SELLING PROVEN DOGS

[jawn 449]

All it takes to aviod all the drama is to take the proven dog hunting yourself. If the man doing the selling doesn't agree, and you buy it anyway, or you were too busy to see for yourself... who's to blame?

 

Same goes for pups... If you buy a pup without doing your homework, is it the sellers fault that it fails to meet your expectations?? Was it the price tag that changed the dogs DNA into that of a shteater? Half or better of choosing the right pup begins and ends in starting with the right litter. That means doing your homework, and not taking shortcuts. If you buy a dog based on a sales pitch... your likely to end up with only a sales pitch.

[Guest Leveller]

Have you bought a dog for cash before?

 

I've never paid for a terrier

 

whats differance in paying for a terrier,lurcher or spanial?

 

Sorry I have no idea what the difference is

[whippet 99 2,613]

No offense intended.

 

None taken personaly I would never charge for a pup/older dog (not that I ever have any spare anyway) each to their own but dogs and cash just shouldn't go together

 

Have you bought a dog for cash before?

i know this question is not aimed at me but, i would honestly say i have brought dogs ,....and im sure now that amonst friends i will never have to buy one again,.......... just being honest

[jawn 449]

That is a great position to be in. I could probably go for quite a while without buying one. But I don't mind paying for a dog, especially when the seller is an honest man who's sent me first class terriers from day one. To tell the truth he's doing me the favor.

[gonetoearth 5,144]

QAQ

All it takes to aviod all the drama is to take the proven dog hunting yourself. If the man doing the selling doesn't agree, and you buy it anyway, or you were too busy to see for yourself... who's to blame?

 

Same goes for pups... If you buy a pup without doing your homework, is it the sellers fault that it fails to meet your expectations?? Was it the price tag that changed the dogs DNA into that of a shteater? Half or better of choosing the right pup begins and ends in starting with the right litter. That means doing your homework, and not taking shortcuts. If you buy a dog based on a sales pitch... your likely to end up with only a sales pitch.

. What a lot of shite worker to worker dont gareuntee a pup will turn out a worker homework my arse selling So called working proven or what ever you want to call it. For finacail gain is not what terrier work is about times have changed any one sell Ing a true earth dog must be blessed and have a kennel full. selling the tools you need to do a job when your going to need them to do the next job or maybe the tools aint as good as the tools you have in your tool shed eh and you just want shut !!!!!!! Just hope your tools dont break and your left with no spares eh MIND YOU JUST GO BUY SOME MORE. LOL Edited November 12, 2012 by gonetoearth

[Born Hunter 17,763]

Personally I thought what Jawn said was cock on and very logical. It makes no odds whether the dog is a gift or at a price, you're decision making process to take on the dog is the same. There have been plenty of dogs gifted that were shite. There's no garuntees but if you are after a certain dog or pup then you do your homework find the best you can and if it's at a price you pay it right? Or do you go to the second, third or fourth best you can find as long as it's free?

 

I'm not saying that it's right to charge or what is fair to charge or whatever because I don't think money should be involved really but that said I couldn't give a shit about that when looking for my next dog. All I care about is getting the best dog I can fairly and if that's at a price I'll pay it, because I don't want second best just because it's free.

[gonetoearth 5,144]

For sale terrier proven not as good as the rest but thats just my opinion mind you the rest might not be as proven as some one elses proven but might be better than some one elses proven , all depends on your understanding of proven Any way it 800 conkers and a catty , or a ferret but the ferret must be proven but lets not go there eh !!!!!!

[Born Hunter 17,763]

LOL

[jawn 449]

QAQ

All it takes to aviod all the drama is to take the proven dog hunting yourself. If the man doing the selling doesn't agree, and you buy it anyway, or you were too busy to see for yourself... who's to blame?

 

Same goes for pups... If you buy a pup without doing your homework, is it the sellers fault that it fails to meet your expectations?? Was it the price tag that changed the dogs DNA into that of a shteater? Half or better of choosing the right pup begins and ends in starting with the right litter. That means doing your homework, and not taking shortcuts. If you buy a dog based on a sales pitch... your likely to end up with only a sales pitch.

. What a lot of shite worker to worker dont gareuntee a pup will turn out a worker homework my arse selling So called working proven or what ever you want to call it. For finacail gain is not what terrier work is about times have changed any one sell Ing a true earth dog must be blessed and have a kennel full. selling the tools you need to do a job when your going to need them to do the next job or maybe the tools aint as good as the tools you have in your tool shed eh and you just want shut !!!!!!! Just hope your tools dont break and your left with no spares eh MIND YOU JUST GO BUY SOME MORE. LOL

 

First off.... I'm not selling anything. The advice is free so feel free to take it or leave it. Who said anything about guarentees chief???

We're all adults here.. or at least we should be. If you wan't a guarentee...buy a proven dog you haven't hunted from a man you don't know and I'll guarentee your chances of getting what you wanted just went way down. I know.... I've been doing it for years.

 

Here's the thing... It's about personal responsibility. If you don't want to buy a dog...It's easy.... don't.

If you wan't to get everything for free...Hunt with like minded people and everybody's happy.

 

I think it's pretty clear that the price tag, or lack of one, has zero to do with the liklihood of a pup turning out. The formula for making the best decision doesn't change even if you limit your search to only those willing to give you a pup. Starting with the right litter is more than half the battle.

 

But we're not talking about pups turning out, or whether or not it's wise to hunt with a "proven dog" prior to giving your hard earned cash in exchange for it are we. We're now into tradition territory. I respect the idea that you hunt with folks that don't believe in paying for dogs. I respect the idea that you think paying for a worker is offensive.

 

I have no problem paying for a dog. I live in Texas... the terriers I use come from far away places. The men that breed them.... don't breed them for money. Every pup they send me subtracts from the statistical worth of the breeding pair. If you've ever been around Drahthaaars and the working tests you know what I am talking about. We can't test these terriers in Texas. Every one I get is a mark against a man's record. That aside... I'm not suggesting that ANYONE buy ANYTHING. I am suggesting that if your going to... to do your damn homework for obvious reasons. I am also suggesting that a price tag, or lack of one has little to do with a dogs true worth.

Nuff said.

[gonetoearth 5,144]

Do all the god dam home work you want still wont tell you the out come you buy your terriers in says a lot too , your qarry would be ground hog possum maybe coon , , if you run them above ground may be fox dont think you would be fool enogh to try them on yote , so all the testing in the world dont mean a rats ass to were you use you terriers sir.

[gonetoearth 5,144]

Do all the god dam home work you want still wont tell you the out come you buy your terriers in says a lot too , your qarry would be ground hog possum maybe coon , , if you run them above ground may be fox dont think you would be fool enogh to try them on yote , so all the testing in the world dont mean a rats ass to were you use you terriers sir.

. Oh. And by the way i have great repect for american terrier men the ones i have come in contact with work and breed to the highestt standerd and hold their terriers in high regard , Edited November 12, 2012 by gonetoearth

[jawn 449]

Look here buddy..... I'm not selling OR giving away anything here, other than common sense..

 

I am not advocating the sale of..... nor am I condemning the gifting of terriers.

 

The topic is "Selling Proven Dogs." My advice was pretty straight forward in my oppinion. If you don't buy, or don't want to buy "proven dogs".... so be it. If you think there is no such thing, or that the sale of said dog is somehow wrong.... so be it.

 

But to those that will, (as I have done on many occasion) buy dogs they believe to be "proven," I said where possible to take the dog hunting before you buy it. If it's pups... hunt with the parents, or talk to those that have. I said it increases your odds of getting what your after and I stand on that statement.

 

This isn't some pissing contest... or attack or your way of doing things. I'll do what works for what I do, and I'm sure you'll do the same.

 

If you want to run around flapping your arms hollering over the injustice of the sale of a dog you'll never buy suit yourself.

[gonetoearth 5,144]

Look here buddy..... I'm not selling OR giving away anything here, other than common sense..

 

I am not advocating the sale of..... nor am I condemning the gifting of terriers.

 

The topic is "Selling Proven Dogs." My advice was pretty straight forward in my oppinion. If you don't buy, or don't want to buy "proven dogs".... so be it. If you think there is no such thing, or that the sale of said dog is somehow wrong.... so be it.

 

But to those that will, (as I have done on many occasion) buy dogs they believe to be "proven," I said where possible to take the dog hunting before you buy it. If it's pups... hunt with the parents, or talk to those that have. I said it increases your odds of getting what your after and I stand on that statement.

 

This isn't some pissing contest... or attack or your way of doing things. I'll do what works for what I do, and I'm sure you'll do the same.

 

If you want to run around flapping your arms hollering over the injustice of the sale of a dog you'll never buy suit yourself.

Seems to be your good self running round flaping and hollering buddy i could not give a rats ass who buys sells what just hate the statement proven and 100%. Etc etc. you seem to take great store on test and certifcats that prove things maybe thats why so mutch shite got got sent to the states back in the day but hey bud if the come with a certificate it must be true HAVE A NICE DAY. YA ALL Edited November 12, 2012 by gonetoearth

[gonetoearth 5,144]

And just as a matter of interest the terrier in the first pic what was that tested on ?

[GrCh 856]

Look here buddy..... I'm not selling OR giving away anything here, other than common sense..

 

I am not advocating the sale of..... nor am I condemning the gifting of terriers.

 

The topic is "Selling Proven Dogs." My advice was pretty straight forward in my oppinion. If you don't buy, or don't want to buy "proven dogs".... so be it. If you think there is no such thing, or that the sale of said dog is somehow wrong.... so be it.

 

But to those that will, (as I have done on many occasion) buy dogs they believe to be "proven," I said where possible to take the dog hunting before you buy it. If it's pups... hunt with the parents, or talk to those that have. I said it increases your odds of getting what your after and I stand on that statement.

 

This isn't some pissing contest... or attack or your way of doing things. I'll do what works for what I do, and I'm sure you'll do the same.

 

If you want to run around flapping your arms hollering over the injustice of the sale of a dog you'll never buy suit yourself.

Seems to be your good self running round flaping and hollering buddy i could not give a rats ass who buys sells what just hate the statement proven and 100%. Etc etc. you seem to take great store on test and certifcats that prove things maybe thats why so mutch shite got got sent to the states back in the day but hey bud if the come with a certificate it must be true HAVE A NICE DAY. YA ALL

 

How come you dont like the term 100% when the dogs have been 100% on all the digs its been on?