robwelsh 354 Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 The more i think about it, the more i want a springer again. so the quetiion is, how do these two perform, other than ones slightly heavier and a fixed barrel is there much diffrence in the firing department, one more enjoyable to shoot than the other etc? Im definately thinking about getting one after christmas secondhand if i cn, and as cheap as possible, il sort the wood out and tony at sfs can make it reassuring for me that its the best it can be, if and when it can be fit in for an overhaul.. read so many things about tonys work its got me thinking, i NEED one lol not want anymore but need. any advice on what to look out for on the secondhand ones? cheers atb Quote Link to post
pianoman 3,587 Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 (edited) If it came to just one and one only....I really couldn't make my mind up! Both are just superb rifles Rob. It will really come down to which one you like the look and handling of, for the type of shooting you want to do, best of all. I've spent a great afternoon today range-testing an HW97KT thumbhole in beech. The stock has an adjustable butt-pad and the rifle was .22 calibre. I was absolutely won over by how good this rifle handled and performed and after a think about what I was really in need of, I've gone for a .177 version for HFT. I'm very well served for .22 precision hunting with my HW77 and FAC HW80. Though, I have no hesitation about using the new rifle for hunting as well as competition shooting. The HW95 is light, compact and is a sweet handling, full power sporting hunter. Price at even brand new is not so dear to buy. A shade under £300 will buy you a brand new one. There are plenty of 2nd user 95s and 97s of all calibres and stock types so, really, take your time and think about what you want to spend. The great thing about Weihrauch is they make their rifles tough as Panzer tanks and absolutely precision accurate. There are guys here who have turned rusted-up basket case HW80s and 77s back into superbly effective hunting rifles because the internals have withstood the external abuses or they have been able to get replacement parts and refit and refurb without too much difficulty. So it's really what do you want from your choices? Lightweight, sweet handling full power accuracy? Or a supremely accurate all-scenario capable hunter you can fill your game bag from all ranges? Either will be a fine gun you can absolutely rely on Best wishes. Simon Edited November 10, 2012 by pianoman Quote Link to post
Skot Ruthless Teale 1,701 Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 When i pick up my 97kt it feels more comfortable in the shoulder but the 95k in standard sporter stock delivers amazing results even tho it doesnt feel as 'right' in the shoulder. both amazing rifles if i could have only one i would probably keep the 95!!! Thats a bold statement isnt it! Quote Link to post
pianoman 3,587 Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 (edited) It's a true one though Skot. If that's how you find your HW95 to you! The HW98 is another on my shopping list too. That's a 95 action with a bull barrel and an adjustable stock. And it's a blisteringly accurate sporter! One for Rob to consider too! Cheers mate. Simon Edited November 10, 2012 by pianoman 1 Quote Link to post
Mawders 595 Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 Well you know I own a HW95K and to me it just feels so right. I've fired the 97 in a KT synthetic stock and although it had everything going for it I still prefer the pick up and point ability of the 95K. It is light, and the stock is ambidextrous which means the cheek piece is not dedicated to one or the other and therefor doesn't come up high enough for my liking but its something you get used to. Mines been stage 1 tuned by tony at SFS and its by far the best springer I've ever fired. Hardly any recoil and I would go as far as saying deadly quiet! The only thing is because of its light weight it is prone to being very hold sensitive and the slightest mistake made by the shooter and the gun will punish you. I shot a fly at 40 lased yards in the prone position that's how accurate it is if shot properly, something I tried and struggled to do with my pcp's. The 95 is just magical to shoot and I put that down to the gun and how solidly built it is and coupled with Tony's magic! You won't go wrong with either but the 95 makes a wonderful stalking rifle and superbly accurate in the right hands. Best break barrel I have ever fired! Quote Link to post
robwelsh 354 Posted November 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 The weight isn't a problem I'm not slightly built so it doesn't phase me carrying it about. It's going to be the age old saying, try both see which fits best. And I'm 99% sure il be at the next meet because my daughter will be here by then..if if she isn't she be coming out looking like a sumo wrestler lol I like break barrels slightly better as they seem to be less fiddly than the underlever loading bay. But I quite like the add weight, or the thought of the added weight up front of them for taming the flip..hmm, I have plenty of time to think about this one anyway, an my mate got a few spring guns knocking about, like a very old 77 ,97k century or whatever its called both in laminate stocks, he has an 80k in bits up there too atm. So it be best if I probably went up and had a go..I just don't know anyone round here with the 95k ..we shall see. Thanks for feedback.atb Quote Link to post
j j m 6,580 Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 the hw95k is a very nice rifle to use while out hunting not to heavy and is bang on the button for power the ones ive had shoulder very nicely too Quote Link to post
zini 1,939 Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 Both rifles are very nice to own and shoot Rob. Ive had around 3 or 4 95's and around 3 97's if I remember correctly (maybe more who knows) I don't think that you can distinguish accuracy wise between them both. If I was only allowed to pick one of the 2 then I think I would choice the HW95K over the HW97KT. Once stage 1 tuned from SFS the rifle is just a all round awesome tool, accurate, smooth, light and a joy to use. Dont get me wrong the HW97KT is also brilliant, mine is currently my favourite rifle that I own and keeps up with my HW100 S accuracy wise if I do my part shooting it. Si. 2 Quote Link to post
Skot Ruthless Teale 1,701 Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 here lad have a drool over these hope they help make your mind up a bit faster.. out of these 3 i prefer the 95k Quote Link to post
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