Decisions, Decisions, Decisions

[Smegg1991 0]

Hi all

 

Im new to the forum and to the Sport/Hobby of air rifleing

 

My need today is i am about to get into it after shooting some of my friends rifles had some fun and wanted to buy my own just for some targets and tin can sort of stuff, dont see my self shooting rabbits or anything,

 

I have narrowed my choice down to 2 rifles both very different read all the reviews and watched all the vids on the "youtube", and was woundering if there was anybody out there that had or does own them and give me some guidence

 

Gun 1: Webley Rebel .177 single shot pneumatic air rifle 8 pumps for full 8.5 ft/lbs power.

some say that after 4 pumps its pretty much un-pumpable so not being able to use the rest of the power is a bit of a killer really, but it does look really nice and a chap in a gun shop by me showed one to me the other day and it was love at first sight but then after reading reviews went looking again,

 

Which brings me to Gun 2: SMK XS79 co2 single shot .177 co2 powered air rifle 800fps worked out with a pellet 0.53g i think it was 11.8ft/lbs which sounds good, but of course theres the storys of loss of power in the cold because of something to do with the co2 being cold. but apat from that sounds like a winner.

 

Any recomendations im all ears

[sureshot.177 49]

I have a webley stingray you can have it for £70 face to face only tho if interested

[Smegg1991 0]

Sureshot.177

 

Thanks for the offer but i think it will be one of the above for me .

[Grayling 56]

If you intend using these rifles at some point in the future for hunting, do not buy the pump up, if you wound an animal the follow up 2nd shot takes to long, so is far from humane. And regardless of what other people say, we all fail with the first shot sometimes, no matter how hard we try not to. I'd give the SMK a miss also, as imho these Chinese made guns are low in price but also very low in quality. Both these rifles would be fine for back garden plinking but I feel if you do become a serious airgunner you'll soon outgrow them and want a better rifle.

 

Why not buy 2nd hand but go for a decent quality springer, like an HW80, HW77, AA TX200 etc. Any one of these would be great for hunting, HFT (well maybe not the ) and killing cans in the back garden.

 

 

Whats your budget ????

Edited November 21, 2012 by Grayling

[zini 1,939]

Id forget the 2 you have posted mate.

 

They are not the best quality rifles, and if you ever decide to get into the sport more seriously than just the back yard plinking you talked about they will have their floors and you will have to buy again.

 

The best advice that I can give you is get a good condition but second hand Weihrauch HW95 in .177 or .22.

 

This rifle will excel at anything that you can throw at it from tin cans in the garden to metal targets to (when your up to it and if practised enough) you do later decide to hunt with it, 50 yard rabbits.

 

Si.

[Smegg1991 0]

Cheers chaps for the reply's, some sound advice there

 

Grayling - my budget is around the 150 mark

taking all that into consideration i really dont think ill move on from plinking anytime in near future, so as for buying another gun later in life doesnt worry me to much id rather take baby steps as it were and just get my targeting right first,

 

Im due a visit to a brilliant little bait and gun shop this weekend so i will have a look at whats on the shelf and see whats on offer taking your thaughts into consideration

 

Cheers chaps

[robwelsh 354]

What about the hatsans? Mole come on , where u to lol

[ghillies 209]

<p>i'd say whats this 'the full 8.5fp's'? legal limits 12 and a pistal can easily stray to to 8 lol...illigal but there yu go.

 

HW80 or what si said..last yu a lifetime looked after.

Edited November 22, 2012 by ghillies

[chris k 205]

with 150 ide trual the gun shops secondhand racks. i once picked up a tx200 for 160 which as any spring shooter on here will tell you is the cream of the crop (top spot only shared with hw97). Dont be scared to hadle here!

[Tron 173]

If your stuck for cash, and want a recoiless rifle the Webley Rebel is being sold for £99.00 in Market Street Wellington Telford. available in both calibres it is easily tweaked to 11 foot pounds plus. I would recomend it in .22 only because its a calibre that would perhaps have more knock down power on rabbits. not everyone can depend on head shots at longish ranges.

[fry 209]

wouldnt want to own either rifle you have listed buy s/h hw or AA springer and as said will last for ever and if you want to resell they will hold value and have cost you nothing.

[Roy Williamson 15]

I picked up a hw99 (wiehrauch) for £140 sh, great rifle. The cost of the 88g co2 is too expensive for plinking, you would need a bulk fill conversion. I would also stay away from pump UPS.

Zini knows what he is talking about, check out his YouTube chanel verminhunters tv.

Atb. Roy.

[Skot Ruthless Teale 1,701]

I picked up a hw99 (wiehrauch) for £140 sh, great rifle. The cost of the 88g co2 is too expensive for plinking, you would need a bulk fill conversion. I would also stay away from pump UPS.

Zini knows what he is talking about, check out his YouTube chanel verminhunters tv.

Atb. Roy.

if he sees vermin hunters tv he WILL want a hw97kt lol

 

but yeah seriously try get a second hand hw95

[Tron 173]

Your right there Bud, Last December I sold a As new HW 95K .177 gun to a mate fitted with a 3x9x40 scope for £200.00 absolutely as new. I have tried to buy it back! but the **** wants to keep it!

[Deker 3,478]

".....had some fun and wanted to buy my own just for some targets and tin can sort of stuff, dont see my self shooting rabbits or anything."

 

Both the rifles you listed would be fine for this, virtually every respondant has suggested you will want something better if you start on the bunnies. That is as may be, not everyone does, if you are intending just some targets and tin can sort of stuff, as you say, then you will have fun with these!

 

If you want to move up to shooting live things then I would suggest you want better than some have suggested, so stick with it and get what you want!