pmatty77 26 Posted October 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 I think the reason is valid, from this discussion i would say that if it is covered not loaded etc i have a pretty good argument,not covered then i still have a good reason but am not sticking to the "cover" part of the law,so could be in trouble,some sites say it has too be covered others dont mention it.I am pretty sure it does need to be. What if the road is unadopted??......i think we will leave that for another topic.... Quote Link to post
AirgunGuy 362 Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 (edited) Why don't you call the cops? They can put you through to the firearms department. It think you should get it from the horses mouth Edited October 26, 2012 by AirgunGuy 1 Quote Link to post
pmatty77 26 Posted October 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 I may get my gun and get me gear on and go and give them a knock...i will probably get an answer one way or another Quote Link to post
storme37 9 Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 how would this apply if he had a shotgun instead of an air gun? Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted October 27, 2012 Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 how would this apply if he had a shotgun instead of an air gun? Again back in the 's early 90's it was acceptable to wander around rural town and villages with one broken over your arm. It wasn't an uncommon sight at all. Then the media began a hate campain because the Hungerford etc stories sold and made them huge amounts of money, thats when we started covering up our sport and our sports equipment. The media and anti's effectively drove us underground so to speak. Although I'm not certain I believe it would be the same rules/common sense with any firearm. As mentioned earlier there is no law requiring the Air Gun to be covered, its just common sense in this day and age. Tony Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted October 27, 2012 Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 how would this apply if he had a shotgun instead of an air gun? Again back in the 's early 90's it was acceptable to wander around rural town and villages with one broken over your arm. It wasn't an uncommon sight at all. Then the media began a hate campain because the Hungerford etc stories sold and made them huge amounts of money, thats when we started covering up our sport and our sports equipment. The media and anti's effectively drove us underground so to speak. Although I'm not certain I believe it would be the same rules/common sense with any firearm. As mentioned earlier there is no law requiring the Air Gun to be covered, its just common sense in this day and age. Tony correct the same law applies to all weapons. its still acceptable here to walk around with a shotgun or whatever (at the minute) but i believe with the inability of the younsters in the village to be able to afford housing this will change soon enough. just the other day i was out with the shotgun and lurchers, a young cocker spaniel came out of nowhere, followed shortly by a middle aged couple running and shouting like lunatics, reminded me of the youtube clip of that dog running them deer. they took one look at me and the gun and started with the its illegal to do this and that. a quick reminder that they were on private land with no authority to be there and a dog not under control and they went away. turns out its the couple that had brought one of the local pubs, closed it down and were turning it into holiday home. Quote Link to post
Skot Ruthless Teale 1,701 Posted October 27, 2012 Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 my house is just around the corner from my permissions first field. but my neighbours are tossers so if im going out i stick it in the bag.. although one night i went lamping and took it with out the bag,, i felt quite weird and scrared in a way thinking.. friggin hell if somebody sees me walking up the street with a gun im guna get f**ked! even though it was about 3am lol.. better safe than sorry tho these days only takes one retard or scared woman or animal rights activist to think.. oh they got a gun im going to ring police.. i would love to be able to walk around the streets blowing crows off peoples chimneys theres about 200 every day on my way to work.. but im sure even with a police escort making sure every shot i took was safe and telling the public not to worry its still not going to happen .. maybe back in the olden days lol Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 only takes one retard or animal rights activist to think.. oh they got a gun im going to ring police.. Erm aint they one in the same? maybe back in the olden days lol Feck off Skott...... :tongue: Not the 'Olden Days' More like the "Golden Days" where "Common Sense" instead of MIPF (Media Induced Paranoia and Fear) ruled us Hopefully one day it will return! Tony 2 Quote Link to post
HW 96.5 11 Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 One thing to consider. At least around here is we have a poaching problem. Deer, Hares, sheep pheasants etc,so if you are spotted even at 3 Am suspicions can be aroused so easily. Years ago I wandered far and wide with all manner of arms quite freely on my permissions. As there were walkers and equestrian folk it was fun to see their reactions. Shotgun, air rifle, rimmy all generally well recieved bow or crossbow eeek they almost visibly wet themselves. Those were great days for sure. Steve Quote Link to post
jack2o 45 Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 anyone ever been done for the armed tresspass thing.does it sound more serious than it is,and what sort of time would you get if you had a criminal record.(not planning on doing it by the way just curious) Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 Very serious mandatory minimum of five years! Quote Link to post
garethf 1 Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 Theres always the option of just hiding your gun bag in the hedge as you enter the next field and just collect it on your way back to your motor Quote Link to post
ghillies 209 Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 (edited) Stick it in the case whilst on the road as you don't want armed response coming id just put it in a gun slip to make sure, mate think that makes it legal Good advice there guy's However there is no LAW that requires you to have it covered! Its True Back in the 's I'd walk around with my gun over my arm Broken like a Shotty and no one gave a hoot! But sadley in this day and age; it's a matter of common sense to cover it up Tony the gun has to show its not loaded, used to apply to shotguns too, but both had to be open, as in the barrel half broke and resting on its stop and the shotgun open with no shells in it. alas today the forse seems to be running after the wet nursed first and after a very long winded tu doo will eventualy resort to the law lol!! sock it...taint worth the greif. i'll re word to save after effects... airgun barrel had to be cracked open but NOT cocked and open..so you could see it wasnt loaded. Edited October 30, 2012 by ghillies Quote Link to post
pmatty77 26 Posted October 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Dont know if this is right or wrong but its still a bit scary The Penalties for breaking current UK firearms laws with Airguns are as follows:- Carrying a loaded Air-weapon in a public place 6 months imprisonment and / or £5,000 fine. Trespassing with an air weapon 3 months imprisonment and / or £2,500 fine. Trespassing on private land with an air weapon 3 months imprisonment and / or £2,500 fine. Possessing or using an air weapon if sentenced to 3 months or more in custody 3 months imprisonment and / or £2,500 fine. In addition if original sentence up to 3 years 5 year ban on use of firearms. Or if for 3 years or more Life ban on use of firearms. Killing or injuring any bird or protected animal unless authorised £5,000 fine. Firing an air weapon within 15m / 50ft of a public highway £1,000 fine. Selling or hiring air weapon or ammunition to person under 17 6 months imprisonment and / or £5,000 fine. Making a gift of air weapon or ammunition to person under 14 £1,000 fine. Having air weapon or ammunition with intent to damage property 10 years imprisonment. Having air weapon with intent to endanger life Life imprisonment and / or appropriate fine. Using air weapon to resist or prevent arrest Life imprisonment and / or appropriate fine. Threatening others with an air weapon (even if unloaded) to cause them to fear unlawful violence 10 years imprisonment and / or appropriate fine. Not forgetting the chance of being shot and killed by the police should you not obey instructions when challenged by them, they cannot tell if you have just an airgun or a more lethal firearm so will treat all arms as lethal and respond accordingly. In other words will SHOOT you Quote Link to post
pmatty77 26 Posted October 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Stick it in the case whilst on the road as you don't want armed response coming id just put it in a gun slip to make sure, mate think that makes it legal Good advice there guy's However there is no LAW that requires you to have it covered! Its True Back in the 's I'd walk around with my gun over my arm Broken like a Shotty and no one gave a hoot! But sadley in this day and age; it's a matter of common sense to cover it up Tony Good shout on that one i do believe its not law to have it covered but maybe good practice Quote Link to post
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