HW 96.5 11 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Monday was a very calm day so I took the opportunity to do a little testing with the HW95. The set up was two targets placed at 25 and 50 Yds. The idea was to shoot prone to test 4 different pellets. Pellets used were AA fields, H+N FTT, Acupells and RWS superdomes. The method was to shoot 5 pellets at 25 Yds and then 5 at 50 Yds giving ten shots of each pellet. All the pellets were out of the tin un washed or weighed. The other variable would of course be my ability to stay consistent. The set up The groups @ 25 yds AA Fields 18mm First shot went high and was discounted so re zeroed a little so group size includes this H+N FTT 9mm much better all shots went through 2 connected holes. recoil seems less than AA's Accupells 35mm these do not like this barrel but do well in the AA s410. I reshot this group to get a 39mm group just to see if my concentration was at fault. seen lower right in pic. RWS superdomes 14mm group The AA fields and the FTT's are close on correction as described above. The groups at 50 Yds AA fields 32mm a 20mm group spoiled by one H+N FTT 35mm two 11mm groups spaced Accupell's 44mm 18mm group spoiled by one. pretty close to 25yd group size Superdomes 38mm 1st shot a whole mil dot lower so reshot the 5 discounting the 1st These sound very draggy, hissing through the air. Good at shorter ranges and crush resistent. It can be seen in the 50 yard pic. this was not my best day for long range springer shooting despite having near perfect conditions. My groups are sometimes a bit less spread. There was some group stringing going on due to my ability on the day to manage the recoil. Never the less I was fairly pleased to be getting some very tight pairs and three's so there is plenty of fun to be had improving. I had a wander about the perm. just for a look see and returned refreshed. I sat for a while to watch a Sparrowhawk hunting the hedges only to have it fly within feet of me and turn so sharply that I heard it's wings swoosh. It then grabbed a blackbird and flew to a distant post to enjoy a meal. I always feel good when I witness the daily lives of our amazing variety of wildlife at close quaters. All too often this makes up for poor days sport. In fine spirit I decided to shoot a few more 50 yard groups with Ftt's this was the first one 24mm for 5 shots my best yet here is the pic. My shooting had taken another step with a personal best for this gun I abandoned further testing and went home Very happy. Steve Quote Link to post
ecp2012 14 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Seems like to had a brilliant day - enjoyed the ending, going home very happy!! By the way, love the look of your rig ATB Quote Link to post
Skot Ruthless Teale 1,701 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 that last group was very good for a springer at 50 yards well shot mate. gun looks great aswell Quote Link to post
HW 96.5 11 Posted October 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Thaks lads it turns out the average size of 50 yd groups was less than 1 1/2" not including the last. so pretty chuffed. Now just need to practice closing those gaps. Steve Quote Link to post
Skot Ruthless Teale 1,701 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 is the rifle tuned or just standard mate? aye practice practice practice.. think im getting rusty of late best get back on the hunt for small groupings that i like to shoot lol. dont taste as nice as rabbit tho lol Quote Link to post
HW 96.5 11 Posted October 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Spot on Scot The gun was tuned by me. I am a born tinkerer. After seeing a pellet staying on top of Si's scope on firing I had to try and achieve it. It took lots of strip down to get it. I still think there is room for improvement. But every time I change something I have to shoot chrono and repeat to verify the results. I found that 11 ft lbs is the sweet spot 11.2 is getting much a harsher firing cycle. I will get there in the end then I can sit back and enjoy the work I put in. Practice on paper is the best way of having the confidence to make the live shot count, plus you have a copy of your aility and gun tune over time. that turned into a bit of a waffle Steve 1 Quote Link to post
Elliott 436 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Nice read and lovely looking HW95 in a 98 stock Quote Link to post
HW 96.5 11 Posted October 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Cheers Elliot It would be fun to compare your B&C 97 to my self tuned hybrid you are only an hour away.. Steve Quote Link to post
Skot Ruthless Teale 1,701 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 think elliots is a 77 :laugh: lol my old 97 syn .177 was sweet as a nut after about 3000 pelllets straight from factory at 11.1ft lbs should have kept it! lol getting another .177 97k and going to put my wooden thumbhole stock on my .22 on it and then put the sporter stock on the .22 97 i have now. then il be sorted did you seee my thread ''first outing in a while hw95k'' a few days ago.. theres a 28 yard grouping on there that i was really happy with . take a look if you get chance Quote Link to post
HW 96.5 11 Posted October 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 ocks that's the 2nd time I have got a gun wrong on this forum I would like a 95 in .20 then I could mix and match. Plus have a play with the ballistics and tuning My dream tinkering gun would be a 90 with a full compliment of barrels. Then I could compare cals. and make direct comparisons without stripping it down. Steve Quote Link to post
Elliott 436 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Cheers Elliot It would be fun to compare your B&C 97 to my self tuned hybrid you are only an hour away.. Steve Yeah would be interesting, where do you live Steve it doesn't show on my mobile version of THL? ATB Quote Link to post
Elliott 436 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 ocks that's the 2nd time I have got a gun wrong on this forum I would like a 95 in .20 then I could mix and match. Plus have a play with the ballistics and tuning My dream tinkering gun would be a 90 with a full compliment of barrels. Then I could compare cals. and make direct comparisons without stripping it down. Steve Scott's quite right, its a 1985 HW77K I've been thinking of a 95 or 98 in .20 recently Quote Link to post
Elliott 436 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 ocks that's the 2nd time I have got a gun wrong on this forum I would like a 95 in .20 then I could mix and match. Plus have a play with the ballistics and tuning My dream tinkering gun would be a 90 with a full compliment of barrels. Then I could compare cals. and make direct comparisons without stripping it down. Steve Scott's quite right, its a 1985 HW77K I've been thinking of a 95 or 98 in .20 recently Quote Link to post
Skot Ruthless Teale 1,701 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Im picking up a new hw97k in .177 satdy or monday then i wont be buying another gun untill next year. but after that my next one might be a .20 never tried one.. is there a decent range of pellets in .20?? Quote Link to post
Elliott 436 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Im picking up a new hw97k in .177 satdy or monday then i wont be buying another gun untill next year. but after that my next one might be a .20 never tried one.. is there a decent range of pellets in .20?? I think there's plenty of choice now, especially with mail order. Can't see me dropping to .177 but .20 is tempting Quote Link to post
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