Roy Williamson 15 Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 Seen a post on airgunbbs for new pellets, the ad reads as follows ....new air rifle pellet from Prometheus Pellets (Pax Guns) of London. This is essentially a re-working of the previously extremely popular and successful Daystate 'Rangemaster' .177 pellet which was so successful on the Field Target circuit. Being the same as the 'Rangemaster' therefore, the new Defiant HFT (Hunter Field Target) 'Competition Grade' is a .177 calibre 8.5 grain (0.55 grams) pellet, being a further development of the already successful 7.5 grain Defiant pellet, which is made in 3 head sizes and with a split skirt. (See seperate listing) The Defiant HFT weighs one grain more than the standard Defiant, and does not have the split skirt. As befits the name, it has been produced to offer a high quality British rival to the admittedly excellent JSB/Air Arms 8.5g pellet, and as such offers outstanding accuracy; flat trajectory and excellent 'wind bucking' properties. It is equally suitable for spring piston/gas ram air rifles, as well as pre charged guns. When the 'Rangemaster' was previously on sale it retailed at around £16 - £18 per box of 500! The new 'HFT' is £9.75 for a similar quantity however, and is available in 2 head sizes, namely 4.50mm (Silver label) and 4.52mm (Gold label) I bought some off the bay, the 4.52 for my hw99. I recommend giving them a go. expensive but the most accurate pellet i have shot in this rifle. ragged 1 hole groups of 5 shots at 20 yds seated at table and resting on my elbows, even when i fluffed a shot and pulled it, it was far tighter to the group than my usual supermags. ATB Roy product No. 130797015497 Quote Link to post
villaman 9,983 Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 Hi Same as most pellets some guns will like them some won't Quote Link to post
Marksman 934 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 if theyre anything like the Ogive I'll give them a wide berth.... Darryl Quote Link to post
AirgunGuy 362 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 if theyre anything like the Ogive I'll give them a wide berth.... Darryl I'm the same mate. Ogives were continually plugged as the next thing and they were crap in my Superten. Quick barrel clean...full barrel clean and hundreds of pellets down range and still couldn't get them to group. They do look great though if you want line them up on the mantle ;+) Quote Link to post
Acuspell 329 Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 The old Defiants (lead) were brilliant in my T10 though - 50 yard groups of one ragged hole. in the SLR98 they group really well too and very efficient through the air. I haven't tried the Ogive ones, but I can't see why they are rubish - they just won't suit some rifles,like any pellet, PLUS it is IMPERATIVE you get the right head size for th ebarrel. That Scorpion used the L size (.22 which I think were 5.53) If i used the M sized ones those groups went to 3" at 30 yards - it isn't the fact the pellet is bad, just not right for that barrel. The SLR uses L size too (or should I say MY SLR uses L size, otherwise same thing, rubbish results). So, don't give up. Try a different head size if they work you will be amazed at how accurate and stable they are. Quote Link to post
clubshot 22 Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 Like any Pellet Or Gun nothing works in All Guns or Gun Fire All Pellets The New HFT Defiants are the same Design as made for Daystate Rangemasters Several years ago When they Marketed them nearly £20.00 per tin They are Made from Quality Lead Wire Stamped out with Single Dies from Laser measured Sluges So will All be the Same - Unlike most Wasted Pelleted that are Rolled from Multi Heads They are All Made in England - Under Archay Road - London N 6 For those Interested - Check out www.defiantpellets.com Forum Board - For Best Deals My Current offer of £10.oo Uk Posted for Cash £13.00 Payment via Cheque - For All Defiants Still Stands for Board Users I have even done mixed Boxes of the New HFT Rounds - 250 of each Head Size in one Box Same Price - BOB/R Quote Link to post
clubshot 22 Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 There are currently over 40 Different Air Gun Pellets Made by Pax Guns And more Designs are in pipeline - As requests and orders come in - Majority are made from Lead - While Able No great advert's in UK Air Gun Press - As Majority are Exported overseas Yes some are reboxed with Different Labels All Are Bullet Shaped and Made from Quality Wire and Stamped out on Single Dies What was Exterminators / Then Logun Penetrators are Now Marketed by Rangeright As - Rangeright Exterminators - BOB/R Quote Link to post
villaman 9,983 Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 The defiant range of pellets seem to suit BSA more than any other gun Quote Link to post
AirgunGuy 362 Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 (edited) I'm not so sure. I know they were plugged a lot on there but if you read the thread/posts of most of the people that actually tried them then you will see that a lot of people didn't like them. They didn't work for me after a full barrel clean and hundreds of pellets fired. Edited November 25, 2012 by AirgunGuy Quote Link to post
nangell 50 Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 i would agree some barrel like them and some dont ,ive had a couple of barrels that have liked the 5.52 ,fly very flat and they isn't much pellet wastage from the tin like a lot of other brands Quote Link to post
clubshot 22 Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 The defiant range of pellets seem to suit BSA more than any other gun Reason they Can work Well in BSA's is that John Bowkett - Supplied Guns for Design and Test work And I Supply Pellets for John Bowkett to supply Test Cards of Serviced Guns that He Works on BOB/R Quote Link to post
Roy Williamson 15 Posted November 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 Are people who say they did not work for them talking about the new type, the HFT competition, I have not tried any other types including the ogives, but these ones worked for me, as had be said, each barrel, even including same model and identical specification can prefer different pellets, I must just be lucky Just a pity it I have not found a cheap brand it loves Quote Link to post
clubshot 22 Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 I doubt if many on this Board or others have Tried the New HFT Pellets As Only been out a Few Weeks No Shops Selling them yet Only myself & Slugun Selling them - Bullet Design touches Front & Back and needs to Find Rifling for Speed & Accuracy They are 20% plus Faster in Flight than normal Wasted Design And as many have found really Stop Air Gun Vermin when hit in the right Place - BOB/R Quote Link to post
Marksman 934 Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 I'll take a box in 4.52mm mate might as well give them a try Pm me payment details of you will. Darryl Quote Link to post
clubshot 22 Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 I'll take a box in 4.52mm mate might as well give them a try Pm me payment details of you will. Darryl You have a PM BOB/R Quote Link to post
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