner praising him............ would he of yapped if not raised with a bushing/ratting pack???? who knows but the dog never stopped so they just stuck to the day work and is probably still out yapping with them lads now!!! a dogs bark travels miles and people instinctively associate a bark with something not right..........if mrs ex townie, who has just brought a country pad and enjoys feeding the local rabbits in the field that backs on to her house, is sat at home watching eastenders on a wet and windy night, she might not notice a crafty old shine in that field................slip a yapper and the police are on the way in minutes........................JMO.......... 1 Quote Link to post
lietome 138 Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 Ive got a friend with a beddy/fell x whippet /grey. 18 months and keen as mustard, puts 100 percent in but yaps like feck. Is it worth watching to see how he comes on-is it hereditary-im thinling this because I have a very good bitch I would of put him too if he stayed good for a couple of years, but the yapping worries me to much. He also has a good sibling that doesnt yap but if its hereditary im gonna steer clear of him too. A shame because otherwise hes a nice dog i heard about 3 lurchers yapping at a fox cub when it stopped and faced them up lol Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 I'm in no rush to get a lurcher working as my intention is to run it until it retires. But i get pups out the the fields and woods as soon as they are jabbed up and used to obstacles and the outdoors........ Common sense i'd of thought? There is a serious lack of it on here! Quote Link to post
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