Is it possible ...

[Ideation 8,216]

The thing is, folk do silly x's, like some kind of stupid breed (great dane, yorkie, whatever) and they do a first x, with a whippet or a grey. Then, the odd pup works, had prey drive, can run a bit etc, and they think that the great dane or yorkie, or poodle or fecking whatever, has potential to be the bees knees.

 

What they forget is that any sort of usefulness in the dog comes from the whippet or greyhound blood.

 

A good greyhound, would be a fecking fantastic dog, if it wasnt so fast and frail that it had no stamina and broke easily (i mean skin, feet etc).

 

Way back, all the runners were greys.

 

So its hardley surprising that with half greyhound in it, the litter (of whatever monstrosity) will throw a couple of half decent dogs.

[stewie 3,387]

Sorry, but what exactly would you hunt with a Great Dane?.....what would it bring to any mix?

They are the most sorry arsed bits of shite on 4 legs......if we are going to discuss something at least lets try and be serious !! Lol lol

What next, st Bernard's ? Lol lol

X British bulldog to make a bull cross??

[WILF 48,224]

Not with there very well documented physical defects

[stewie 3,387]

Not with there very well documented physical defects

Lol

[WILF 48,224]

In all seriousness, 150 years ago you may have entertained the idea......Stabs has some excellent pictures of bull breeds of old and sadly today's dogs bare no resembelence to those old dogs

[Ausnick 190]

Probably, but its more of a lottery i would say.

 

Look at the australians!

 

What are you trying to say? The pigdogs are nothing at all like the running dogs, the running dogs we use are very similar to what you have over there but we need dogs with better feet and better heat tolerance. People use Dane X mastiffs and such for their endurance, heat tolerance and holding power. A fair few pig hunters over here do it for a living and I have to say I don't see many running dogs having the holding power and nose to consistently find big pigs off the ute (with their nose) and hold them for the usual long period it takes for the hunter to get to the pig and dispatch it. The majority of running dogs over here have either greyhound, deerhound, whippet or bull in them so I don't see how that's much different to what you use over there? The pigging scene is a completely different ball game.

[Ideation 8,216]

Probably, but its more of a lottery i would say.

 

Look at the australians!

 

What are you trying to say? The pigdogs are nothing at all like the running dogs, the running dogs we use are very similar to what you have over there but we need dogs with better feet and better heat tolerance. People use Dane X mastiffs and such for their endurance, heat tolerance and holding power. A fair few pig hunters over here do it for a living and I have to say I don't see many running dogs having the holding power and nose to consistently find big pigs off the ute (with their nose) and hold them for the usual long period it takes for the hunter to get to the pig and dispatch it. The majority of running dogs over here have either greyhound, deerhound, whippet or bull in them so I don't see how that's much different to what you use over there? The pigging scene is a completely different ball game.

 

Mate, it was in no way a dig! I meant, whilst it might seem crazy to us, in both Australia (and to a lesser extrent the states) hunters often use breeds or mixes of breeds that would never be seen over here, and they seem to work very well!

 

I understand that pig dogs are a different thing - but its still a hunting dog.

 

But i HAVE seen on here, running dogs that have had blood of stuff like sharpies (i think) and a couple of other odd things, like wolfhound.

 

Not a dig, just interesting!

[PoshPikey 560]

i have a teckel that works to ground very effectively. Imported bloodlines though.

[Ausnick 190]

Probably, but its more of a lottery i would say.

 

Look at the australians!

 

What are you trying to say? The pigdogs are nothing at all like the running dogs, the running dogs we use are very similar to what you have over there but we need dogs with better feet and better heat tolerance. People use Dane X mastiffs and such for their endurance, heat tolerance and holding power. A fair few pig hunters over here do it for a living and I have to say I don't see many running dogs having the holding power and nose to consistently find big pigs off the ute (with their nose) and hold them for the usual long period it takes for the hunter to get to the pig and dispatch it. The majority of running dogs over here have either greyhound, deerhound, whippet or bull in them so I don't see how that's much different to what you use over there? The pigging scene is a completely different ball game.

 

Mate, it was in no way a dig! I meant, whilst it might seem crazy to us, in both Australia (and to a lesser extrent the states) hunters often use breeds or mixes of breeds that would never be seen over here, and they seem to work very well!

 

I understand that pig dogs are a different thing - but its still a hunting dog.

 

But i HAVE seen on here, running dogs that have had blood of stuff like sharpies (i think) and a couple of other odd things, like wolfhound.

 

Not a dig, just interesting!

 

Sorry mate didn't take it as you were having a dig just didn't see how our dogs were very different to yours. I'll message you explaining something about the wolfhound

[paulsmithy83 567]

Like years ago the dashund was the dog for digging and now I don't hear of anyone using it as a working dog at all. A guy around by me had a pharaoh hound an said he was a great hunting dog but looking at the price of that breed these days I wouldn't take the gamble.

 

Daschund means badger dog, in german. Thats what they were bred for originally, they are still widely used for both earth work and above ground hunting (mainly tracking wounded game or driving boar etc to guns), but now are mainly reffered to as 'Teckles'. There are shit loads in europe and quite a few here, i have a dog with some in its make up.

 

R.E Pharoh hounds - when folk tell me that dogs like that were 'great hunters', it usually means, "for a pet dog that i expected to do f**k all, its a great hunter", against a purpose bred dog, they usually look shite!

 

I know a lad that has kept teckels so he would be more educated than me on them, but IMHO I would think they would be useless for any sort of serious below ground work to anything like some sort of " standard".......

 

As has been said, the Aussy and yank lads are using some interesting crosses in there stags and pig hounds and are showing them some serious graft so you can never say never to anything.......but there are obviously some breeds you just would not use

In states they got quarry thst makes ours look pathetic if a x can take the graft out there It should be good enuf for anywhere. With coyotes,pigs,real hares various deer and so on most states make fens look small and the ground is far worste then we got. People look to far into breeds n let it take ova. It traits u should be looking for not what it called.