Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 anybody who thinks mike tyson and tyson fury are in the same league are not boxing fans . I dont think anyone has said that mate?!? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mexlad 189 Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 i agree with the split in the division it shud be done wat im trying to say if he fights someone 2stone heavier hes f****d imho Its not the weight thats the problem Klitchkos,Price Fury etc are not a great deal heavier than previous eras Lennox/Bowe back to the ,s big fellas Witherspoon/Biggs/Thomas etc etc they were all 17/18 stone fighters.....................the telling factor now is these guys sheer size and length.......a fighter like Fury or Price even though inferior to Haye in terms of ability should be able to keep him at the end of a long jab all night and also have enough mobility to not let his speed be a factor.........it makes for boring fights as we have seen with the Klitchkos but while there is no heavyweight limit we will continue to see these basketball player type fighters dominating the division on size alone. And despite what folk tend to think,Marciano never went more than 1 stone uphill in a world title fight......and never fought an opponent more than about 3 inches taller......all heavyweights were smaller back then not just Marciano its silly now adays in the heavyweight division there can be 4,5,6 + stone advantage its like a bantam weight fighting a cruiserweight or a heavyweight 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 i agree with the split in the division it shud be done wat im trying to say if he fights someone 2stone heavier hes f****d imho Its not the weight thats the problem Klitchkos,Price Fury etc are not a great deal heavier than previous eras Lennox/Bowe back to the ,s big fellas Witherspoon/Biggs/Thomas etc etc they were all 17/18 stone fighters.....................the telling factor now is these guys sheer size and length.......a fighter like Fury or Price even though inferior to Haye in terms of ability should be able to keep him at the end of a long jab all night and also have enough mobility to not let his speed be a factor.........it makes for boring fights as we have seen with the Klitchkos but while there is no heavyweight limit we will continue to see these basketball player type fighters dominating the division on size alone. And despite what folk tend to think,Marciano never went more than 1 stone uphill in a world title fight......and never fought an opponent more than about 3 inches taller......all heavyweights were smaller back then not just Marciano its silly now adays in the heavyweight division there can be 4,5,6 + stone advantage its like a bantam weight fighting a cruiserweight or a heavyweight I fought at 14st 8lb in September, my opponent was 19st 6lb :-( Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brookie 1,193 Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 hughie fury our cousin is just two fights away from the gold medal in the world amateur championships . fighting for team gb .hes already guaranteed a bronze medal , Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Floyd17586 454 Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 Well done to him must run in the family. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 hughie fury our cousin is just two fights away from the gold medal in the world amateur championships . fighting for team gb .hes already guaranteed a bronze medal , and harder to win than olympics 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,280 Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 I fought at 14st 8lb in September, my opponent was 19st 6lb :-( That white collar lark cant be that short of people doing it surely............why dont you just knock yourself down 4lb theres virtually nobody fighting at 200-210 these days Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,280 Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 hughie fury our cousin is just two fights away from the gold medal in the world amateur championships . fighting for team gb .hes already guaranteed a bronze medal , Are there 2 Hughies are they Tysons brothers or cousins i forget what i was told now.....is the one your on about the big heavyweight trains out of Amir Khans gym ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 I like being one of the smaller heavyweights mate. I'm sure sooner or later I will come up against a tall good boxer who will put me down but so far I've been fitter than all the lads I've boxed, most were my height (6' 2") or shorter but alot heavier and less mobile. Gaz. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,280 Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 Doesnt matter what the weight division is......... fighting a bigger opponent will always be a disadvantage............if Calzaghe could of made middleweight,believe me....he would have !..............works the same across the board....................the fact there are so few fighters between 200 - 210.....is pretty self explannatory really. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brookie 1,193 Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 (edited) hughie fury our cousin is just two fights away from the gold medal in the world amateur championships . fighting for team gb .hes already guaranteed a bronze medal , Are there 2 Hughies are they Tysons brothers or cousins i forget what i was told now.....is the one your on about the big heavyweight trains out of Amir Khans gym ?its peters son gnash he trains out of peters gym .hes tysons cousin ,tyson has a younger brother bigger than tyson ,whos also showing good potential . theyre all very big men .my youngest boy is 6ft 6inches and 18 stone .it seems the norm these days .hughie was training out of khans gym as well gnash Edited December 6, 2012 by brookie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Doesnt matter what the weight division is......... fighting a bigger opponent will always be a disadvantage............if Calzaghe could of made middleweight,believe me....he would have !..............works the same across the board....................the fact there are so few fighters between 200 - 210.....is pretty self explannatory really. Fair Point. And your right, it is always a disadvantage I guess. The massive lad i fought was 19 stone 6lb and couldnt fight his way out of a paper bag, but his sheer size made it hard work for me and when i watched the video back he made me look like a crap fighter compared to when ive boxed lads more my size. Gaz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brookie 1,193 Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 hughie fury as won silver and fights for gold on saturday 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BEARINATOR 2,872 Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 hughie fury as won silver and fights for gold on saturday hughie fury as won silver and fights for gold on saturday Good luck to him mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Weldone to the lad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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