English Bull Terriers

[gnasher16 30,118]

do you lads think you can take a show type ebt and keep it in lean condition or is it not to be done ??????

 

In my opinion ANY dog can be put into lean healthy day to day condition.......but i dont think you could get a showbred ebt into peak condition the way you would put a bulldog through a keep.....i just dont think they have the physical or mental ability ......a dog bred with the aim of prancing round a showring will have had athletic physical qualities sacrificed for " a look "......not just a silly shaped head and dense bones etc......but also the things you cant see with the eye elastcity/flexibility of joints/ligaments,tendon strength etc etc......right down to inherent lung power.....the dogs just wont be natural born athletes if bred through the generations for the showring.........plus the longer you breed for show the mental toughness and determination a performance bred dog inherits is gradually lost meaning not only does he not have the tools to be peaked he doesnt have the desire either.......im sure you could get one in shape thats easy on the eye and a lean fit look....but not in ( for want of a better phrase ) true " match shape "

[neilsherlock 226]

do you lads think you can take a show type ebt and keep it in lean condition or is it not to be done ??????

 

In my opinion ANY dog can be put into lean healthy day to day condition.......but i dont think you could get a showbred ebt into peak condition the way you would put a bulldog through a keep.....i just dont think they have the physical or mental ability ......a dog bred with the aim of prancing round a showring will have had athletic physical qualities sacrificed for " a look "......not just a silly shaped head and dense bones etc......but also the things you cant see with the eye elastcity/flexibility of joints/ligaments,tendon strength etc etc......right down to inherent lung power.....the dogs just wont be natural born athletes if bred through the generations for the showring.........plus the longer you breed for show the mental toughness and determination a performance bred dog inherits is gradually lost meaning not only does he not have the tools to be peaked he doesnt have the desire either.......im sure you could get one in shape thats easy on the eye and a lean fit look....but not in ( for want of a better phrase ) true " match shape "

 

The bitch i had was purely pet /show bred and as much as i want to agree with you i can tell you thats simply not true all of the time. i cant prove it too you but 100% i will hand on heart say 'good dogs are were you find em!'

Edited November 17, 2012 by neilsherlock

[J.DOG 1,355]

Cheers for that gnasher

[gnasher16 30,118]

The bitch i had was purely pet /show bred and as much as i want to agree with you i can tell you thats simply not true all of the time. i cant prove it too you but 100% i will hand on heart say 'good dogs are were you find em!'

 

I totally agree good dogs are where you find them.....but getting the absolute best from a good dog sometimes just isnt possible.......documented evidence indicates that ebt,s have simply never made the grade in the highest levels of conditioned performance in competition......thats proof enough for me

[Lusitano 294]

JAWN - some more pictures of your dog would be brilliant...

[mushroom 12,921]

J dog those pink growths look like something my ex's mini EBT used to have if they are the same and grow big you can tie horsehair around the base tight and they drop off but the hair doesn't grow back

 

ps don't right ya lad off as old yet, Mini lived until just shy of 17 years was blind and deaf yet was still fookin rats up a few months before she died

Edited November 18, 2012 by mushroom

[J.DOG 1,355]

J dog those pink growths look like something my ex's mini EBT used to have if they are the same and grow big you can tie horsehair around the base tight and they drop off but the hair doesn't grow back

 

ps don't right ya lad off as old yet, Mini lived until just shy of 17 years was blind and deaf yet was still fookin rats up a few months before she died

 

Cheers for The advice bud , yep he's still got many years left he's enjoying the easy life now , chilling all day lol left the graft behind him now and enjoying his retirement , great dog

 

Thanks atb JD

[welsh earth dog 12]

Nice lookin bulls fair play nice to c lean English bulls with drive, bout time someone dragged them out of the gutter, the kennel club has alot to answer for

[BIG G wheton machine 1,594]

some nice dogs on this thread

[BIG G wheton machine 1,594]

 

I look at it like this, you get on a plane and sitting across from you are two Arab looking gents nervous and sweating. Whats the first thought that comes to mind? Here's another for ya WBT, Your in Atalanta on Marietta st. and in front of you walking your way you see 3 dark gents.Whats the first thing that comes to mind? So when I read this thread "English Bull Terriers" on a working terrier forum because I'm pretty sure that's what its says up top, I'm very interested. But instead I read, vet tec ,conformation this, confirmation nightmare, pitbulls, pattedales, looking for a greyhound to start a lurrcher line, reciting peds back and forth , honest bull dogs that looked like they came from a pet shop,no pics then canned hunting pics I'm sorry but the first thing that comes to my mind is, no kids, wears pants with elastic waist bands and sneakers that Velcro and 24-40lbs overweight. I'm sorry but that's just what happens . I've been in terriers for a long time here in the states In that time I can count on one hand the times I've hunted with women that where 1/2 serious about hunting terriers/dogs ,most were like the description above and there dogs some of them really good were their replacement kids for lack of none or they got older moved out. Now read the next part twice so you get it-I'm not saying this is YOU, its just YOUR first impression you made. Don't get me wrong the men here aren't much better.... most of them don't even own locator systems for there terriers. Now some are going to take this as I'm racist or male chauvinist, I'm not Uphill Doc is. But your on the WWW in a site called "the Hunting Life" in a sub form "Earth dogs" and your sig at the bottom of every post you make is "Home of the Working Bull and Terrier". I was just seeing red flags popping up and asked you a few questions to find out whats,what that's all. You made the posts here and if you get ass hurt from a few simple questions well I'm sorry and I'll recommend the AKC board.Jawn I think I remember you the the" Hunting Terrier board" and I don't remember you doing much hunting, so I went through your content here. 168 post in and not one thread I could find you started, that had to do with you hunting your dogs, ya I found someone else lion pic, and your dog with a bunny, but nothing with your Eastern European bred dogs doing any heavy lifting. Just saying.So guess what now?Happy Halloween everybody,Stunt.

This by far was one of the most entertaining off topic posts in this thread. First of all, yes, I am a woman, and I am VERY serious about my dogs. I am a family woman, I do have kids as a matter of fact! And all of them are under 18, lol. 8-O I'm actually in my 30's. Hate drawstring pants......blue jeans and camo here, every day LOL. Yep, I was a tech for a good while. So? Make sense I'd have a profession where I get to work with animals every day, when dogs are a big part of my life, ASIDE form my kids, lol. No fur mommy here buddy.I do not group my dogs in the same classification as my children. Oh, not overweight either.....(not sure wtf that has to do with anything either, lol). If you're hanging on the 'your dogs don't look scarred up' notion still, you must not have actually READ and comprehended ALL of my prior posts. Sounds like you were skimming for key words. Man, you being from the states, surely you are aware of BSL?? If not, better get educated. I own bulldogs as well as the small terriers.....why in the HELL would I throw up pics of scarred up dogs on the net?? Anyway, this thread was really enjoyable, discussing the breed and such, but it's sure gone to crap now. Oh, and once again, read this well: I am in NO way shape or form "butt hurt" or whatever you'd like to call it just because a couple folks on the net that I'll likely never even meet, who don't know me from Adam, have a few uneducated ill words. Your "first impression" couldn't have been farther from accurate sir.

think you just handed him his ass on a plate there lol.

[jesepi 7]

nice looking dogs the english bulls

[mart 131]

a lot of the bulls i´ve seen have a very narrow lower jaw, so narrow that the bottom canines are on the inside of the upper teeth. My own mini bull have a straighter profile than most and a better bite/wider jaw. Do any of you find that a straighter profile gives a better bite/better jaw or is it coincidental?

[kerryb 101]

Few of my ebt , surprising drive in him but thick and stubborn , he's playing with my bitch in the photo btw

[brad88 133]

My dog sid

[brad88 133]