nothernlite 18,080 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 i hate beddy crosses i got rid of mine cause of this now another mates 1 is doing it and its only starting and he is 16 months there mutts wouldnt have 1 near me thats just my opinon had a few beddy xs and none yapped Quote Link to post
franks barn 10 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 Franks Barn,don't take this the wrong way matey as we all do things different ie: entering dogs to work...why would you feel the need to run a pup of 8 1/2 month on a hare?..the point being exactly what?...how many seasons would you get out of a dog?..Not trying to nit pick fella,just i'm amazed quite frankly with your post?...would you be getting the pup upto a fair stage of fitness to run a hare at that age?..ATB Andy. quite simple answer is, if you don`t get your dog used to dykes and other obsticles when young it will proberbly injure itself badly when older and faster, and be crap at combating the same. have seen many dogs killed and injured on dykes when they come across them at 16 month old and at full speed for the first time, important to get them working around dykes Quote Link to post
weasle 1,119 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 Can be down to breeding or frustration,and probally other things as well. Ive had one that would do it and its a hard fault to live with All you can do is tip the balance for a young dog and keep it winning and hope for the best. Quote Link to post
Simoman 110 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 Franks Barn,don't take this the wrong way matey as we all do things different ie: entering dogs to work...why would you feel the need to run a pup of 8 1/2 month on a hare?..the point being exactly what?...how many seasons would you get out of a dog?..Not trying to nit pick fella,just i'm amazed quite frankly with your post?...would you be getting the pup upto a fair stage of fitness to run a hare at that age?..ATB Andy. quite simple answer is, if you don`t get your dog used to dykes and other obsticles when young it will proberbly injure itself badly when older and faster, and be crap at combating the same. have seen many dogs killed and injured on dykes when they come across them at 16 month old and at full speed for the first time, important to get them working around dykes What about just getting a young dog out and getting him used to dykes, fences etc anyway? Does it have to be hunting? Not after an argument, just discussion.......... Quote Link to post
franks barn 10 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 when you say getting him used to dykes, tell me a better way than putting him behind a hare and letting him cross a few. ? walking along a dyke is not getting him used to them Quote Link to post
Simoman 110 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 when you say getting him used to dykes, tell me a better way than putting him behind a hare and letting him cross a few. ? walking along a dyke is not getting him used to them Walking, running exercising, do we only get a dog used to fences if he is behind something? Quote Link to post
FUJI 17,288 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 when you say getting him used to dykes, tell me a better way than putting him behind a hare and letting him cross a few. ? walking along a dyke is not getting him used to them There's a phrase you may or may not of heard of before it's "learn to walk before you can run"..not the other way round lol..but if it works for you fella then all well and good 1 Quote Link to post
lapin2008 1,587 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 when you say getting him used to dykes, tell me a better way than putting him behind a hare and letting him cross a few. ? walking along a dyke is not getting him used to them Very good idea. It gets used to them quickly or it breaks its neck. Genius! 2 Quote Link to post
franks barn 10 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 when you say getting him used to dykes, tell me a better way than putting him behind a hare and letting him cross a few. ? walking along a dyke is not getting him used to them Walking, running exercising, do we only get a dog used to fences if he is behind something? imo and all the other lads i know over the years, bar none run dogs young to get them used to the dykes and other obsticles, i`m not saying thrash them. i`m saying give them runs and then hold them back to suit the dogs needs, getting behind something is the best way to do that, and getting back on the subject of yapping, i have never seen a case where running too young makes a dog yap, its in there genes if they are a yapper, some yap and some will never make a murmur no matter how frustrated Quote Link to post
franks barn 10 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 when you say getting him used to dykes, tell me a better way than putting him behind a hare and letting him cross a few. ? walking along a dyke is not getting him used to them Very good idea. It gets used to them quickly or it breaks its neck. Genius! you pal talk shit Quote Link to post
Simoman 110 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 when you say getting him used to dykes, tell me a better way than putting him behind a hare and letting him cross a few. ? walking along a dyke is not getting him used to them Walking, running exercising, do we only get a dog used to fences if he is behind something? imo and all the other lads i know over the years, bar none run dogs young to get them used to the dykes and other obsticles, i`m not saying thrash them. i`m saying give them runs and then hold them back to suit the dogs needs, getting behind something is the best way to do that, and getting back on the subject of yapping, i have never seen a case where running too young makes a dog yap, its in there genes if they are a yapper, some yap and some will never make a murmur no matter how frustrated I have seen dogs that have been overmatched too often, too young and run unfit open up with frustration. I'm in no rush to get a lurcher working as my intention is to run it until it retires. But i get pups out the the fields and woods as soon as they are jabbed up and used to obstacles and the outdoors........ Quote Link to post
lapin2008 1,587 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 when you say getting him used to dykes, tell me a better way than putting him behind a hare and letting him cross a few. ? walking along a dyke is not getting him used to them Very good idea. It gets used to them quickly or it breaks its neck. Genius! you pal talk shit I know mate, thats why I was agreeing with you! Your approach is similar to my way of getting them used to being around traffic. I just lob them out the car in the middle of the M6 and they learn pretty quick 1 Quote Link to post
franks barn 10 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 when you say getting him used to dykes, tell me a better way than putting him behind a hare and letting him cross a few. ? walking along a dyke is not getting him used to them Walking, running exercising, do we only get a dog used to fences if he is behind something? imo and all the other lads i know over the years, bar none run dogs young to get them used to the dykes and other obsticles, i`m not saying thrash them. i`m saying give them runs and then hold them back to suit the dogs needs, getting behind something is the best way to do that, and getting back on the subject of yapping, i have never seen a case where running too young makes a dog yap, its in there genes if they are a yapper, some yap and some will never make a murmur no matter how frustrated I have seen dogs that have been overmatched too often, too young and run unfit open up with frustration. I'm in no rush to get a lurcher working as my intention is to run it until it retires. But i get pups out the the fields and woods as soon as they are jabbed up and used to obstacles and the outdoors........ overmatched ,run unfit, does not make a yapper, breeding definatly does make a yapper. certain breeds of dogs are prone to yapping ie collie whippet, i`m talking about coursing dogs not lampers or hedge hoppers Quote Link to post
FUJI 17,288 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 I'm in no rush to get a lurcher working as my intention is to run it until it retires. But i get pups out the the fields and woods as soon as they are jabbed up and used to obstacles and the outdoors........ Common sense i'd of thought? 1 Quote Link to post
Guest thebigdog Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 a troll, has to be 2 Quote Link to post
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