Union leaders are they really that stupid ??

[bigdaz 688]

Let me start by saying I'm not brain washed into anything, I have been in the world long enough to know what's what and I believe what's in front of my eyes.

 

Lets start with your NHS comment, yes I think it should be privatised, the standards would be better no doubt about it.

If you have ever had private treatment which I am sure you have, then you will know that it is a country mile above what your getting served up in the local hospitals........they won't stand for second best from ANY staff in a place like the Harley street clinic and that's the way it should be in all hospitals IMHO, your either a professional or your not, there should not and can not be any in between when your dealing with people's lives.

 

There are some brilliant people working in our NHS who I am sure would want a less shoddy service with less managers, more folk who care about the job they are doing and the standard they are doing it too.

 

The docks died because the unions made it too expensive to land cargo, end of story.....it was cheaper to go to Rotterdam and drive it across!

 

They are demanding money in the public sector that their members don't create and isn't there to give them anyway......no, they are happy to put all of us in the real economy that actually create some money in debt upto our eyeballs as long as their members don't suffer......sorry mate, I don't f*****g think so.

 

As for the communist connections, that's well documented and you know it.....from the strikes at Langley to Scargill to Bob Crowe....all dirty reds to a man

 

As for your Tax the rich link, it is absolutely disgusting that because a bloke has done well for himself people think they can rock up and steal his money to pay for some other f****r.......what the f**k gives you the right to help yourself to other people's money......give me one good reason why a multi millionaire should pay a percentage point more in tax than a floor cleaner ? They both work, they both earn money, so why?

 

Privatise the NHS, well bits have already been privatised and look what has happend, so much for standards improving. What about the folk who can't afford to go private?...maybe you would prefer a system like the USA where if you can't pay you don't get treatment. What is disgusting is that someone with a 20 room mansion can pay the same in council tax as someone is in a 2-3 bedroomed council flat. Or Multi millionaires who don't pay tax at all. If your all for equality why is some dickhead of a politician or banker allowed to earn more than a soldier, nurse or fireman for that matter?

 

You ask what gives someone the right to help themselves to other folks money....well sucessive governments have been doing that for years and it's the ordinary working man who bears the brunt of it while the rich get richer. Ironic don't you think that the regeneration of the docklands only benefitted the wealthy while whole communities were destroyed

 

Unions didn't always get it right but workers have a far better standard of living than they would have done if they didn't exist. As for Scargil, love him or hate him he was proved right in the end.

Council Tax is pays for the local council collecting rubbish, police, road maintenance, leisure centre's, etc etc, why should such a tax be dependant on the size of house ? anyone who has bought such a property has already paid heavy tax on buying it, one person in mansion does not cost the council any more to service them. Why should an elderly lady for example living in a four bed house because all her family has died pay more then four people living in a two bed house ?

 

Correct, this you've got a big house therefore you must be loaded pish is wearing a tad thin now.

There are people on benefits who will have more disposable income than many people with large houses and mortgages, many who receive no help.

You can't eat a house, before anyone says sell, for many reasons that is not always an option.

[WILF 46,690]

Let me start by saying I'm not brain washed into anything, I have been in the world long enough to know what's what and I believe what's in front of my eyes.

 

Lets start with your NHS comment, yes I think it should be privatised, the standards would be better no doubt about it.

If you have ever had private treatment which I am sure you have, then you will know that it is a country mile above what your getting served up in the local hospitals........they won't stand for second best from ANY staff in a place like the Harley street clinic and that's the way it should be in all hospitals IMHO, your either a professional or your not, there should not and can not be any in between when your dealing with people's lives.

 

There are some brilliant people working in our NHS who I am sure would want a less shoddy service with less managers, more folk who care about the job they are doing and the standard they are doing it too.

 

The docks died because the unions made it too expensive to land cargo, end of story.....it was cheaper to go to Rotterdam and drive it across!

 

They are demanding money in the public sector that their members don't create and isn't there to give them anyway......no, they are happy to put all of us in the real economy that actually create some money in debt upto our eyeballs as long as their members don't suffer......sorry mate, I don't f*****g think so.

 

As for the communist connections, that's well documented and you know it.....from the strikes at Langley to Scargill to Bob Crowe....all dirty reds to a man

 

As for your Tax the rich link, it is absolutely disgusting that because a bloke has done well for himself people think they can rock up and steal his money to pay for some other f****r.......what the f**k gives you the right to help yourself to other people's money......give me one good reason why a multi millionaire should pay a percentage point more in tax than a floor cleaner ? They both work, they both earn money, so why?

 

Privatise the NHS, well bits have already been privatised and look what has happend, so much for standards improving. What about the folk who can't afford to go private?...maybe you would prefer a system like the USA where if you can't pay you don't get treatment. What is disgusting is that someone with a 20 room mansion can pay the same in council tax as someone is in a 2-3 bedroomed council flat. Or Multi millionaires who don't pay tax at all. If your all for equality why is some dickhead of a politician or banker allowed to earn more than a soldier, nurse or fireman for that matter?

 

You ask what gives someone the right to help themselves to other folks money....well sucessive governments have been doing that for years and it's the ordinary working man who bears the brunt of it while the rich get richer. Ironic don't you think that the regeneration of the docklands only benefitted the wealthy while whole communities were destroyed

 

Unions didn't always get it right but workers have a far better standard of living than they would have done if they didn't exist. As for Scargil, love him or hate him he was proved right in the end.

 

Privatisation would stop all the drains on the resources, if you had to pay to see your doctor you wouldn't have half these fannies cluttering up the surgery for every minor sniff, ache, pain, bumped toe or just to get a f*****g sick note for " stress".......and that's just for starters. All they do at the GP is prescribe, prescribe, prescribe to get you out the door and on to the next person cause there's so many in there.......it just postpones the problem instead of dealing with things from the get go and saving a shit load of money in the first place.

 

There's more than enough wedge sloshing round in this country to help family's who are genuinely having a hard time if you cut out all the free loading fuckers who want a bit of the pie and think the country owes them it!!

 

Different jobs pay different rates, if you want to be a top earner in a bank then get yourself to school, get an education and go and be one if it makes you happy......if you want to be a fireman or a nurse then go and be that but you know what it's pays before you do it so don't moan......same as all this " everyone should go to university" bollocks, no they shouldn't , you should only be allowed to go if your clever enough or it's just a waste of everyone's time and money......again, work hard at school and you will get there.

 

 

Hard work in order to achieve your goals, it's the way it should be......not some f****r coming and giving you a hand out be that a university place or wages or what ever.

 

The top rate of tax is around 50 k, there's lads out on the road diesel fitting or working long shifts in factory's or out in the North Sea that are on that so what gives anyone the right to help themselves to those lads money......not exactly the silver spoon set are they!

Grafting their bollocks off so jealous people can nick their hard earned.....that's the reality, not all this propaganda about " toffs"

 

Tax, spend, redistribute.......f*****g thieves all you lefty fuckers, the lot of you!

 

Left wing politicians always talk about taxing " the rich" so they can win a few votes from all you petty little haters who think the country owes you a living.

Try standing on your own two feet and maybe the country will improve a little ya clowns!

 

[jessdale 416]

The politics of jealousy is a terrible thing in my eyes

[WILF 46,690]

The politics of jealousy is a terrible thing in my eyes

 

Mate, I hate that Tony Blair with a passion but I have to say I respect the little f****r, for 13 years he played a blinder.

 

He knew just what to give everyone in this country so that he could ride rough shod over our freedoms, all the house owners houses were worth more and credit was easy so they didn't want to rock the boat, all the public sector jobs he created so they didn't want to rock the boat, the unions had a labour government and an amount of say so they didn't want to rock the boat.....I take my hat off to him, the blokes about as clever as they come.

 

What folk forget is that every time you ask the state to do something or provide something you are paying with your liberty, same as unions, it pays them to just let lads have " just enough".......if you let folk do well and keep their own money then unions would be redundant.

 

Tax and the more things it provides is slavery.......

Edited October 22, 2012 by WILF

[miller 18]

Let me start by saying I'm not brain washed into anything, I have been in the world long enough to know what's what and I believe what's in front of my eyes.

 

Lets start with your NHS comment, yes I think it should be privatised, the standards would be better no doubt about it.

If you have ever had private treatment which I am sure you have, then you will know that it is a country mile above what your getting served up in the local hospitals........they won't stand for second best from ANY staff in a place like the Harley street clinic and that's the way it should be in all hospitals IMHO, your either a professional or your not, there should not and can not be any in between when your dealing with people's lives.

 

There are some brilliant people working in our NHS who I am sure would want a less shoddy service with less managers, more folk who care about the job they are doing and the standard they are doing it too.

 

The docks died because the unions made it too expensive to land cargo, end of story.....it was cheaper to go to Rotterdam and drive it across!

 

They are demanding money in the public sector that their members don't create and isn't there to give them anyway......no, they are happy to put all of us in the real economy that actually create some money in debt upto our eyeballs as long as their members don't suffer......sorry mate, I don't f*****g think so.

 

As for the communist connections, that's well documented and you know it.....from the strikes at Langley to Scargill to Bob Crowe....all dirty reds to a man

 

As for your Tax the rich link, it is absolutely disgusting that because a bloke has done well for himself people think they can rock up and steal his money to pay for some other f****r.......what the f**k gives you the right to help yourself to other people's money......give me one good reason why a multi millionaire should pay a percentage point more in tax than a floor cleaner ? They both work, they both earn money, so why?

 

Privatise the NHS, well bits have already been privatised and look what has happend, so much for standards improving. What about the folk who can't afford to go private?...maybe you would prefer a system like the USA where if you can't pay you don't get treatment. What is disgusting is that someone with a 20 room mansion can pay the same in council tax as someone is in a 2-3 bedroomed council flat. Or Multi millionaires who don't pay tax at all. If your all for equality why is some dickhead of a politician or banker allowed to earn more than a soldier, nurse or fireman for that matter?

 

You ask what gives someone the right to help themselves to other folks money....well sucessive governments have been doing that for years and it's the ordinary working man who bears the brunt of it while the rich get richer. Ironic don't you think that the regeneration of the docklands only benefitted the wealthy while whole communities were destroyed

 

Unions didn't always get it right but workers have a far better standard of living than they would have done if they didn't exist. As for Scargil, love him or hate him he was proved right in the end.

 

Privatisation would stop all the drains on the resources, if you had to pay to see your doctor you wouldn't have half these fannies cluttering up the surgery for every minor sniff, ache, pain, bumped toe or just to get a f*****g sick note for " stress".......and that's just for starters. All they do at the GP is prescribe, prescribe, prescribe to get you out the door and on to the next person cause there's so many in there.......it just postpones the problem instead of dealing with things from the get go and saving a shit load of money in the first place.

 

There's more than enough wedge sloshing round in this country to help family's who are genuinely having a hard time if you cut out all the free loading fuckers who want a bit of the pie and think the country owes them it!!

 

Different jobs pay different rates, if you want to be a top earner in a bank then get yourself to school, get an education and go and be one if it makes you happy......if you want to be a fireman or a nurse then go and be that but you know what it's pays before you do it so don't moan......same as all this " everyone should go to university" bollocks, no they shouldn't , you should only be allowed to go if your clever enough or it's just a waste of everyone's time and money......again, work hard at school and you will get there.

 

 

Hard work in order to achieve your goals, it's the way it should be......not some f****r coming and giving you a hand out be that a university place or wages or what ever.

 

The top rate of tax is around 50 k, there's lads out on the road diesel fitting or working long shifts in factory's or out in the North Sea that are on that so what gives anyone the right to help themselves to those lads money......not exactly the silver spoon set are they!

Grafting their bollocks off so jealous people can nick their hard earned.....that's the reality, not all this propaganda about " toffs"

 

Tax, spend, redistribute.......f*****g thieves all you lefty fuckers, the lot of you!

 

Left wing politicians always talk about taxing " the rich" so they can win a few votes from all you petty little haters who think the country owes you a living.

Try standing on your own two feet and maybe the country will improve a little ya clowns!

:thumbs: Totally agree! Well said that man

[undisputed 1,664]

Let me start by saying I'm not brain washed into anything, I have been in the world long enough to know what's what and I believe what's in front of my eyes.

 

Lets start with your NHS comment, yes I think it should be privatised, the standards would be better no doubt about it.

If you have ever had private treatment which I am sure you have, then you will know that it is a country mile above what your getting served up in the local hospitals........they won't stand for second best from ANY staff in a place like the Harley street clinic and that's the way it should be in all hospitals IMHO, your either a professional or your not, there should not and can not be any in between when your dealing with people's lives.

 

There are some brilliant people working in our NHS who I am sure would want a less shoddy service with less managers, more folk who care about the job they are doing and the standard they are doing it too.

 

The docks died because the unions made it too expensive to land cargo, end of story.....it was cheaper to go to Rotterdam and drive it across!

 

They are demanding money in the public sector that their members don't create and isn't there to give them anyway......no, they are happy to put all of us in the real economy that actually create some money in debt upto our eyeballs as long as their members don't suffer......sorry mate, I don't f*****g think so.

 

As for the communist connections, that's well documented and you know it.....from the strikes at Langley to Scargill to Bob Crowe....all dirty reds to a man

 

As for your Tax the rich link, it is absolutely disgusting that because a bloke has done well for himself people think they can rock up and steal his money to pay for some other f****r.......what the f**k gives you the right to help yourself to other people's money......give me one good reason why a multi millionaire should pay a percentage point more in tax than a floor cleaner ? They both work, they both earn money, so why?

 

Privatise the NHS, well bits have already been privatised and look what has happend, so much for standards improving. What about the folk who can't afford to go private?...maybe you would prefer a system like the USA where if you can't pay you don't get treatment. What is disgusting is that someone with a 20 room mansion can pay the same in council tax as someone is in a 2-3 bedroomed council flat. Or Multi millionaires who don't pay tax at all. If your all for equality why is some dickhead of a politician or banker allowed to earn more than a soldier, nurse or fireman for that matter?

 

You ask what gives someone the right to help themselves to other folks money....well sucessive governments have been doing that for years and it's the ordinary working man who bears the brunt of it while the rich get richer. Ironic don't you think that the regeneration of the docklands only benefitted the wealthy while whole communities were destroyed

 

Unions didn't always get it right but workers have a far better standard of living than they would have done if they didn't exist. As for Scargil, love him or hate him he was proved right in the end.

 

Privatisation would stop all the drains on the resources, if you had to pay to see your doctor you wouldn't have half these fannies cluttering up the surgery for every minor sniff, ache, pain, bumped toe or just to get a f*****g sick note for " stress".......and that's just for starters. All they do at the GP is prescribe, prescribe, prescribe to get you out the door and on to the next person cause there's so many in there.......it just postpones the problem instead of dealing with things from the get go and saving a shit load of money in the first place.

 

There's more than enough wedge sloshing round in this country to help family's who are genuinely having a hard time if you cut out all the free loading fuckers who want a bit of the pie and think the country owes them it!!

 

Different jobs pay different rates, if you want to be a top earner in a bank then get yourself to school, get an education and go and be one if it makes you happy......if you want to be a fireman or a nurse then go and be that but you know what it's pays before you do it so don't moan......same as all this " everyone should go to university" bollocks, no they shouldn't , you should only be allowed to go if your clever enough or it's just a waste of everyone's time and money......again, work hard at school and you will get there.

 

 

Hard work in order to achieve your goals, it's the way it should be......not some f****r coming and giving you a hand out be that a university place or wages or what ever.

 

The top rate of tax is around 50 k, there's lads out on the road diesel fitting or working long shifts in factory's or out in the North Sea that are on that so what gives anyone the right to help themselves to those lads money......not exactly the silver spoon set are they!

Grafting their bollocks off so jealous people can nick their hard earned.....that's the reality, not all this propaganda about " toffs"

 

Tax, spend, redistribute.......f*****g thieves all you lefty fuckers, the lot of you!

 

Left wing politicians always talk about taxing " the rich" so they can win a few votes from all you petty little haters who think the country owes you a living.

Try standing on your own two feet and maybe the country will improve a little ya clowns!

 

Just as right wing politicians advocate "every man for themselves" £50k working in a factory? I'm definately in the wrong profession...nobody's advocating nicking money of anyone and certainly not me and what the f**k has jealousy got to do with it? Tax! the tory's have added more stealth taxes than any other government....tax on food, clothes, petrol,...they would tax the air you breathe if they could. A hard work ethic is good but no f*****g use if there are not enough jobs to go around. Your wee rant is typical of a "Thatcherite" maybe we should round up all the unemployed, the sick, single parents and the uneducated and fire up the ovens that would get the economy and get the country running again.

 

And it's a bit hypocritical someone who only works half the year lecturing others on hard work...but that's just my jealousy coming out.

 

Maybe if the government did it's job properly and taxed the multi-national companies we wouldn't be in the shit we're in.

[scothunter 12,609]

f**k all wrong with a bit purging lol

[jessdale 416]

Let me start by saying I'm not brain washed into anything, I have been in the world long enough to know what's what and I believe what's in front of my eyes.

 

Lets start with your NHS comment, yes I think it should be privatised, the standards would be better no doubt about it.

If you have ever had private treatment which I am sure you have, then you will know that it is a country mile above what your getting served up in the local hospitals........they won't stand for second best from ANY staff in a place like the Harley street clinic and that's the way it should be in all hospitals IMHO, your either a professional or your not, there should not and can not be any in between when your dealing with people's lives.

 

There are some brilliant people working in our NHS who I am sure would want a less shoddy service with less managers, more folk who care about the job they are doing and the standard they are doing it too.

 

The docks died because the unions made it too expensive to land cargo, end of story.....it was cheaper to go to Rotterdam and drive it across!

 

They are demanding money in the public sector that their members don't create and isn't there to give them anyway......no, they are happy to put all of us in the real economy that actually create some money in debt upto our eyeballs as long as their members don't suffer......sorry mate, I don't f*****g think so.

 

As for the communist connections, that's well documented and you know it.....from the strikes at Langley to Scargill to Bob Crowe....all dirty reds to a man

 

As for your Tax the rich link, it is absolutely disgusting that because a bloke has done well for himself people think they can rock up and steal his money to pay for some other f****r.......what the f**k gives you the right to help yourself to other people's money......give me one good reason why a multi millionaire should pay a percentage point more in tax than a floor cleaner ? They both work, they both earn money, so why?

 

Privatise the NHS, well bits have already been privatised and look what has happend, so much for standards improving. What about the folk who can't afford to go private?...maybe you would prefer a system like the USA where if you can't pay you don't get treatment. What is disgusting is that someone with a 20 room mansion can pay the same in council tax as someone is in a 2-3 bedroomed council flat. Or Multi millionaires who don't pay tax at all. If your all for equality why is some dickhead of a politician or banker allowed to earn more than a soldier, nurse or fireman for that matter?

 

You ask what gives someone the right to help themselves to other folks money....well sucessive governments have been doing that for years and it's the ordinary working man who bears the brunt of it while the rich get richer. Ironic don't you think that the regeneration of the docklands only benefitted the wealthy while whole communities were destroyed

 

Unions didn't always get it right but workers have a far better standard of living than they would have done if they didn't exist. As for Scargil, love him or hate him he was proved right in the end.

 

Privatisation would stop all the drains on the resources, if you had to pay to see your doctor you wouldn't have half these fannies cluttering up the surgery for every minor sniff, ache, pain, bumped toe or just to get a f*****g sick note for " stress".......and that's just for starters. All they do at the GP is prescribe, prescribe, prescribe to get you out the door and on to the next person cause there's so many in there.......it just postpones the problem instead of dealing with things from the get go and saving a shit load of money in the first place.

 

There's more than enough wedge sloshing round in this country to help family's who are genuinely having a hard time if you cut out all the free loading fuckers who want a bit of the pie and think the country owes them it!!

 

Different jobs pay different rates, if you want to be a top earner in a bank then get yourself to school, get an education and go and be one if it makes you happy......if you want to be a fireman or a nurse then go and be that but you know what it's pays before you do it so don't moan......same as all this " everyone should go to university" bollocks, no they shouldn't , you should only be allowed to go if your clever enough or it's just a waste of everyone's time and money......again, work hard at school and you will get there.

 

 

Hard work in order to achieve your goals, it's the way it should be......not some f****r coming and giving you a hand out be that a university place or wages or what ever.

 

The top rate of tax is around 50 k, there's lads out on the road diesel fitting or working long shifts in factory's or out in the North Sea that are on that so what gives anyone the right to help themselves to those lads money......not exactly the silver spoon set are they!

Grafting their bollocks off so jealous people can nick their hard earned.....that's the reality, not all this propaganda about " toffs"

 

Tax, spend, redistribute.......f*****g thieves all you lefty fuckers, the lot of you!

 

Left wing politicians always talk about taxing " the rich" so they can win a few votes from all you petty little haters who think the country owes you a living.

Try standing on your own two feet and maybe the country will improve a little ya clowns!

 

Just as right wing politicians advocate "every man for themselves" £50k working in a factory? I'm definately in the wrong profession...nobody's advocating nicking money of anyone and certainly not me and what the f**k has jealousy got to do with it? Tax! the tory's have added more stealth taxes than any other government....tax on food, clothes, petrol,...they would tax the air you breathe if they could. A hard work ethic is good but no f*****g use if there are not enough jobs to go around. Your wee rant is typical of a "Thatcherite" maybe we should round up all the unemployed, the sick, single parents and the uneducated and fire up the ovens that would get the economy and get the country running again.

 

And it's a bit hypocritical someone who only works half the year lecturing others on hard work...but that's just my jealousy coming out.

 

Maybe if the government did it's job properly and taxed the multi-national companies we wouldn't be in the shit we're in.

A guy that worked on the shop floor where i work got paid just over £51k for the tax year 2010-2011. This is a guy that stated the "pavarottis " were to blame for dianas death and thought each state in the usa had a different president !

[undisputed 1,664]

f**k all wrong with a bit purging lol

 

I hear prunes is good for that

[staffs riffraff 1,068]

Wilf the fat car lol sorry wild couldn't resist lol

[WILF 46,690]

Let me start by saying I'm not brain washed into anything, I have been in the world long enough to know what's what and I believe what's in front of my eyes.

 

Lets start with your NHS comment, yes I think it should be privatised, the standards would be better no doubt about it.

If you have ever had private treatment which I am sure you have, then you will know that it is a country mile above what your getting served up in the local hospitals........they won't stand for second best from ANY staff in a place like the Harley street clinic and that's the way it should be in all hospitals IMHO, your either a professional or your not, there should not and can not be any in between when your dealing with people's lives.

 

There are some brilliant people working in our NHS who I am sure would want a less shoddy service with less managers, more folk who care about the job they are doing and the standard they are doing it too.

 

The docks died because the unions made it too expensive to land cargo, end of story.....it was cheaper to go to Rotterdam and drive it across!

 

They are demanding money in the public sector that their members don't create and isn't there to give them anyway......no, they are happy to put all of us in the real economy that actually create some money in debt upto our eyeballs as long as their members don't suffer......sorry mate, I don't f*****g think so.

 

As for the communist connections, that's well documented and you know it.....from the strikes at Langley to Scargill to Bob Crowe....all dirty reds to a man

 

As for your Tax the rich link, it is absolutely disgusting that because a bloke has done well for himself people think they can rock up and steal his money to pay for some other f****r.......what the f**k gives you the right to help yourself to other people's money......give me one good reason why a multi millionaire should pay a percentage point more in tax than a floor cleaner ? They both work, they both earn money, so why?

 

Privatise the NHS, well bits have already been privatised and look what has happend, so much for standards improving. What about the folk who can't afford to go private?...maybe you would prefer a system like the USA where if you can't pay you don't get treatment. What is disgusting is that someone with a 20 room mansion can pay the same in council tax as someone is in a 2-3 bedroomed council flat. Or Multi millionaires who don't pay tax at all. If your all for equality why is some dickhead of a politician or banker allowed to earn more than a soldier, nurse or fireman for that matter?

 

You ask what gives someone the right to help themselves to other folks money....well sucessive governments have been doing that for years and it's the ordinary working man who bears the brunt of it while the rich get richer. Ironic don't you think that the regeneration of the docklands only benefitted the wealthy while whole communities were destroyed

 

Unions didn't always get it right but workers have a far better standard of living than they would have done if they didn't exist. As for Scargil, love him or hate him he was proved right in the end.

 

Privatisation would stop all the drains on the resources, if you had to pay to see your doctor you wouldn't have half these fannies cluttering up the surgery for every minor sniff, ache, pain, bumped toe or just to get a f*****g sick note for " stress".......and that's just for starters. All they do at the GP is prescribe, prescribe, prescribe to get you out the door and on to the next person cause there's so many in there.......it just postpones the problem instead of dealing with things from the get go and saving a shit load of money in the first place.

 

There's more than enough wedge sloshing round in this country to help family's who are genuinely having a hard time if you cut out all the free loading fuckers who want a bit of the pie and think the country owes them it!!

 

Different jobs pay different rates, if you want to be a top earner in a bank then get yourself to school, get an education and go and be one if it makes you happy......if you want to be a fireman or a nurse then go and be that but you know what it's pays before you do it so don't moan......same as all this " everyone should go to university" bollocks, no they shouldn't , you should only be allowed to go if your clever enough or it's just a waste of everyone's time and money......again, work hard at school and you will get there.

 

 

Hard work in order to achieve your goals, it's the way it should be......not some f****r coming and giving you a hand out be that a university place or wages or what ever.

 

The top rate of tax is around 50 k, there's lads out on the road diesel fitting or working long shifts in factory's or out in the North Sea that are on that so what gives anyone the right to help themselves to those lads money......not exactly the silver spoon set are they!

Grafting their bollocks off so jealous people can nick their hard earned.....that's the reality, not all this propaganda about " toffs"

 

Tax, spend, redistribute.......f*****g thieves all you lefty fuckers, the lot of you!

 

Left wing politicians always talk about taxing " the rich" so they can win a few votes from all you petty little haters who think the country owes you a living.

Try standing on your own two feet and maybe the country will improve a little ya clowns!

 

Just as right wing politicians advocate "every man for themselves" £50k working in a factory? I'm definately in the wrong profession...nobody's advocating nicking money of anyone and certainly not me and what the f**k has jealousy got to do with it? Tax! the tory's have added more stealth taxes than any other government....tax on food, clothes, petrol,...they would tax the air you breathe if they could. A hard work ethic is good but no f*****g use if there are not enough jobs to go around. Your wee rant is typical of a "Thatcherite" maybe we should round up all the unemployed, the sick, single parents and the uneducated and fire up the ovens that would get the economy and get the country running again.

 

And it's a bit hypocritical someone who only works half the year lecturing others on hard work...but that's just my jealousy coming out.

 

Maybe if the government did it's job properly and taxed the multi-national companies we wouldn't be in the shit we're in.

 

I'm not a Tory, I'm a libertarian......as for you being in the wrong job, nah, your probably getting exactly what your worth ! Lol lol lol

 

As for taxing the multi nationals.....maybe they would just leave?

 

I take it that if the people living either side of you are earning less than you, you will be rocking round and making up the shortfall out of your own wages will you?.......no, I didn't think so! Lol lol lol

Edited October 22, 2012 by WILF

[undisputed 1,664]

Let me start by saying I'm not brain washed into anything, I have been in the world long enough to know what's what and I believe what's in front of my eyes.

 

Lets start with your NHS comment, yes I think it should be privatised, the standards would be better no doubt about it.

If you have ever had private treatment which I am sure you have, then you will know that it is a country mile above what your getting served up in the local hospitals........they won't stand for second best from ANY staff in a place like the Harley street clinic and that's the way it should be in all hospitals IMHO, your either a professional or your not, there should not and can not be any in between when your dealing with people's lives.

 

There are some brilliant people working in our NHS who I am sure would want a less shoddy service with less managers, more folk who care about the job they are doing and the standard they are doing it too.

 

The docks died because the unions made it too expensive to land cargo, end of story.....it was cheaper to go to Rotterdam and drive it across!

 

They are demanding money in the public sector that their members don't create and isn't there to give them anyway......no, they are happy to put all of us in the real economy that actually create some money in debt upto our eyeballs as long as their members don't suffer......sorry mate, I don't f*****g think so.

 

As for the communist connections, that's well documented and you know it.....from the strikes at Langley to Scargill to Bob Crowe....all dirty reds to a man

 

As for your Tax the rich link, it is absolutely disgusting that because a bloke has done well for himself people think they can rock up and steal his money to pay for some other f****r.......what the f**k gives you the right to help yourself to other people's money......give me one good reason why a multi millionaire should pay a percentage point more in tax than a floor cleaner ? They both work, they both earn money, so why?

 

Privatise the NHS, well bits have already been privatised and look what has happend, so much for standards improving. What about the folk who can't afford to go private?...maybe you would prefer a system like the USA where if you can't pay you don't get treatment. What is disgusting is that someone with a 20 room mansion can pay the same in council tax as someone is in a 2-3 bedroomed council flat. Or Multi millionaires who don't pay tax at all. If your all for equality why is some dickhead of a politician or banker allowed to earn more than a soldier, nurse or fireman for that matter?

 

You ask what gives someone the right to help themselves to other folks money....well sucessive governments have been doing that for years and it's the ordinary working man who bears the brunt of it while the rich get richer. Ironic don't you think that the regeneration of the docklands only benefitted the wealthy while whole communities were destroyed

 

Unions didn't always get it right but workers have a far better standard of living than they would have done if they didn't exist. As for Scargil, love him or hate him he was proved right in the end.

 

Privatisation would stop all the drains on the resources, if you had to pay to see your doctor you wouldn't have half these fannies cluttering up the surgery for every minor sniff, ache, pain, bumped toe or just to get a f*****g sick note for " stress".......and that's just for starters. All they do at the GP is prescribe, prescribe, prescribe to get you out the door and on to the next person cause there's so many in there.......it just postpones the problem instead of dealing with things from the get go and saving a shit load of money in the first place.

 

There's more than enough wedge sloshing round in this country to help family's who are genuinely having a hard time if you cut out all the free loading fuckers who want a bit of the pie and think the country owes them it!!

 

Different jobs pay different rates, if you want to be a top earner in a bank then get yourself to school, get an education and go and be one if it makes you happy......if you want to be a fireman or a nurse then go and be that but you know what it's pays before you do it so don't moan......same as all this " everyone should go to university" bollocks, no they shouldn't , you should only be allowed to go if your clever enough or it's just a waste of everyone's time and money......again, work hard at school and you will get there.

 

 

Hard work in order to achieve your goals, it's the way it should be......not some f****r coming and giving you a hand out be that a university place or wages or what ever.

 

The top rate of tax is around 50 k, there's lads out on the road diesel fitting or working long shifts in factory's or out in the North Sea that are on that so what gives anyone the right to help themselves to those lads money......not exactly the silver spoon set are they!

Grafting their bollocks off so jealous people can nick their hard earned.....that's the reality, not all this propaganda about " toffs"

 

Tax, spend, redistribute.......f*****g thieves all you lefty fuckers, the lot of you!

 

Left wing politicians always talk about taxing " the rich" so they can win a few votes from all you petty little haters who think the country owes you a living.

Try standing on your own two feet and maybe the country will improve a little ya clowns!

 

Just as right wing politicians advocate "every man for themselves" £50k working in a factory? I'm definately in the wrong profession...nobody's advocating nicking money of anyone and certainly not me and what the f**k has jealousy got to do with it? Tax! the tory's have added more stealth taxes than any other government....tax on food, clothes, petrol,...they would tax the air you breathe if they could. A hard work ethic is good but no f*****g use if there are not enough jobs to go around. Your wee rant is typical of a "Thatcherite" maybe we should round up all the unemployed, the sick, single parents and the uneducated and fire up the ovens that would get the economy and get the country running again.

 

And it's a bit hypocritical someone who only works half the year lecturing others on hard work...but that's just my jealousy coming out.

 

Maybe if the government did it's job properly and taxed the multi-national companies we wouldn't be in the shit we're in.

 

I'm not a Tory, I'm a libertarian......as for you being in the wrong job, nah, your probably getting exactly what your worth ! Lol lol lol

 

As for taxing the multi nationals.....maybe they would just leave?

 

I take it that if the people living either side of you are earning less than you, you will be rocking round and making up the shortfall out of your own wages will you?.......no, I didn't think so! Lol lol lol

 

 

I'm glad you think I'm worth my salary, I think so too...I would help out my neighbours if asked too....unlike yourself who would probably rub it in their noses "loadsamoney" comes to mind and that other Harry Einfield character...the one with the catchphrase "I'm considerably richer than you" was he based on you wilfy .

 

Aye maybe the multi's would up and leave but thats no excuse for the workers to be paying more tax individually than the owners, is it

[WILF 46,690]

Why if you were asked to?, you advocate us all getting told we should don't you?........so which is it?

 

We should be asked or told?.......you said it, not me

[undisputed 1,664]

Why if you were asked to?, you advocate us all getting told we should don't you?........so which is it?

 

We should be asked or told?.......you said it, not me

 

Where did I advocate that wulfy? have you been at the sherry? and I see you have adopted the "royal we" moniker

 

Here this is just for you

 

Edited October 22, 2012 by undisputed

[Guest bezza]

Wilf, check out the character Josiah Bounderby in this link. It's you isn't it? Or you are pretending to be him?

Or else you are bloke just having a laugh pretending to be some angry, vicious far right troll. You'll be posting pictures of Hitler and Thatcher in this thread shortly.

Yes the more I think about it you can't be for real, nobody in this day and age could be as fascist as you are. Well done you had me going for a while. :laugh: :laugh: http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/hardtimes/canalysis.html

 

 

Sorry forgot the link.

Edited October 22, 2012 by bezza