Scallywag 78 Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 I'm wondering if it's possible to stock train an adult dog or is this one of the things that has to be done when they're young? Any suggestions for getting them right with sheep? Thanks Quote Link to post
thurso jack 3 Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 should have been done as a pup, but you could try walking it through a park on a lead with sheep and constantly correcting it if it even looks there way, do this a lot then try a slighlty longer leash and so on until you feel he knows they are not on the menu. Quote Link to post
tote 856 Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Stock training should be done when the dog is still young,but for differing reasons this is not always the case and we come across older dogs that have never been introduced to stock Thurso jack offers some sound advice,although I've never had the need to use one I've heard the electric collar is very usefull when introducing the dog to sheep.I would follow Thurso jacks advice to start with,but eventually you are going to have to let it off the lead,this is where the electric collar comes into it's own,if the dog does show an unhealthy interest in the sheep a quick zapp should be an ample deterrent. After that most dogs should soon learn that sheep are forbidden. Just this morning I was out with my pup Amy [5 1/2 months] this was the second time that she had seen these sheep. Quote Link to post
Scallywag 78 Posted June 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Fantastic pic, wish I could post one like it! Thanks Thurso jack, by doing what you've suggested for a while now I've got them to the point where they'll walk past sheep and not look if they're on the lead or under VERY close supervision, but I KNOW that if they were to run ahead they'd be in there like a shot so like tote says this is the next thing to tackle. Anyone got experience of using these collars? I know some people think they're cruel, but not as cruel as getting shot by a farmer as far as I can see. But I've heard you have to get the timing just right..... Are there any trainers who'll take you through it or do it for you? Or is there anything less drastic? Sorry, lots of questions...... Quote Link to post
elma-fudd 0 Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Stock training should be done when the dog is still young,but for differing reasonsthis is not always the case and we come across older dogs that have never been introduced to stock Thurso jack offers some sound advice,although I've never had the need to use one I've heard the electric collar is very usefull when introducing the dog to sheep.I would follow Thurso jacks advice to start with,but eventually you are going to have to let it off the lead,this is where the electric collar comes into it's own,if the dog does show an unhealthy interest in the sheep a quick zapp should be an ample deterrent. After that most dogs should soon learn that sheep are forbidden. Just this morning I was out with my pup Amy [5 1/2 months] this was the second time that she had seen these sheep. i used a remote collar as a last resort did not want to use one but f**k me it worked sorted the dog right out but as i said its a last resort Quote Link to post
thurso jack 3 Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 also i read from your post your trying to do this with more than one dog, when breaking them in only take one dog at a time as they will egg each other on. Quote Link to post
ferret15 0 Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 if your struggling with distance obediance i would cosider the collar make sure the you give the voice command first if the dog dosnt respond them give the command again and then zap the dog it will learn very quickly that if it responds to the voice first it wont get zaped Quote Link to post
Scallywag 78 Posted June 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 Thanks for the advice everyone. It's crawling with sheep round here and we'll all be more relaxed when I get this sorted out Quote Link to post
Simoman 110 Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 I'd follow Thurso's advice, a collar is a usefull tool but unless you are a good trainer with excellent TIMING you could make the problem worse.............. Quote Link to post
pointer28 1 Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 I have an electric collar and the only thing I use it for is stockbreaking. I don't like them very much but if it's a choice between an electric collar and a dog getting shot or someone's stock being damaged, then I'll choose the collar every time. Quote Link to post
elma-fudd 0 Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 oh forgot to mention about these collars there great for partys gets everybody breakdancing. Quote Link to post
ferret15 0 Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 oh forgot to mention about these collars there great for partys gets everybody breakdancing. my mates got a fence one (insted of wodden fence it creates a boundry that if crossed shocks the dog ) last party we had there we got people taking turns to see who could stay out side the boundry the longest Quote Link to post
elma-fudd 0 Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 oh forgot to mention about these collars there great for partys gets everybody breakdancing. my mates got a fence one (insted of wodden fence it creates a boundry that if crossed shocks the dog ) last party we had there we got people taking turns to see who could stay out side the boundry the longest lmao Quote Link to post
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