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If it puts gear in the bag does it really matter if it yaps? No it isn't really what you want but then again a dog that can't jump or retrieve or kill 50 rabbits or 5/5 hares or pull a Fallow buck sin

Agreed ..and so is jibbing/jacking,non retrieving,hunting up on the lamp,pulling up at fences for a coursing dog,not following into cover,not jumping,pulling on a slip,not taking ALL quarry,being a b

Very good idea. It gets used to them quickly or it breaks its neck. Genius!

Franks Barn,don't take this the wrong way matey as we all do things different ie: entering dogs to work...why would you feel the need to run a pup of 8 1/2 month on a hare?..the point being exactly what?...how many seasons would you get out of a dog?..Not trying to nit pick fella,just i'm amazed quite frankly with your post?...would you be getting the pup upto a fair stage of fitness to run a hare at that age?..ATB Andy. :thumbs:

 

quite simple answer is, if you don`t get your dog used to dykes and other obsticles when young it will proberbly injure itself badly when older and faster, and be crap at combating the same.

have seen many dogs killed and injured on dykes when they come across them at 16 month old and at full speed for the first time, important to get them working around dykes

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Franks Barn,don't take this the wrong way matey as we all do things different ie: entering dogs to work...why would you feel the need to run a pup of 8 1/2 month on a hare?..the point being exactly what?...how many seasons would you get out of a dog?..Not trying to nit pick fella,just i'm amazed quite frankly with your post?...would you be getting the pup upto a fair stage of fitness to run a hare at that age?..ATB Andy. :thumbs:

 

quite simple answer is, if you don`t get your dog used to dykes and other obsticles when young it will proberbly injure itself badly when older and faster, and be crap at combating the same.

have seen many dogs killed and injured on dykes when they come across them at 16 month old and at full speed for the first time, important to get them working around dykes

 

What about just getting a young dog out and getting him used to dykes, fences etc anyway? Does it have to be hunting? Not after an argument, just discussion..........

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when you say getting him used to dykes, tell me a better way than putting him behind a hare and letting him cross a few. ? walking along a dyke is not getting him used to them

 

Walking, running exercising, do we only get a dog used to fences if he is behind something?

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when you say getting him used to dykes, tell me a better way than putting him behind a hare and letting him cross a few. ? walking along a dyke is not getting him used to them

 

There's a phrase you may or may not of heard of before it's "learn to walk before you can run"..not the other way round lol..but if it works for you fella then all well and good :thumbs:

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when you say getting him used to dykes, tell me a better way than putting him behind a hare and letting him cross a few. ? walking along a dyke is not getting him used to them

 

Very good idea.

It gets used to them quickly or it breaks its neck.

Genius!

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when you say getting him used to dykes, tell me a better way than putting him behind a hare and letting him cross a few. ? walking along a dyke is not getting him used to them

 

Walking, running exercising, do we only get a dog used to fences if he is behind something?

 

imo and all the other lads i know over the years, bar none run dogs young to get them used to the dykes and other obsticles, i`m not saying thrash them. i`m saying give them runs and then hold them back to suit the dogs needs, getting behind something is the best way to do that, and getting back on the subject of yapping, i have never seen a case where running too young makes a dog yap, its in there genes if they are a yapper, some yap and some will never make a murmur no matter how frustrated

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when you say getting him used to dykes, tell me a better way than putting him behind a hare and letting him cross a few. ? walking along a dyke is not getting him used to them

 

Very good idea.

It gets used to them quickly or it breaks its neck.

Genius!

 

you pal talk shit

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when you say getting him used to dykes, tell me a better way than putting him behind a hare and letting him cross a few. ? walking along a dyke is not getting him used to them

 

Walking, running exercising, do we only get a dog used to fences if he is behind something?

 

imo and all the other lads i know over the years, bar none run dogs young to get them used to the dykes and other obsticles, i`m not saying thrash them. i`m saying give them runs and then hold them back to suit the dogs needs, getting behind something is the best way to do that, and getting back on the subject of yapping, i have never seen a case where running too young makes a dog yap, its in there genes if they are a yapper, some yap and some will never make a murmur no matter how frustrated

 

I have seen dogs that have been overmatched too often, too young and run unfit open up with frustration. I'm in no rush to get a lurcher working as my intention is to run it until it retires. But i get pups out the the fields and woods as soon as they are jabbed up and used to obstacles and the outdoors........

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when you say getting him used to dykes, tell me a better way than putting him behind a hare and letting him cross a few. ? walking along a dyke is not getting him used to them

 

Very good idea.

It gets used to them quickly or it breaks its neck.

Genius!

 

you pal talk shit

I know mate, thats why I was agreeing with you!

Your approach is similar to my way of getting them used to being around traffic.

I just lob them out the car in the middle of the M6 and they learn pretty quick

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when you say getting him used to dykes, tell me a better way than putting him behind a hare and letting him cross a few. ? walking along a dyke is not getting him used to them

 

Walking, running exercising, do we only get a dog used to fences if he is behind something?

 

imo and all the other lads i know over the years, bar none run dogs young to get them used to the dykes and other obsticles, i`m not saying thrash them. i`m saying give them runs and then hold them back to suit the dogs needs, getting behind something is the best way to do that, and getting back on the subject of yapping, i have never seen a case where running too young makes a dog yap, its in there genes if they are a yapper, some yap and some will never make a murmur no matter how frustrated

 

I have seen dogs that have been overmatched too often, too young and run unfit open up with frustration. I'm in no rush to get a lurcher working as my intention is to run it until it retires. But i get pups out the the fields and woods as soon as they are jabbed up and used to obstacles and the outdoors........

 

overmatched ,run unfit, does not make a yapper, breeding definatly does make a yapper. certain breeds of dogs are prone to yapping ie collie whippet, i`m talking about coursing dogs not lampers or hedge hoppers

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I'm in no rush to get a lurcher working as my intention is to run it until it retires. But i get pups out the the fields and woods as soon as they are jabbed up and used to obstacles and the outdoors........

 

Common sense i'd of thought? ;)

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