Matt3699 142 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 There are a lot of public footpaths around my area. Most of them go on for miles and stretch through fields. The law states that public footpaths are open any time of the day or night for use. So walking a public footpath with a dog... and a torch/ lamp at night isn't illegal... It got me thinking the other night. Now the days are shorter it's becoming necessary to walk the dog at night. I always take her behind my house into the fields along the public footpath... But the other night I came across a guy shooting. I asked where he was heading and we had a quick chat and went our separate ways, I expected him to say something more... like what I was upto... But all he said was there wasn't many rabbits about. Does anyone walk along public footpaths at night with dogs... Would this count as pouching if a rabbit just so happened to run in front of you? Anyone received any attention from doing this? Quote Link to post
Ray Mears 272 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 if your caught with a lamp and a dog on a public footpath i think your in the shit anyway to be honest. you will probley get done with some bullshit made up on the spot like going equiped to poach or some bollox Quote Link to post
Giro 2,648 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Its only poaching if you get caught :laugh: 5 Quote Link to post
Matt3699 142 Posted November 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Yeah I just searched and this topic has been done before. Some bullshit about going out equipped. Walking at night kind of requires a light source... so that law is bullshit in my opinion. Just because it's a Lurcher. I bet if I was walking a newfoundland at night I wouldn't get any bother. Well I will have to make sure I don't get anything jumping in front of me and dog then ... And better get knocking on some more doors... which is proving to be more and more bloody difficult to get a yes. Quote Link to post
Ray Mears 272 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 just keep on the move if its on top. stagger your times you go out if going on land regular avoid making patterns regular routes etc. and when it all goes pete tounge run like the f*****g wind 1 Quote Link to post
pip1968 2,490 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 i put a thread up about an rspca case a while ago were me daughters fella and a mate i hunt with getting caught on a public footpath at the side of lord derbys.now these had the dogs on the lead with lamps when the police turned up and could of easily hid and the police none the wiser,but they stayed thinking nothing would happen.they ended up in the cells for 18hrs dogs confiscated for 9mths but won the case as there was insufficient evidence to any further action. Quote Link to post
Matt3699 142 Posted November 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 i put a thread up about an rspca case a while ago were me daughters fella and a mate i hunt with getting caught on a public footpath at the side of lord derbys.now these had the dogs on the lead with lamps when the police turned up and could of easily hid and the police none the wiser,but they stayed thinking nothing would happen.they ended up in the cells for 18hrs dogs confiscated for 9mths but won the case as there was insufficient evidence to any further action. Shit. I thought it would be a lot less hot than this.The place I regularly walk is actually only a small area. I have bumped into the owner now and again and know he doesn't mind people walking it, day or night. But I will get it confirmed with him in case of a situation like the above ^ It's driving me crazy not being able to get out with the dog legally. I was out of the UK for 8 years and permission in Spain and Ireland is never a problem. If there are any friendly and generous people out there ( ) with some permission that fancy helping out a lone hunter shoot me a pm. I drive and will travel pretty much anywhere in the country for a day or night of hunting. It's driving me crazy not getting out!! 1 Quote Link to post
rob190364 2,594 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 i put a thread up about an rspca case a while ago were me daughters fella and a mate i hunt with getting caught on a public footpath at the side of lord derbys.now these had the dogs on the lead with lamps when the police turned up and could of easily hid and the police none the wiser,but they stayed thinking nothing would happen.they ended up in the cells for 18hrs dogs confiscated for 9mths but won the case as there was insufficient evidence to any further action. Shit. I thought it would be a lot less hot than this.The place I regularly walk is actually only a small area. I have bumped into the owner now and again and know he doesn't mind people walking it, day or night. But I will get it confirmed with him in case of a situation like the above ^ It's driving me crazy not being able to get out with the dog legally. I was out of the UK for 8 years and permission in Spain and Ireland is never a problem. If there are any friendly and generous people out there ( ) with some permission that fancy helping out a lone hunter shoot me a pm. I drive and will travel pretty much anywhere in the country for a day or night of hunting. It's driving me crazy not getting out!! get off the internet and go and do some door knocking! Simple as that. Quote Link to post
Matt3699 142 Posted November 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 i put a thread up about an rspca case a while ago were me daughters fella and a mate i hunt with getting caught on a public footpath at the side of lord derbys.now these had the dogs on the lead with lamps when the police turned up and could of easily hid and the police none the wiser,but they stayed thinking nothing would happen.they ended up in the cells for 18hrs dogs confiscated for 9mths but won the case as there was insufficient evidence to any further action. Shit. I thought it would be a lot less hot than this.The place I regularly walk is actually only a small area. I have bumped into the owner now and again and know he doesn't mind people walking it, day or night. But I will get it confirmed with him in case of a situation like the above ^ It's driving me crazy not being able to get out with the dog legally. I was out of the UK for 8 years and permission in Spain and Ireland is never a problem. If there are any friendly and generous people out there ( ) with some permission that fancy helping out a lone hunter shoot me a pm. I drive and will travel pretty much anywhere in the country for a day or night of hunting. It's driving me crazy not getting out!! get off the internet and go and do some door knocking! Simple as that. I have done plenty mate. It's all tied up around my area. I keep getting knocked back. I still have a few options open. I'm actually knocking on some doors today after work. I'm not going to give up. Quote Link to post
rob190364 2,594 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 i put a thread up about an rspca case a while ago were me daughters fella and a mate i hunt with getting caught on a public footpath at the side of lord derbys.now these had the dogs on the lead with lamps when the police turned up and could of easily hid and the police none the wiser,but they stayed thinking nothing would happen.they ended up in the cells for 18hrs dogs confiscated for 9mths but won the case as there was insufficient evidence to any further action. Shit. I thought it would be a lot less hot than this.The place I regularly walk is actually only a small area. I have bumped into the owner now and again and know he doesn't mind people walking it, day or night. But I will get it confirmed with him in case of a situation like the above ^ It's driving me crazy not being able to get out with the dog legally. I was out of the UK for 8 years and permission in Spain and Ireland is never a problem. If there are any friendly and generous people out there ( ) with some permission that fancy helping out a lone hunter shoot me a pm. I drive and will travel pretty much anywhere in the country for a day or night of hunting. It's driving me crazy not getting out!! get off the internet and go and do some door knocking! Simple as that. I have done plenty mate. It's all tied up around my area. I keep getting knocked back. I still have a few options open. I'm actually knocking on some doors today after work. I'm not going to give up. Quote Link to post
pip1968 2,490 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 i put a thread up about an rspca case a while ago were me daughters fella and a mate i hunt with getting caught on a public footpath at the side of lord derbys.now these had the dogs on the lead with lamps when the police turned up and could of easily hid and the police none the wiser,but they stayed thinking nothing would happen.they ended up in the cells for 18hrs dogs confiscated for 9mths but won the case as there was insufficient evidence to any further action. Shit. I thought it would be a lot less hot than this.The place I regularly walk is actually only a small area. I have bumped into the owner now and again and know he doesn't mind people walking it, day or night. But I will get it confirmed with him in case of a situation like the above ^ It's driving me crazy not being able to get out with the dog legally. I was out of the UK for 8 years and permission in Spain and Ireland is never a problem. If there are any friendly and generous people out there ( ) with some permission that fancy helping out a lone hunter shoot me a pm. I drive and will travel pretty much anywhere in the country for a day or night of hunting. It's driving me crazy not getting out!! were they where caught the gamekeepers are nobs the same lads went further up the lancs the other day in the day time just exerciseing the lurchers.they spotted a landrover comeing towards them the keeper asked what use doin to which they replied walking the dogs,keeper starts getting all lardy saying dont want your type round here bla bla so the lads said if we had any other dogs besides lurchers you would have drove past ,his reply yes Quote Link to post
lapin2008 1,587 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 i put a thread up about an rspca case a while ago were me daughters fella and a mate i hunt with getting caught on a public footpath at the side of lord derbys.now these had the dogs on the lead with lamps when the police turned up and could of easily hid and the police none the wiser,but they stayed thinking nothing would happen.they ended up in the cells for 18hrs dogs confiscated for 9mths but won the case as there was insufficient evidence to any further action. Shit. I thought it would be a lot less hot than this.The place I regularly walk is actually only a small area. I have bumped into the owner now and again and know he doesn't mind people walking it, day or night. But I will get it confirmed with him in case of a situation like the above ^ It's driving me crazy not being able to get out with the dog legally. I was out of the UK for 8 years and permission in Spain and Ireland is never a problem. If there are any friendly and generous people out there ( ) with some permission that fancy helping out a lone hunter shoot me a pm. I drive and will travel pretty much anywhere in the country for a day or night of hunting. It's driving me crazy not getting out!! It depends on the land/where in the country it is and how often the landowners get any trouble re poaching. I remember when pip posted what happened and it sounded like a horrendous experience for the lads that went through it but lots will turn a blind eye as long as they are not getting hammered all the time. If you just use a smaller torch and keep it to a minimum in places where they dont often see any trouble, I dont see many getting too worried about the odd rabbit here and there Quote Link to post
Giro 2,648 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 One thing to bare in mind... IF people have incountered poachers and trouble previously, you may recieve the backlash when inocently walking your dogs.. Tread carefully.. 1 Quote Link to post
pip1968 2,490 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 One thing to bare in mind... IF people have incountered poachers and trouble previously, you may recieve the backlash when inocently walking your dogs.. Tread carefully.. its always been the same in this area when we were about 14 or 15 we got caught coming of the same land in the daytime we had 3 rabbits and a pheasant we seen the keeper flying down the lancs we ditched the game sharpish and stood on the east lancs road.norman and big keith the head keeper grab me mates lucher by the lead and starts swinging it around te dogs terrified as was we he then in front of us all and the traffic puts a shotgun to the dogs head whilst screaming at us to stay away or he would shoot any dogs with us the next time Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 One thing to bare in mind... IF people have incountered poachers and trouble previously, you may recieve the backlash when inocently walking your dogs.. Tread carefully.. its always been the same in this area when we were about 14 or 15 we got caught coming of the same land in the daytime we had 3 rabbits and a pheasant we seen the keeper flying down the lancs we ditched the game sharpish and stood on the east lancs road.norman and big keith the head keeper grab me mates lucher by the lead and starts swinging it around te dogs terrified as was we he then in front of us all and the traffic puts a shotgun to the dogs head whilst screaming at us to stay away or he would shoot any dogs with us the next time swinging the dog by the lead report the c**t for animal cruelty hed have the gun up his arse if he pointed it at me or my dog 2 Quote Link to post
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