gnasher16 30,046 Posted November 18, 2012 Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 (edited) What a pair of plums !.....Brookie like you say its probably best you dont get into these boxing threads i agree....because you either dont read very well or dont really understand the sport like i once thought you did........or probably a bit of both ! If you re-read i said Froch could not get near Calzaghe for pure ability and would more than likely lose to him 99 times out of 100................but to suggest Calzaghe showed heart anywhere near the level Froch has tells me you dont see " heart " or " gameness " in the same way i do..........fighting with a sore hand doesnt show gameness.....cruising to wide margin points wins doesnt show gamness....................................coming back from disappointing losses,coming through fights you are well behind and being beaten in......shows heart and gameness.............. Calzaghe was so good he never had to show gameness !!!......Only a couple of divs who dont really understand gameness would see that as knocking him !! Edited November 18, 2012 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brookie 1,193 Posted November 18, 2012 Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 What a pair of plums !.....Brookie like you say its probably best you dont get into these boxing threads i agree....because you either dont read very well or dont really understand the sport like i once thought you did........or probably a bit of both ! If you re-read i said Froch could not get near Calzaghe for pure ability and would more than likely lose to him 99 times out of 100................but to suggest Calzaghe showed heart anywhere near the level Froch has tells me you dont see " heart " or " gameness " in the same way i do..........fighting with a sore hand doesnt show gameness.....cruising to wide margin points wins doesnt show gamness....................................coming back from disappointing losses,coming through fights you are well behind and being beaten in......shows heart and gameness.............. Calzaghe was so good he never had to show gameness !!!......Only a couple of divs who dont really understand gameness wouldnt be able to see that !! your also king of the one liners (insults ) like i pointed out to you once before talk is cheap .im not into name calling kid Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Happy Jack 43 Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 What a pair of plums !.....Brookie like you say its probably best you dont get into these boxing threads i agree....because you either dont read very well or dont really understand the sport like i once thought you did........or probably a bit of both ! If you re-read i said Froch could not get near Calzaghe for pure ability and would more than likely lose to him 99 times out of 100................but to suggest Calzaghe showed heart anywhere near the level Froch has tells me you dont see " heart " or " gameness " in the same way i do..........fighting with a sore hand doesnt show gameness.....cruising to wide margin points wins doesnt show gamness....................................coming back from disappointing losses,coming through fights you are well behind and being beaten in......shows heart and gameness.............. Calzaghe was so good he never had to show gameness !!!......Only a couple of divs who dont really understand gameness would see that as knocking him !! gnash i love reading and always respect your knowledge of boxing but for the life of me i cant understand your thinking on joe calzaghe Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fireman 10,869 Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 Maybe he's saying(not talking for another man) Joe was never the under dog and was never really to troubled by anyone he fought so he never had to dig deep to turn it round when the pressure was on and he was struggling,To keep going when it seems all is lost is gameness ,Joe never had to show gameness as he was always winning or still comfortable when under pressure,to be honest it's a big up for Joe's class in my eyes and not a knock 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWSBOY 306 Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 (edited) What a pair of plums !.....Brookie like you say its probably best you dont get into these boxing threads i agree....because you either dont read very well or dont really understand the sport like i once thought you did........or probably a bit of both ! If you re-read i said Froch could not get near Calzaghe for pure ability and would more than likely lose to him 99 times out of 100................but to suggest Calzaghe showed heart anywhere near the level Froch has tells me you dont see " heart " or " gameness " in the same way i do..........fighting with a sore hand doesnt show gameness.....cruising to wide margin points wins doesnt show gamness....................................coming back from disappointing losses,coming through fights you are well behind and being beaten in......shows heart and gameness.............. Calzaghe was so good he never had to show gameness !!!......Only a couple of divs who dont really understand gameness would see that as knocking him !! man, u live in a dream world, calzaghe got the lot, froch good, notts lad like me,couldnt lace the boots of calzaghe in anyway shape or form. Edited November 19, 2012 by NEWSBOY Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulf 820 Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 If i remember right calzagie got off the floor in the first round against hopkins and roy jones and still won comftably ,if that aint gameness what is . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tel1 25 Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 If i remember right calzagie got off the floor in the first round against hopkins and roy jones and still won comftably ,if that aint gameness what is . and they were both over forty and well past there best when joe decided to fight them ??? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWSBOY 306 Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 If i remember right calzagie got off the floor in the first round against hopkins and roy jones and still won comftably ,if that aint gameness what is . and they were both over forty and well past there best when joe decided to fight them ??? even at there best, joe would have been to fast to busy for them, all greats tho Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulf 820 Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 If i remember right calzagie got off the floor in the first round against hopkins and roy jones and still won comftably ,if that aint gameness what is . and they were both over forty and well past there best when joe decided to fight them ??? even at there best, joe would have been to fast to busy for them, all greats tho and i bet froch still couldnt beat hopkins now. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWSBOY 306 Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 If i remember right calzagie got off the floor in the first round against hopkins and roy jones and still won comftably ,if that aint gameness what is . and they were both over forty and well past there best when joe decided to fight them ??? even at there best, joe would have been to fast to busy for them, all greats tho and i bet froch still couldnt beat hopkins now. yes, but not 10 year ago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
*The*Field*Marshall* 674 Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 Lol come on, Joe would have been trashed by Hopkins and Jones at their best! Especially Roy Jones Jnr! Miss match. Don't let records impress boys, it only means you've beat what's in front of you. Nothing more. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulf 820 Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 i agree mate jones was one of the best never said joe would beat them in there prime just froch wouldnt beat them now all i was saying was that joe showed guts and heart to get up and win . 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Happy Jack 43 Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 (edited) roy jones jr wasnt as good as people make em out to be he wasnt to keen to fight steve collins when jones was in his prime Edited November 19, 2012 by Happy Jack Quote Link to post Share on other sites
*The*Field*Marshall* 674 Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 There is no question of Joe's guts and heart once he was "in" the ring. His desire to win was second to none. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Happy Jack 43 Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 if i remember rightly jeff lacy was going to show joe up for what he was....em and he did 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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