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[brock 11]

they dont really stop once started doing it on a regular basis,they can quiten down but never stop totally,ive heard dogs do it on the one off and never do it again.my first lurcher did it and never stopped i was devastated as he would take any quarry,and would have been a top dog if it wasnt for the yapping.if its in them then you just cant stop it.

[bernie.g 0]

don't run the dog on any thing till you start lamping, start the dog on squatters or easy runs if the dog opens up switch the lamp of,f the dog will shut up cos it can't see anything . as soon as it opens up switch it off it will soon understand the fun stops when it opens up

[Phil Lloyd 10,738]

"Opening Up".....

Edited June 28, 2007 by CHALKWARREN

[cymruguy69 5]

don't run the dog on any thing till you start lamping, start the dog on squatters or easy runs if the dog opens up switch the lamp of,f the dog will shut up cos it can't see anything . as soon as it opens up switch it off it will soon understand the fun stops when it opens up

 

Out of all the advice Iv'e been given this one sounds like it might just work I can't believe Iv'e never thought of that!

 

I'm not going to quit on this dog It's my first lurcher and I will do anything so she makes the grade.

 

I'm praying she comes through this! Wish me luck

 

I will try droppers and squatters! One thing, should I do the droppers on the lamp or should I do them in the daylight.

 

I wouldn't normally give the dog a dropper but if it stops her yapping Il do anything!

 

Cheers Guys

[Guest reload]

I would be really interested to hear of any methods that have worked with this problem.

 

I have seen quite a few yap slightly after a hard night, or a difficult rabbit on the turn, just a small yip...Not much though. Never heard a full on yaaaaaaaaaaappppperrrr

 

A small yip once in a blue moon i could live.

 

Good luck cymru, keep with it mate

Edited June 28, 2007 by reload

[cymruguy69 5]

I would be really interested to hear of any methods that have worked with this problem.

 

I have seen quite a few yap slightly after a hard night, or a difficult rabbit on the turn, just a small yip...Not much though. Never heard a full on yaaaaaaaaaaappppperrrr

 

A small yip once in a blue moon i could live.

 

Good luck cymru, keep with it mate

 

 

Cheers Reload Il do my best!!

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

I HAVE NEVER OWNED A YAPPER BUT HAVE KNOWN QUITE A FEW THAT HAVE ..... UNLIKE SOME PEOPLE WHO JUST READ AND LISTEN TO OTHERS THEN GIVE ADVICE ...INSTEAD OF GIVING ADVICE DUE TO EXSPEARIENCE

 

 

And what was all that based on, mate? Half a bottle of Jack? Classic!

 

Anyway, as long as poor Cymru's heart hasn't been broken over his Dog, that's alright by me. The guy obviously has the sense not to listen to the 'Fukitshootitgetanuvva' brigade so hopefully he'll advance and learn by personal experiance. Just as we all had to in those dark days before the net of a thousand strong opinions

 

But now I'd like to sneakily light the blue paper on another facet of this whole debate. And this is a point which ~ genuinely ~ leaves me about as nonplussed as Snoops mangled statement of pidgin logic above! I Really do wonder where the sense is in this following consideration too. Let's have ye views, please ..... no need to shout though. I can hear quite well with my left ear

 

Scenario One: Ye go out on a bit of ground where ye have full written permission to remove some rabbits. K? Ye take along a few nippy little lurkers and a few assorted, rough and ready terriers. The bun's are in the bramble patches so the few of ye 'surround' a clump and encourage the terriers in.

 

All's silence and tension for a minute. Breath unconciously held and eyes appear to be the only thing moving in that field. Then there's a muffled 'yap!' from deep inside the bush. A rustle. A rush. A Lurker galvanises and someone yells " GooAaaaaaaarn! ". Necks crane and positions shift as all try to get a good view of a swift course and a tidy pick up and retrieve.

 

That breaks the spell and now it's grins and thumbs ups all round as all hell breaks loose in the cover and the fun has well and truly begun.

 

Sound familiar? Does to me. I've been there countless times. And what's so wrong with that? Nothing that I know of.

 

 

Scenario Two: Ye out at night and it blowing a tempest. You and ye mate have just crawled out of a ditch and under a barbed wire fence. Battery pack and lamp weighing. Ye Lurkers are fit and keen as ye advance cautiously onto the field, panning ye million candle power beam left to right. The lamp sends a solid rod of whiteness piercing through the inky black for an acres distance, seeking out the tell tale twin ruby orbs. There's one! It's your Dogs turn and his stiffened stance and manic stare shows he's seen it alright. Ye slip him and away he goes.

 

As ye urge him on under ye breath the rabbit, now plainly in view within the powerful beam, jinks right and goes for all he's worth towards the far hedge. Ye Dog gets behind him and closes. Rabbit turns left and goes up the field, level with the hedge. Dog makes up the lost ground in no time and they diminish toward the end of the beam and almost seem to fade into the night. Ye can just make the Dog out as he now turns left again and is now heading back into the field. Above the rustling wind buffeting ye ears ye make out a muffled 'Yap! Yap! ..... Yap!'. Then there's definately a squeal. Now ye Dog's trotting back up the beam towards ye, rabbit in his jaws.

 

Trying not to look at the disgust and contempt etched on ye mates face, ye take the rabbit. Collar the Dog and the pair of ye trudge back to the van. That nights foray prematurely over. Once home, ye tie that worthless piece of shit to the garage work bench and storm off to the gun cabinet.

 

 

Now, what's that all about? I Genuinely can't see where some of you people are coming from. Ye see; I've been out rabbiting, with and without permission. Night time and broad daylight. I've pursued other things too, with no mans blessing. I've had terriers raising cane as they've got hot on a bushed bunny. I've also had Lurkers go off like loons in the dead of night. What's the differance? Are ye saying that terriers barks occellate on such a frequency as to pass over ye, where as a lurchers voice sends ye into a pathalogical frenzy? Is it something in the sound?

 

Or are ye saying that, being the Great Night Hunter that ye are, out there where no man should be and in pursuit of such quarry as could see ye severely beaten and then jailed, that your swift and stealthy partner in crime Must be mute. Is it because the 'Keeper may be drawn to that distant, muffled yapping?

 

See; I could maybe work out where ye coming from, on That basis. The only thing that always leaves me scratching my head is that Million Candle Power " Night Blaster " white f*cking laser show that ye seem perfectly happy to lay on for the entire damn district! Dog barking? I hear Dogs barking in the night all the time here. But when someone's out with the lamp in a five mile radius? It's a treat to watch!

 

With me now? I'm not poking anyone, look. I'm not trying to wind anyone up. I'm not trying to tell anyone anything. I'm sat here like a little boy. Waiting for any of you lot to stick the ping pong balls in ye eyes and explain to me what makes ye tick like ye do, as evidenced by what ye've already said above.

 

Thankyou, in advance

[Guest reload]

In reply to Mr shitters thought provoking post :D The only practical reason I can come up with is that yapping, may upset and spook game in the same field or possibly adjoining fields?

I could imaging this being a problem if you have several rabbits all satout in say tuffty grass, and you are sending the dog out to pick em up, you lampers know the scenario I am sure

 

Thats all I can come up with, other than it is firkin annoying.

Edited June 28, 2007 by reload

[Guest Haggler]

There is always "de-barking" if the yapping is really a problem, whether percieved or real. Seems to me if you had a great long dog and its only drawback was a yap now and then it would be reasonable to have a vet punch (not cut) the cords to take it down to a whisper. By the time you go through raising, starting and actually hunting a dog another year and a half of your life has passed. If you raised 10 yappers in a row that would be 15 years of no hunting. Punch the cords and run the dog.

 

Haggler

[Guest reload]

There is always "de-barking" if the yapping is really a problem, whether percieved or real. Seems to me if you had a great long dog and its only drawback was a yap now and then it would be reasonable to have a vet punch (not cut) the cords to take it down to a whisper. By the time you go through raising, starting and actually hunting a dog another year and a half of your life has passed. If you raised 10 yappers in a row that would be 15 years of no hunting. Punch the cords and run the dog.

 

Haggler

 

 

Hardcore solution there haggler, I am not sure you could get a vet to do it here or not :hmm:

[snoopdog 1,256]

i was on tyhe whisky actually ditch i havnt read your last post because its proberly a load off dribble like the fisrt one stick to trapping rats ....... dont switch the lamp out on the dog if it yaps ive had enough you will do what you thinks best iam sure ..the best of luck because your going to need it ...

[Ray Mears 272]

i think i have a solution

[Guest joe ox]

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Edited May 18, 2008 by joe ox

[cymruguy69 5]

I do actually believe it is excitment it couldnt be anything else shes run 3 rabbits. unless its in her to just do it that is. only time will tell. if she does carry on I wont get rid of her and definitly wont shoot her thats for sure.

 

Ive got 2 droppers ready for her so we'l just have to see how she does!!

 

Wish me luck

 

[snoopdog 1,256]

I do actually believe it is excitment it couldnt be anything else shes run 3 rabbits. unless its in her to just do it that is. only time will tell. if she does carry on I wont get rid of her and definitly wont shoot her thats for sure.

 

Ive got 2 droppers ready for her so we'l just have to see how she does!!

 

Wish me luck

 

good luck mate you deserve it ......