jamie g 17 Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 has anyone else on here got a jack russel x beagle if so i would just like to no what you think of them Quote Link to post
jamie g 17 Posted June 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 mines a great little dog and got a keen noise on him great little dog for bushing when we go ferreting Quote Link to post
logman 0 Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 I have a Springer/Bedlington cross bitch whos six years old and great for bushing. I have given her a cutsie poo name too, i reckon shes a BEDSPRING. Ive been thinking about putting a freinds terrier over her for my next generation of bushing dogs. But im unsure as to how many working homes i could find find as i only want to keep a couple of the pups. Quote Link to post
tortoise 0 Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Around here,there are a few....made by puppymiller crooks to peddle to moronic "pet-people" who appear to think(THINK???they can think???) that sticking a stupid cutise-poo lying label(jackaby) on a MUTT/MONGREL makes it a "new/improved" BREED! Ah here .Kate that's very libelous stuff there, the jack x beagle out out of working stock on both sides is a busy careful little dog that doesn't roam as far beyond the horn as purebreds might and is perky and inquisite, not outright bowling as a purebred. In these parts permission to hunt is getting limited and a dog that is easier to call off and works closer to hand is more and more use. The Teagle, jack to beagle for rabbits generally and fell/ irish terrier to beagle for fox is a good nosed diligent careful dog less 'scatty' than pure bred beagles and a lot slower! Do not dismiss them, when your hunting territory is shrinking, they are handy and useful, hard coated hard crosses make good mink dogs. A nasty item when your hens are getting it in the neck. Here in Ireland the enthuasiasm for pb beagles is waning as the limits of huntable land shrink and our diligent beagles only understand to follow as long as the trail holds. To train a pb beagle to hold and return at the bounds of non-kosher land takes some time, Teagles accept this easier and with terrier enthuasiasm want to see what master has over here. Beagles take a lot more training to accept your word that they must drop a hot trail and come on now. Most new beagle owners balk at the concept that to have a sound recallable and driving hunt beagle he/she must obey recall perfectly as it is so bloodly hard to do! But is do-able! With normal training methods, but a lot of practise and reward. Revolting talk, puppy millers, new improved breeds... Without evolution our dog friends become obsolete, why do the kennel clubs claim I shall not mate a purebred bitch of my own breed except to a dog of the same breed... what shit is that? breeds evolve develop or fail.... tortoise Quote Link to post
billybunter 72 Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 a friend of mine has a jackxbeagle in co mayo a belting little dog good bushing ratting ferriting dog and very obidient with a superb nose exerlent with other dogs and children Quote Link to post
bucknut 1 Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 mines a great little dog and got a keen noise on him great little dog for bushing when we go ferreting mines a great little dog and got a keen noise on him great little dog for bushing when we go ferreting (sorry chaps/chapess's) just getting the hang of this! anyway question for james g have you any pic's of you jackx? Quote Link to post
Guest oldskool Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 i knew of one jack/beagle that worked well in cover... but also went to ground alot, when the rest of the pack came back it was a day spent lookin for the bugger lol... Quote Link to post
shepp 2,285 Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Around here,there are a few....made by puppymiller crooks to peddle to moronic "pet-people" who appear to think(THINK???they can think???) that sticking a stupid cutise-poo lying label(jackaby) on a MUTT/MONGREL makes it a "new/improved" BREED! Ah here .Kate that's very libelous stuff there, the jack x beagle out out of working stock on both sides is a busy careful little dog that doesn't roam as far beyond the horn as purebreds might and is perky and inquisite, not outright bowling as a purebred. In these parts permission to hunt is getting limited and a dog that is easier to call off and works closer to hand is more and more use. The Teagle, jack to beagle for rabbits generally and fell/ irish terrier to beagle for fox is a good nosed diligent careful dog less 'scatty' than pure bred beagles and a lot slower! Do not dismiss them, when your hunting territory is shrinking, they are handy and useful, hard coated hard crosses make good mink dogs. A nasty item when your hens are getting it in the neck. Here in Ireland the enthuasiasm for pb beagles is waning as the limits of huntable land shrink and our diligent beagles only understand to follow as long as the trail holds. To train a pb beagle to hold and return at the bounds of non-kosher land takes some time, Teagles accept this easier and with terrier enthuasiasm want to see what master has over here. Beagles take a lot more training to accept your word that they must drop a hot trail and come on now. Most new beagle owners balk at the concept that to have a sound recallable and driving hunt beagle he/she must obey recall perfectly as it is so bloodly hard to do! But is do-able! With normal training methods, but a lot of practise and reward. Revolting talk, puppy millers, new improved breeds... Without evolution our dog friends become obsolete, why do the kennel clubs claim I shall not mate a purebred bitch of my own breed except to a dog of the same breed... what shit is that? breeds evolve develop or fail.... tortoise Dearie,you misunderstood....didn't say they CAN'T be useful,said they AREN'T used! The current fad for "designer-dawgs" is just LIES! Put out by CROOKS who breed the lowest quality(cuz nobody in their right mind would let em have GOOD stuff!),utterly useless CRAP to equally ugly useless CRAP merely to capitalize on the morons who'd fall for ANY bullshi* they heard. Making MUTTS is NOT how breeds were/are developed. "Mutts are healthier"=LIE! "Mutts are smarter"=LIE!! "Labradoodles,etc. don't shed"=BIG LIE!!!! I can't understand what the average boob-in-the-street uses instead of THINKING! If you DON'T want a poodle & you DON'T want a lab....WHY ON EARTH do you *imagine* that a combination of the two will be perfect???? Would you buy a FORD-OLET???? DUH? I think if your using the word mutts to describe crossbreeds then your on the wrong website I'd take a crossbreed over any kennel club shite any day of the week, the dogs only as good as the job it does and many crosses do it better! Quote Link to post
Big bald beautiful 1,231 Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Arnt they just plummers Quote Link to post
jake 1 Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Arnt they just plummers Now you'v stired it. You BIG BAD B--TARD. Quote Link to post
bigdan 11 Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 I have a Springer/Bedlington cross bitch whos six years old and great for bushing. I have given her a cutsie poo name too, i reckon shes a BEDSPRING.Ive been thinking about putting a freinds terrier over her for my next generation of bushing dogs. But im unsure as to how many working homes i could find find as i only want to keep a couple of the pups. ive got a bedspring beauty of a dog Quote Link to post
tortoise 0 Posted June 24, 2007 Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 Around here,there are a few....made by puppymiller crooks to peddle to moronic "pet-people" who appear to think(THINK???they can think???) that sticking a stupid cutise-poo lying label(jackaby) on a MUTT/MONGREL makes it a "new/improved" BREED! Ah here .Kate that's very libelous stuff there, the jack x beagle out out of working stock on both sides is a busy careful little dog that doesn't roam as far beyond the horn as purebreds might and is perky and inquisite, not outright bowling as a purebred. In these parts permission to hunt is getting limited and a dog that is easier to call off and works closer to hand is more and more use. The Teagle, jack to beagle for rabbits generally and fell/ irish terrier to beagle for fox is a good nosed diligent careful dog less 'scatty' than pure bred beagles and a lot slower! Do not dismiss them, when your hunting territory is shrinking, they are handy and useful, hard coated hard crosses make good mink dogs. A nasty item when your hens are getting it in the neck. Here in Ireland the enthuasiasm for pb beagles is waning as the limits of huntable land shrink and our diligent beagles only understand to follow as long as the trail holds. To train a pb beagle to hold and return at the bounds of non-kosher land takes some time, Teagles accept this easier and with terrier enthuasiasm want to see what master has over here. Beagles take a lot more training to accept your word that they must drop a hot trail and come on now. Most new beagle owners balk at the concept that to have a sound recallable and driving hunt beagle he/she must obey recall perfectly as it is so bloodly hard to do! But is do-able! With normal training methods, but a lot of practise and reward. Revolting talk, puppy millers, new improved breeds... Without evolution our dog friends become obsolete, why do the kennel clubs claim I shall not mate a purebred bitch of my own breed except to a dog of the same breed... what shit is that? breeds evolve develop or fail.... tortoise Dearie,you misunderstood....didn't say they CAN'T be useful,said they AREN'T used! The current fad for "designer-dawgs" is just LIES! Put out by CROOKS who breed the lowest quality(cuz nobody in their right mind would let em have GOOD stuff!),utterly useless CRAP to equally ugly useless CRAP merely to capitalize on the morons who'd fall for ANY bullshi* they heard. Making MUTTS is NOT how breeds were/are developed. "Mutts are healthier"=LIE! "Mutts are smarter"=LIE!! "Labradoodles,etc. don't shed"=BIG LIE!!!! I can't understand what the average boob-in-the-street uses instead of THINKING! If you DON'T want a poodle & you DON'T want a lab....WHY ON EARTH do you *imagine* that a combination of the two will be perfect???? Would you buy a FORD-OLET???? DUH? Sorry Kate You got it in the neck from my spleen! breeds have evolved over time by a little bit of this and a little bit of that. The Teagle is move into old and new territory, jacks were always bred to hounds occasionally to bring up nose, voice and lovely colours and markings. But the old timer always says you can make a good terrier from a hound but not a good hound from a terrier. Our teagles are very useful and much beloved and other litter mates not required by us, cos we breed to get a pup for us and if its a big litter it is hassle, cos you need the right folks by them, some went to pet homes only, who wanted beagles but where very suburban and i'd couldn't see pb beagles thriving there, the Teagles have done well, delighting their owners with hound like characteristics but not the essential houndiness, that makes lots of patience, microchipping, ear tatooing and sturdy legs and lungs a must! Teagles were an accident for us but have proved a sucess. sorry for bashing you a friend of mine has a jackxbeagle in co mayo a belting little doggood bushing ratting ferriting dog and very obidient with a superb nose exerlent with other dogs and children Hey Ho Billy Did you see Bubbles, a largish teagle, very like a small cocker in appearance and size, Bubbles is keen for mink. We have a wee lass, Smeagol, about 10" who is good for bunnies and rats. Both are nice soft dogs and obedient too. need to talk soon, ring me Around here,there are a few....made by puppymiller crooks to peddle to moronic "pet-people" who appear to think(THINK???they can think???) that sticking a stupid cutise-poo lying label(jackaby) on a MUTT/MONGREL makes it a "new/improved" BREED! Ah here .Kate that's very libelous stuff there, the jack x beagle out out of working stock on both sides is a busy careful little dog that doesn't roam as far beyond the horn as purebreds might and is perky and inquisite, not outright bowling as a purebred. In these parts permission to hunt is getting limited and a dog that is easier to call off and works closer to hand is more and more use. The Teagle, jack to beagle for rabbits generally and fell/ irish terrier to beagle for fox is a good nosed diligent careful dog less 'scatty' than pure bred beagles and a lot slower! Do not dismiss them, when your hunting territory is shrinking, they are handy and useful, hard coated hard crosses make good mink dogs. A nasty item when your hens are getting it in the neck. Here in Ireland the enthuasiasm for pb beagles is waning as the limits of huntable land shrink and our diligent beagles only understand to follow as long as the trail holds. To train a pb beagle to hold and return at the bounds of non-kosher land takes some time, Teagles accept this easier and with terrier enthuasiasm want to see what master has over here. Beagles take a lot more training to accept your word that they must drop a hot trail and come on now. Most new beagle owners balk at the concept that to have a sound recallable and driving hunt beagle he/she must obey recall perfectly as it is so bloodly hard to do! But is do-able! With normal training methods, but a lot of practise and reward. Revolting talk, puppy millers, new improved breeds... Without evolution our dog friends become obsolete, why do the kennel clubs claim I shall not mate a purebred bitch of my own breed except to a dog of the same breed... what shit is that? breeds evolve develop or fail.... tortoise Dearie,you misunderstood....didn't say they CAN'T be useful,said they AREN'T used! The current fad for "designer-dawgs" is just LIES! Put out by CROOKS who breed the lowest quality(cuz nobody in their right mind would let em have GOOD stuff!),utterly useless CRAP to equally ugly useless CRAP merely to capitalize on the morons who'd fall for ANY bullshi* they heard. Making MUTTS is NOT how breeds were/are developed. "Mutts are healthier"=LIE! "Mutts are smarter"=LIE!! "Labradoodles,etc. don't shed"=BIG LIE!!!! I can't understand what the average boob-in-the-street uses instead of THINKING! If you DON'T want a poodle & you DON'T want a lab....WHY ON EARTH do you *imagine* that a combination of the two will be perfect???? Would you buy a FORD-OLET???? DUH? I think if your using the word mutts to describe crossbreeds then your on the wrong website I'd take a crossbreed over any kennel club shite any day of the week, the dogs only as good as the job it does and many crosses do it better! dog owners haveoften stepped out to another breed over time immemorial to bring in hopefully desired characteristics, its how breeds evolve into other breeds, withount ferocious crossbreeding around 1900's the wolfhond would be extinct! Original wolfhonunds were 48" at shoulder, when they were nearly extinct thye were crossbred with other giant breeds who were geneticaly close to recreate the type, but the modern Wolfhound is tiny compared to Setanta and the giants of Fionn Mc Chuaill etc, but they continue thanks to crossbreeding. Crossbreeding can be very bad when another beed with genetic faults is interbred bringing those faults into another breed. But generaly yes crossbreeding is very healthy, Mutts are generally more robusy, healthier, long living etc, deal with an extremely interbred small gene pool rare breed and you know all about it. See my avatar pic! They are bloody buggers to breed and are generally healthy but crossbreeds of that breed are very robust, fertile, early maturing, easy to keep. Quote Link to post
COMPO 54 Posted June 24, 2007 Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 lots of people use hound cross terriers, i have heard lots of good stuff about these little bushing hounds,my uncle knows a bloke in yorkshire that has several JRT X Beagles he said they are ugly but useful dogs and very keen on foxes i myself have a border x teckel (teckel being a working bred daschund) and she is very very dedicated when in bramble and undergrowth and wont leave until all rabbits are either pushed out or she has them in her mouth she is 18months old and has caught over a dozen rabbits in hedgerows plus a few rats and miscellaneous (including a fight with a muntjac that tried to stay put ) and several foxes that have fled before her loud voice and sharp teeth. my teckel x accompanies me rough shooting , ferreting and bushing and is a very handy animal being a hound but a moderately controllable one, she does on occasions deaf me out (like a hound would) but pays attention when needed when ferreting etc...her concentration is unbeleivable pics of her are on my website here http://www.freewebs.com/ferretingandy/mydogs.htm doesn't the warrener have beagle,terrier, and spaniel mixed rabbit hounds? Quote Link to post
COMPO 54 Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 (edited) found this old thread i started on m oochers, for those interested moocher/forums/inde...&hl=bushing cant work the link myself Edited June 27, 2007 by COMPO Quote Link to post
grubbavitch 0 Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 A bloke in New Zealand with a rabbiting pack of all sorts of dogs reckons some of his best bushing dogs are beagle x smooth fox terrier - the fox terrier gives the hardness, the beagle the great nose. Quote Link to post
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