English Bull Terriers

[The drover 348]

14 hours ago, Traditionalhunter said:

‘Legahory Lad’ another English bull x staff, from Dundalk 1980. 

Thanks for sharing buddy . Some hardy looking old mutts

[jigsaw 11,875]

The strange thing was, even though the E/B weren't as good as their staffy cousins, when diluted in to terriers and other forms of strong dog, they produced hard driven workers most of the time, 

[Greb147 6,809]

1 hour ago, jigsaw said:

The strange thing was, even though the E/B weren't as good as their staffy cousins, when diluted in to terriers and other forms of strong dog, they produced hard driven workers most of the time, 

Was that a case of them turning out decent despite using Bull Terrier though or because of it? 

[Aussie Whip 4,131]

1 hour ago, Greb147 said:

Was that a case of them turning out decent despite using Bull Terrier though or because of it? 

That's an interesting point but proof is in the pudding here with English bulls being superior as crosses with staghounds for pigs compared to staff or pit crosses.

[jigsaw 11,875]

1 hour ago, Greb147 said:

Was that a case of them turning out decent despite using Bull Terrier though or because of it? 

It deffo added to the x, it was an immensely popular x for years, long before any black dogs turned up here, and still a few being created to this day

[Greb147 6,809]

40 minutes ago, Aussie Whip said:

That's an interesting point but proof is in the pudding here with English bulls being superior as crosses with staghounds for pigs compared to staff or pit crosses.

In what way are they better than Pit or Staff crosses? 

Maybe it's just a case of there being more established lines with heavy Bull Terrier influence? 

[Aussie Whip 4,131]

11 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

In what way are they better than Pit or Staff crosses? 

Maybe it's just a case of there being more established lines with heavy Bull Terrier influence? 

My mrs was a professional pig catcher(she caught me) and ran a chiller here.English bulls crossed with almost any breed worked the pigs by lugging,not damaging meat and not trying to fight boars as pits do which could be fatal.The bull cross stags can even be first crosses or line bred but still have the no nonsense ear lugging qualities.Staff crosses are ok but not as good and a little on the small side for this.

[eastcoast 4,181]

6 minutes ago, Aussie Whip said:

My mrs was a professional pig catcher(she caught me) and ran a chiller here.English bulls crossed with almost any breed worked the pigs by lugging,not damaging meat and not trying to fight boars as pits do which could be fatal.The bull cross stags can even be first crosses or line bred but still have the no nonsense ear lugging qualities.Staff crosses are ok but not as good and a little on the small side for this.

" she caught me "

[Aussie Whip 4,131]

2 minutes ago, eastcoast said:

" she caught me "

That's what she says but I don't argue, she's a big girl from Birmingham over your side of the pond,lol.

[Carlovian 592]

3 hours ago, jigsaw said:

The strange thing was, even though the E/B weren't as good as their staffy cousins, when diluted in to terriers and other forms of strong dog, they produced hard driven workers most of the time, 

back in the day at trials, for every good Bull Terrier or bull terrier mix , there was 20 good or better SBTs,, the majority of good dogs at trials was either Wheatens or SBTs, Bull terriers ware a rarity

[Traditionalhunter 93]

On 06/09/2020 at 18:19, mushroom said:

I'd have that top one anyday. Would love to dive in with him on a boar.

Here’s another of ‘Tinker’ 

[General lee 979]

1 hour ago, Carlovian said:

back in the day at trials, for every good Bull Terrier or bull terrier mix , there was 20 good or better SBTs,, the majority of good dogs at trials was either Wheatens or SBTs, Bull terriers ware a rarity

I think that’s a different ball game to be honest mate nothing against the trials but six minutes at a badger and finding catching and holding a 100 kilo pig 3 times in a row is not the same

[Greb147 6,809]

1 hour ago, W. Katchum said:

Do you think the trials were harder than pig hunting?   Or vice versa. I know nowt of either but find it interesting that dogs failed regular at trials but then the same breed makes awsome pig dogs, would love to know how a dog thought

I think you will find more dogs that will tackle a boar than you would that would meet a badger face to face. 

[General lee 979]

1 hour ago, W. Katchum said:

Do you think the trials were harder than pig hunting?   Or vice versa. I know nowt of either but find it interesting that dogs failed regular at trials but then the same breed makes awsome pig dogs, would love to know how a dog thought

I don’t know what would be harder for the dog as I haven’t been to the trials my point was it’s different also I’m pretty sure the EBT of today is of a better standard than most I’ve seen at the trials

[Carlovian 592]

well .all I was saying the bull terriers in general ware not good enough ( game enough )  for trials ,, Iam sure size comes into it with Boar hunting , I doubt Bull terriers are any better than Dogos , American Bulldogs , or Pit bulls or bull lurchers at boar hunting , never seen any post a video of one on one, its usually 3-4 dogs on the boar