franks barn 10 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 I'm in no rush to get a lurcher working as my intention is to run it until it retires. But i get pups out the the fields and woods as soon as they are jabbed up and used to obstacles and the outdoors........ Common sense i'd of thought? so simoman, if you take your time with your dog and it yaps then what are you goin to do with it ? Quote Link to post
Simoman 110 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 when you say getting him used to dykes, tell me a better way than putting him behind a hare and letting him cross a few. ? walking along a dyke is not getting him used to them Walking, running exercising, do we only get a dog used to fences if he is behind something? imo and all the other lads i know over the years, bar none run dogs young to get them used to the dykes and other obsticles, i`m not saying thrash them. i`m saying give them runs and then hold them back to suit the dogs needs, getting behind something is the best way to do that, and getting back on the subject of yapping, i have never seen a case where running too young makes a dog yap, its in there genes if they are a yapper, some yap and some will never make a murmur no matter how frustrated I have seen dogs that have been overmatched too often, too young and run unfit open up with frustration. I'm in no rush to get a lurcher working as my intention is to run it until it retires. But i get pups out the the fields and woods as soon as they are jabbed up and used to obstacles and the outdoors........ overmatched ,run unfit, does not make a yapper, breeding definatly does make a yapper. certain breeds of dogs are prone to yapping ie collie whippet, i`m talking about coursing dogs not lampers or hedge hoppers Well as i may of mentioned, i disagree, in my opinion being overmatched and run unfit is one way to make a yapper....... Andy, you'd think so Quote Link to post
FUJI 17,293 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 If a dog has caught plenty of game yet on occasions does the dreaded yap perhaps on quarry it would struggle to catch ie a hare or on ground it would struggle to catch on perhaps rocky,heather or woodland for instance and if it isn't classed as frustration then what the hell is it? 1 Quote Link to post
franks barn 10 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 a troll, has to be you were the first on to start the abuse big dog by saying i talk shit, i can assure you i have matched the best and run dogs with the best, not a troll just talking the way i see it ... have you ever seen a top class coursing dog run a hare ? and i don`t mean on dvd Quote Link to post
FUJI 17,293 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 a troll, has to be you were the first on to start the abuse big dog by saying i talk shit, i can assure you i have matched the best and run dogs with the best, not a troll just talking the way i see it ... have you ever seen a top class coursing dog run a hare ? and i don`t mean on dvd Not at 8 month old i aint Quote Link to post
Simoman 110 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 I'm in no rush to get a lurcher working as my intention is to run it until it retires. But i get pups out the the fields and woods as soon as they are jabbed up and used to obstacles and the outdoors........ Common sense i'd of thought? so simoman, if you take your time with your dog and it yaps then what are you goin to do with it ? In all honesty i don't know, so far it hasn't happened...... Quote Link to post
rough dog 333 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 Franks Barn,don't take this the wrong way matey as we all do things different ie: entering dogs to work...why would you feel the need to run a pup of 8 1/2 month on a hare?..the point being exactly what?...how many seasons would you get out of a dog?..Not trying to nit pick fella,just i'm amazed quite frankly with your post?...would you be getting the pup upto a fair stage of fitness to run a hare at that age?..ATB Andy. quite simple answer is, if you don`t get your dog used to dykes and other obsticles when young it will proberbly injure itself badly when older and faster, and be crap at combating the same. have seen many dogs killed and injured on dykes when they come across them at 16 month old and at full speed for the first time, important to get them working around dykes What about just getting a young dog out and getting him used to dykes, fences etc anyway? Does it have to be hunting? Not after an argument, just discussion.......... :thumbs: Quote Link to post
weasle 1,119 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 If a dog has caught plenty of game yet on occasions does the dreaded yap perhaps on quarry it would struggle to catch ie a hare or on ground it would struggle to catch on perhaps rocky,heather or woodland for instance and if it isn't classed as frustration then what the hell is it? Ive also had pups that have had a few rabbits,give a yap always as they strike over keenly for the rabbit to dodge it with a turn,They all stopped though once they relised it didnt mean the rabbit would get away just because it out turned them once.If it was just breeding they would start and never stop. Wouldnt have a fox hound x though... 1 Quote Link to post
franks barn 10 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 Franks Barn,don't take this the wrong way matey as we all do things different ie: entering dogs to work...why would you feel the need to run a pup of 8 1/2 month on a hare?..the point being exactly what?...how many seasons would you get out of a dog?..Not trying to nit pick fella,just i'm amazed quite frankly with your post?...would you be getting the pup upto a fair stage of fitness to run a hare at that age?..ATB Andy. quite simple answer is, if you don`t get your dog used to dykes and other obsticles when young it will proberbly injure itself badly when older and faster, and be crap at combating the same. have seen many dogs killed and injured on dykes when they come across them at 16 month old and at full speed for the first time, important to get them working around dykes What about just getting a young dog out and getting him used to dykes, fences etc anyway? Does it have to be hunting? Not after an argument, just discussion.......... :thumbs: don`t take this the wrong way lads, but you sound like a load of hedge hoppers to me, with no serious coursing experience between you, i`m off now been talking to you for too long Quote Link to post
FUJI 17,293 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 I've had it (the yap) ..not on everything they ran and not on every trip out..in all honesty i didn't give a shite,i'd rather they gave an odd yip and put gear in the bag than a stealth bomber that couldn't catch a cold lol..yes a stealth bomber that can fill the bag would of been better but like i said earlier sometimes you just have to make best of the job with the tools at hand ..we all can't be blessed with owning good dogs Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 thread locked :laugh: :laugh: Quote Link to post
Simoman 110 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 So you can't change our opinion, so decide on insults. Is the coursing man superior in lurcherwork in your eyes then................. Quote Link to post
FUJI 17,293 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 Is the coursing man supirior in lurcherwork in your eyes then................. YES because i have two now :laugh: 2 Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 dogs will yap for all sorts of reasons if you understand the reasons then theres a good chance it wont yap. however some just yap and theres nothing you can do to change it, how a pup is brought on will make or brake it, wether its a yapper or not. Quote Link to post
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